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Assad Blinks?I don't trust him for a minute, but... Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is expected to announce a redeployment of Syrian troops in Lebanon when he addresses his parliament today, say Lebanese politicians. Via Instapundit, who apparently thinks the way to illustrate peaceful pro-freedom revolution is to post a bunch of pictures of comely, flag-waving lasses. Which I find to be outrageously heteronormative. No, wait. That's not the right word. Arousing. That's the word I was looking for. Do We On the Right Have to Make the Left's Arguments For Them?: More -- much, much more -- beyond the jump. But I've been told that people don't like very long pieces, as they like to be able to quickly scan headlines. So I've put the meat of this piece into the extended entry. As the stampede continues -- I gave up documenting it; suffice to say that the amateur leftist webzine Slate and another idiot from the Guardian UK started making "maybe we wuz wrong" noises -- I'm just wondering why the left hasn't made the following argument: Far from vindicating Bush, the Cedar Tree Revolution repudiates him, as it demonstrates that diplomacy and a concerted world effort can force dictators to free populations. The support of the French and the UN, it turns out, is every bit as powerful as a division of American troops, and a much less costly and bloody way to achieve freedom and security. I don't know. They've made practically every other lame argument; what makes this one any dumber? Actually, it's not entirely dumb. Certainly, having the world speak with one voice is a very powerful lever with which to move tyranny. The trouble is, of course, that this option was entirely foreclosed to us with respect to Saddam Hussein; we would have loved to have the Germans, French, Russians and Chinese join us in demanding full and unrestricted inspections in Iraq -- and to stop supporting terrorism -- and to allow open and free elections --- but those countries were in fact largely on Saddam's side. So yes: In fact, where possible, it would be preferable to lead a nearly unanimous world coalition of condemnation and ultimatums in order to rattle tyrants. But it's not always possible. And when it's not possible, the left needs to stop dodging the question and answer: Is it better to act with fewer partners to achieve a good result, or to act along with the entire world to preserve the status quo and leave tyrants unchecked? In my earlier days I did some teaching, and some of that teaching concerned the essay portion of the SAT. And the standard SAT essay question was "Do you support Option A which has these advantages and these drawbacks, or Option B which has different advantages and different drawbacks?" And a lot of students, who just weren't keen on that whole "critical thinking" thing, would answer, basically, "I choose Option C, which has all of the advantages of Options A and B, but none of the drawbacks." Except, you know, the question did not mention an Option C. It mentioned an A and a B. Period. I don't know if the SAT graders thought much of that sort of answer. I know for a fact that I didn't. Because it doesn't take too much critical thinking at all to conjure up some dream-world Option C which has no drawbacks whatsoever and claim that's what you support. Who wouldn't? If you suffer a tragic accident, and a doctor asks you, "Would you like us to amputate your leg and nearly guarantee that you will live, or attempt to preserve your leg with the very high likelihood that you will die in the process?," what human being doesn't have the first impulse of saying, "Actually, I'd like to both keep my leg and have the guarantee of survival." Well, yes; of course. But sadly, sometimes that's not an option on the table. And people do this in politics all the time; and call me a hack, but it seems to be a tactic especially favored by the left. In a radio debate (actually, not much of a debate at all) between Katha Politt and the once-relevant Andrew Sullivan shortly before the invasion of Afghanistan, Sullivan repeatedly asked Politt if she didn't support an invasion and explusion of the Taliban, but also agreed that "something should be done," what, on earth, was she suggesting that "something" be? And she continuously dodged the question. Actually, she kept answering she wanted Option C: the option where there is no invasion or military action (or even sanctions!) and yet the Taliban agrees to not only turn over all Al Qaeda suspects within the areas it controls but also peaceably departs to start a new organizational life as travelling hookah merchants. I don't remember any such "Option C" being readily available in October 2001. And the left continues to choose Option C on Iraq. Given that the French and Russians (and to a lesser