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December 20, 2004

Puzzler of the Day: What Does Bin Ladin Want?

The smarties at the New York Times are hopelessly befuddled; our intelligence services are confused and uncertain.

Mary at Exit Zero has a clue for them. One picture is worth a thousand New York Times think-pieces:

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Click on picture for article; scan down to "Forensically Verifiable."


posted by Ace at 05:20 PM
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Ho-hum. The New York Times. Does anyone but sneering anti-American NYC intellectuals wearing lots of black take them seriously any more?

Posted by: http://courtzero.blogspot.com/">Sailor Kenshin on December 20, 2004 07:02 PM

FYI that photo and many others were taken by a friend of ours who we met through LGF, who was able to be on the site a few days after 9-11, I forget how.
Some glossy magazine should publish all of them.

Posted by: Yehudit on December 20, 2004 07:46 PM

Perhaps, it's just me, but I get a little more than creeped out when I look at that photo, and then imagine the competition that took place to build 'bigger and better' on that very site.

I know that some believe that building again equates to moving on, but for me...I'd just as soon see this gaping emptiness in the middle of the city.

NOTHING serves as so stark a reminder as rounding the corner and seeing that hole in the ground.

Good G-d! How can anyone ever deny, or ignore, what happened on that day?

Posted by: jmflynny on December 20, 2004 09:15 PM

Ace, what a ridiculous question. We all know what bin Laden wants - an understanding of the root causes of terrorism, and a sensitive plan for dealing with them.

Posted by: TallDave on December 20, 2004 09:19 PM

Oddly enough, according to TallDave, both Osama and I want the same thing.

Of course, I think the root causes of terrorism are a false sense of entitlement and a lack of appreciation for the consequences of one's acts -- and I think that total obliteration is a sensitive and nuanced way of dealing with such mindsets....

Nice comment, TD.

Posted by: cthulhu on December 21, 2004 12:26 AM

I wonder how many people who are outraged by the actions on 9/11 thought the IRA were freedom fighters?

I personally think it wouldn't be a bad idea to understand our enemy and what he wants. Do you think we can beat him without that knowledge? Do you have any idea what this is about?

Answers on a postcard to "I think that total obliteration is a sensitive and nuanced way of dealing with such mindsets" Competition.

Posted by: MAD on December 21, 2004 09:04 AM

Osama has made his purpose very clear. In 1998 he said: "Our call is a call to Islam ... It is a call to all mankind ... It is an invitation we extend to all to all the nations to embrace Isalm, the religion that calls for justice ... not differentiating between black and white ... except with respect to their devotedness. All people who worship Allah, not each other, are equal before Him. We are entrusted to spread this message and to extend that call to all people."

In short, Allahs messenger has unequivically stated that his purpose is to spread Isalm to all the nations, by any means necessary. And Praise Allah, Muslims shall eat the children of all unbelievers.

ALL THE NATIONS SHALL BOW DOWN TO
ALLAH THE MERCIFUL!

Posted by: 72VIRGINS on December 21, 2004 10:11 AM

So you believe that 9/11 was an attempt to spread islam to the USA.

Herein lies your problem.

Know your enemy.

Posted by: MAD on December 21, 2004 11:28 AM

I personally think it wouldn't be a bad idea to understand our enemy and what he wants. Do you think we can beat him without that knowledge? Do you have any idea what this is about?


That’s a great question. What kind of enemy would slaughter thousands of innocent people in an unprovoked act of war? What culture would celebrate that attack while simultaneously lying about the perpetrators.


To understand this enemy, you have understand their history, their religious beliefs and their laws.


The religion that bin Laden grew up with, and their pro-slavery, pro-genocide version of Islamic (Shariah) law inspired this attack.


That’s why its no surprise that the states that support al Qaeda, like Iran and Saudi Arabia, also follow these fundamentalist Shariah laws. It’s also no surprise that they deny their involvement. Their laws, based on the Koran, allow them to lie in a time of war.


"The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, “He who settles disagreements between people to bring about good or says something commendable is not a liar.”


The ‘good or commendable thing’ is interpreted by states like Iran as the current jihad.


That, combined with the more modern philosophies of Sayyed Qutb, as described here by author Paul Berman, illustrate what this genocidal supremacist enemy wants.


According to Qutb-inspired terrorist groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, (and their Student groups in the United States) their goal is to bring Islam, and Shariah laws to the United States.


...and that's the short version of 'know your enemy'. But I still think the picture (sent to me by the Lady of Shalott) says it all.


Thanks, Ace, for posting it.

Posted by: mary (at exit zero) on December 21, 2004 12:19 PM

911 was meant to destroy the economy of the Great Satan to hinder it's ability to wage war against Islam and support Israel. And Oh yes, Islam shall rule the world. In the initial stages, the Americans and their lackeys in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, all Arab countries and The Zionist entity Israel, shall be defeated and removed from these lands. Islam shall retake the middle east and especially the oilfields. Then the price of oil shall be raised many fold to destroy the economies of the Great Satan and the rest of the west. Beginning with Spain, the EU shall fold like dominoes. Osama has told us this, his intentions are clear. While Islam builds enough nuclear weapons to stalemate the US, the Great Satan shall be softened up from within by our advance guard Jihadis. Over time the people of the US and the world shall come to respect Isalm and the power of Allah and shall convert or die. Anyone who does not understand this is hiding from the truth, and knows not his enemy, and that is your problem.

ALLAH AKBAR!!!

Posted by: 72VIRGINS on December 21, 2004 12:44 PM

If they're going to build something there, it has to be bigger and bolder than what was there originally. This Freedom-Tower-Windmill thing is bullshit.
I want a ginormous eyesore Xs 2 that says we've got so much money and power we don't need no stinkin' taste! Like a mega-pyramid from the Blade Runner or something.

Posted by: Iblis on December 21, 2004 01:44 PM

Whatever is built on the sight sends a message to the rest of the world for all time. And that message should be:

You cannot defeat us no matter what you do,

WE SHALL PREVAIL!

Posted by: 72VIRGINS on December 21, 2004 02:01 PM
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