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October 27, 2004
What Did Andrew Sullivan Expect in the War, Anyway?A mysterious reader calling himself "vs" drops by to answer. I love it. All this sweet work done by someone else, and all to the embarassment of Andrew Sullivan. A few days ago, I asked: What number, praytell, did Mr. Sullivan expect? When he was so passionately, and so emotionally, making his case for all the wond'rous benefits that would flow from an American invasion, what number of American dead was he envisioning? What number of American dead did he have in his mind as the break-point between a war that was virtuous and necessary and a war that was too painful and not worth fighting at all? "vs" tells me that during the drive on Baghdad, Sullivan answered my question thus: The phrase "it seems -- even if the war overall is going well so far" is the qualification only a master blogger could pull off. So's the final sentence. If there's room for doubting the hawks' "grander" rosy scenarios, is there no room for doubting the less grand ones, like, er, that Rummy hasn't obviously screwed up so far? In fact, to the naked eye, he's kicking butt. Surely the best neoliberal criterion should still be Kenneth Pollack's (partly because it wasn't made with any of the current debate in mind): So, it seems that Andrew Sullivan expected some 1000 American deaths, albeit all coming in eight weeks of hard fighting. Well, that didn't happen; Saddam's forces melted away to fight not hard and in mass but in guerilla -- or terrorist -- fashion. Still, at the end of the day, we're just above 1000 American deaths. And yet Sullivan now finds such a tally too horrible a toll to bear. Without doubt, we all would have been grateful had our casualties in Iraq been limited to the 150 brave men and women who died in the first few weeks of combat. We would have been joyous had we lost no one at all. Still, it seems strange that what Andrew Sullivan once thought of as a reasonable under-over for war-dead has now become evidence of Bush's "criminal negligence," or whatever the hystrionic little twit is calling it lately. It just so happens that the Massachusetts Supreme Court forced gay marriage on a reluctant state in the interim, and Bush, to stop other courts from doing likewise, announced his support of the FMA. But that, of course, is just a coincidence. posted by Ace at 02:50 AM
Commentsclose, but i've always thought his number was closer to 100,000. Dollars, that is. Figure he's just looking to hop on the Soros gravy train. He's a better writer than some of the others in their stable. Posted by: w on October 27, 2004 05:48 AM
I think Sully read Iowahawks little Edwards revelation and is hoping to get a taste of that "sothern fried chicken" if you know what I mean... you don't well let's just say that "Little John" likes it in the pooper Posted by: sentinel on October 27, 2004 09:18 AM
And ole Sully does need some consoling now that no one is paying any attention to him. Posted by: Iblis on October 27, 2004 07:21 PM
Perhaps the question to ask Sully should be couched in different terms: How many Americans is he willing to let die while "waging peace"? When will that number be intolerable, and for how long? 3,000 was horrible for about 9 weeks...but somehow the 1,000 in Iraq is horrible for months and months...it's unforgettable and unforgiveable. Islamofacism has been both to him...forgettable and forgiveable. Posted by: Joan of Argghh! on October 27, 2004 07:32 PM
Given the etymology, I love the words "hysterical", "hystrionic", "hyssie fit", etc., used regarding A. Sullivan. Do people actually read the guy any more? Is he still begging for "bandwidth" money? Is he still pro war? I gave up a long time ago. Posted by: kobekko on October 27, 2004 11:07 PM
Save the bandwidth, Ace. Sullivan is like a stockier, hairy-assed Anna Nicole; they both wallow in attention of ANY sort Posted by: jeff on October 28, 2004 01:14 AM
Sullivan has gone wobbly. I'm sure if you press him, he'd tell you all of the strategic and tactical mistakes Bush has personally made in Iraq. I'm sure it has nothing to do with hedging his bet and trying not to be on the losing side. Oh, and if we weren't so involved in Iraq and more focused on finding Bin Laden, Bush would be "delusionally focused" on Bin Laden to the point where he let this Zarqawi guy cause a lot of damage. Shame on that coward Sullivan for not having the courage of his convictions - or maybe convictions at all. Posted by: Cygnus X-1 on October 28, 2004 03:38 PM
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