extent, the Chinese and Germans) were Saddam's patrons and protectors (and business partners), we had only two options. Option A: defy the wishes of the pro-Saddam coalition of the unwilling; destroy a corrupt and brutal regime, freeing millions, but with limited support, and at the expense of alienating world opinion and bearing most of the costs of war ourselves. Option B: join with the coalition of the unwilling, united in opinion, and speak with a single voice, telling Saddam "You can pretty much keep doing what you're doing and we'll do absolutely nothing at all about it." It's been two years since the process which led us to war in Iraq began, and the left keeps refusing to answer the question. They still want that goddamned Option C, and they're not going to shut up about Option C until the sun flickers and fades and the earth freezes into a gray and lifeless rock. Action Movie Tie-In Update: The funniest and most charismatic young actor alive, Seann William Scott, attempted to choose Option C in the surprisingly well-done The Rundown, and look what it got him. He said, "There's always an Option C," but it turns out he was wrong. The Rock kicked his ass unholy, which was just the Option B he'd offered. So, by refusing to accept Brutal Reality (here embodied by The Rock) and make a choice, and insisting on a dream-world Option C, Seann William Scott had one of the real world choices forced upon him by External Events (also embodied by The Rock, in a Peter Sellars-like double role). Which I think is also a perfect illustration of Geddy Lee's admotion, "And if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice (ba-dum-dum)." The left needs to start listening to Rush and The F'n' Rock: There is no Option C, guys. Get over it.
He found -- sorry about the sexist implications here -- that while men tended to reason according to a "ladder" or heirarchy of moral imperatives (i.e., to preserve health is more important than the injunction against theft), women tended to avoid the hypothetical and answer that the father should just "talk to the pharmacist" and see if he could get the medicine for free. Based on that, he concluded, a bit controversially, that men had a higher capacity for moral thinking than women, who tended to avoid moral dilemmas by wishing them away rather than confronting them directly and choosing the most vital moral imperative. On his own six-point scale of capacity for moral reasoning, he found the average man scored something like a 5, and the average woman a 4. An entire stage of "moral development" lower. One of his researchers -- a feminist lefty named Carol Gilligan -- was outraged by all this, and wrote a big essay called, I think, "Jacob's Ladder and Amy's Web," and later a book called In a Different Voice, arguing that this tendency of women was not indicative of a lesser capacity of moral judgment, but rather some sort of different-but-superior way of viewing the world. An interconnected web of complexly woven interrelationships of caring and sharing and snuggling and huggling and that sort of bullshit. I actually wonder if this indicates a difference in male and female thinking so much as it illustrates the gulf between conservative and liberal thinking. Conservatives, it seems to me, tend to display (or be gulity of, depending on your orientation) "hard thinking," and are willing and able to make difficult moral choices. Liberals tend to deny the necessity of choosing between imperfect options and seek to postulate some poorly-defined "Third Way" that yields a perfect outcome but, alas, is also as fanciful as a pink unicorn wearing bunny-slippers. "Soft thinking," I would call it. Stukom tipped me as to how to find all this stuff, and I'm looking through web-hits to see if I can find a good essay about it that I can post. posted by Ace at 06:02 AM
CommentsThere is a cedar tree revolution going on in my pants after looking at those Lebanese chicks. Posted by: lumberjackin amish on March 5, 2005 06:53 AM
While not exactly in the spirit of your piece, I would add that the UN and the French had long ago passed resolution after resolution telling Syria to get out of Lebanon to no avail. Now, Syria is discussing pulling out. What has changed to make the Syrians decide to think about pulling back? That's right. The 400-pound gorilla standing at their back door. This is just more evidence of the impotence of the UN. They spent years trying to solve the Lebanese problem diplomatically to no avail. Then without the support of the UN, we went into Iraq, kicked out Saddam, killed a bunch of terrorists, and held free elections. Suddenly, Syria starts thinking about leaving Lebanon. Yeah, that's the result of the brilliance of UN diplomacy. Posted by: Steve L. on March 5, 2005 06:54 AM
Yes, but I imagine that even more important than the military threat is the paradigm shift in thinking in the region-- a shift caused by the elections of 30 January. Not to keep sucking up to Reynolds, but last week he commented about a "preference cascade," and linked an old TechCentralStation essay about that. It's worth reading, but you'll have to dig into his site to find the link. Long story short: People tend to hide or bury their true preferences when they believe that they're either not socially acceptable (like displaying one's patriotism) or are impossible to achieve (like foring democratic reforms upon a tyranny). That's called "preference falsification." But when an event occurs to make people realize that they either don't care about the social acceptabliity of a preference (as they seemed to after 9-11, displaying flags proudly) or that the impossible might just be possible after all (the elections in Iraq), this can cause a very rapid transformation in thinking as people stop falsifying their preferences and insist on achieving their actual preferences. Very good article. I'm lazy, but I think I might just have to find that and link it. Posted by: ace on March 5, 2005 07:01 AM
You forgot the ever-popular and time-honored option D, none of the above. That's liberalism's answer to everything. Make a lot of noise, empanel some experts, propose more talks, determine that someone must take action, then settle for the status quo, propose even more talks, and condemn anyone with the courage to actually do something about whatever it was you made all the noise about in the first place. When that person does something and it succeeds immediately say that it would have happened without that action, grudgingly admit that maybe, just maybe that person was right, in some twisted sort of way, then step in and take credit for it just like you did it yourself. No risk involved, no backbone required, just the ability to lie well, the other thing liberalism excells at. Just like the French growing a pair big enough to stand up to Syria and Assad now, their occupation of Lebanon isn't anything new, but they know if they don't jump on the Bush bandwagon now those few people left on this planet that don't think of them as gutless, greedy, thieving enablers of tyranny will change their minds. All eight of them. Posted by: bullwinkle on March 5, 2005 07:13 AM
You've hit the nail, Ace. For decades, groups like Amnesty International would document their morally superior outrage about Saddam's horrors; but when the US took the only effective course of action, they were even more outraged. The implication is inescapable: better that his regime had continued to rape and slaughter, and the impotent Euro-poseurs had continued to preen and posture. Repeatedly throughout the presidential campaign, John Kerry selected the liberal's favorite option. For example, when asked whether his refusal to use military force would have left Saddam still in power, he said, "Not necessarily." It's the kind of worthless quibble we'll see from liberals over and over again as Bush's Middle East initiative succeeds. When asked if George Bush is rsponsible for the democratic transformation of the Muslim world, they'll say, "Not necessarily." Posted by: lyle on March 5, 2005 08:42 AM
My rather useless philosophy degree finally comes in handy. The main proponent of what is formally called the "Cognitive-developmental theory of moralization" is Lawrence Kohlberg. He devised a six-stage sequence of moral development and judgement, which is tested by answering dilemmas. He did not claim that men were superior to women; other people, when looking at the results of his tests, noticed that men tended to score higher than women. This pissed Carol Gilligan off, who apparently believed that if the scores didn't come out the same, the test must be wrong. She then developed this touchy-feel good version of moral development which has the bunnys and the flowers and the other things of that nature. Google should pick up Kohlberg's name, if you're interested in more. Posted by: stukom on March 5, 2005 09:19 AM
Thanks, Stukom. Indeed, the name Kohlberg did turn up a lot of stuff; I'm going through it now to find an essay that best digests the dispute. I'm getting a lot of slide-shows. Posted by: ace on March 5, 2005 10:00 AM
Once again you're reminding me of the exasperating pre-invasion debates I had with my former friend who is a lefty. He insisted that there were 'other ways' of getting Saddam to stop plucking our nerves, but never actually came up with any ideas. Option C all the way. Whatever that was. Now that everybody can see the positive developments in Lebanon, its more than a little irritating to hear, "See?? We TOLD you that Option C would work!" And Reagan's policies had nothing to do with the failure of the Soviet Union either. These people are a wonder. Posted by: lauraw on March 5, 2005 05:26 PM
Yeah, monitoring events via Instapundit has led me to think I REALLY need to vacation in Lebanon soon. Is every woman there really hot or what? Gimme some of that Levantine coochie-coo! Spot on with your Option C analysis. I recently had to bear to overhear a rather dimwitted coworker explaining to another why Jews (she's Jewish) trend towards the Democrat party. Because they're all about helping people and stuff. Doesn't matter whether they've actually HELPED someone, just the fact that they say what they do helps people is enough for her. Uh, proof is in the pudding dear, and your pudding looks rather lumpy. Upon rereading that last bit... eeewww.... Posted by: Squatch on March 5, 2005 05:26 PM
Bingo Lyle: here's a prime example, which I'll duplicate out of respect for the moonbat's privacy rather than linking it. ------------------ The problem is not that people dont consider the result of the Iraq invasion to be a good thing. The problem is if you dont give Bush credit for every positive outcome then all of a sudden you are anti Bush. Cause and effects works much more complicated than event A happend and event B then happend hence event A caused event B. Just like you how people give Reagan all the credit for the USSR falling, the same thing is happening now. Opportunism is always a good political tactic, just like what Bush is doing with soc sec. Now the events of those three places are massivley more complicated.(Im still baffled at what happend to the old bottom up model of conservative thought). The reality is, if Arafat doesnt die, do we see that tide of reform in Palestine? No. If Iraq never happend and Arafat died, do we still see this reform? Yes. Common thread? Arafat. The middle east is not some singular body of thought that loved despotism before and after Iraq now loves democracy. The complexity involved with movments for change has always been there and always will be when power is centralized. I suppose if Bush wants, he can go back retroactivley and take credit for those who want reforms in Iran too. He can claim "they knew I was coming!" One could argue Iraq has been a big push in the back but we cant know that yet. Everyone kept saying we wont know if Iraq is a success or failure for the middle east until sometime down the road. But now Bush gets to pick and choose the events to take credit for? What is this, a buffet line? Here is a better lesson to be learned from the recent events. If you allow a nation and its people to choose their own leadership and allow them to push their own reforms while advocating democracy, good things happend. But when you get in and start playing with the putty, you screw up. Iran is a great example. The people there wanted the Shah gone but because he was so proAmerican, we decided to interfere with their choices. So, out of anger mostly, they turn to the opportunistic Ayatollah who was NOT that popular. The same events are occuring in Iran, Palestine, and Lebanon. We didnt go in deciding who is in and who is out. We let them take care of their problems and they do fine. If anything, Iraq undercuts this positive growth because it keeps in the minds of the people the idea of this big bully who is ready to use its huge army to control the region. Of course the backlash from Iraq wasnt that bad, but knowing that Iraq had very little to do with outsting a dictator and more to do with our own interests, how much longer until we return to our old ways and screw things up. Reality: Bush's forceful doctrine still has terrible motives but ends up, for now, with good ends. If a serial killer accidently kills a serial rapist, he doesnt get a parade. Posted by: on March 5, 2005 08:36 PM
Pretty long winded piece there Ace - it all boils down to one sentence though: Forsake "good enough" in persuit of "perfect" and you'll wind up with squat in the end. As the hotrodders say, you gotta "run what you brung" Posted by: on March 5, 2005 08:44 PM
Heartily agree that early Rush -- Ayn Rand stylings and all -- is good stuff for evaluation of one's inner ethos.......but Neil Peart's the lyricist. Of course, Rush (one of my favorite bands) has an odd structure: Geddy Lee, one of rock's greatest bassists, is best known as providing Rush's lead vocals -- which, to be charitable, are an acquired taste. Neil Peart, lyricist extraordinaire and an incredible master of complex rhythms, is possibly best known for juggling drumsticks. Alex Zivojinovic (better known as Lifeson), a guitar maniac who can play classical, rock, rhythm, lead, and chorus in the course of a 3 minute song, is probably best known for being Nordic...which he is not. I would have to recommend their pre-'81 albums as the perfect soundtrack to any film about "finding oneself as a libertarian". Posted by: cthulhu on March 5, 2005 11:39 PM
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