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October 26, 2004

Stunner: American Public Tuning Out Mainstream Media as Reliably Liberal and Liberally Unreliable

Seems more and more folks are getting their news from something called the "Internet":

Even though Piasecki is firmly committed to voting for President Bush, he doesn't rely on the large conservative news organisations. Referring to the openly right-wing cable news channel owned by Rupert Murdoch, he says: "I'm a Fox kind of guy, but if I want to find out about the reality of what our forces are experiencing in the war in Iraq, or the huge wealth that John Kerry and his family have, I look for it on the internet."

...

Travelling through the heartlands of the United States, one comes across many Americans like Piasecki and Cheramie, who rely on websites not just to find opinions that match their own, but also to uncover facts they believe bolster those views. It is a trend that reflects a deeply divided US electorate coming to the end of a bitterly contested presidential campaign.

...

Also present, however, was a new media class: the bloggers. These individuals are part-diarists, part-polemicists, who publish their journals and accounts of the election campaign directly on the internet. If nothing else, the 2004 presidential election campaign will be noted as probably the first Western election where bloggers joined the ranks of journalists courted by the main candidates and parties, and were given similar kinds of privileges to travel with candidates and be afforded the same level of access at conferences and rallies.

Errrr... Um....

Alas, overstating it a bit. At least from my point of view.

...

[T]he first and most important challenge that the mainstream US media faces is getting it right this election, one that many predict will be just as closely run as its predecessor. Whether it succeeds or not could determine just how many people decide to consult the mainstream media on defining national issues in the future.

I should note this is from the BBC. And, oddly enough, the writer finds that the reason more Americans are tuning out from the MSM is because it's apparently too darn pro-Iraq-War:

The second factor is a slowly growing unease within America about the current situation in Iraq. Here again, one detects a sense that many Americans are beginning to doubt what they are getting from much of the mainstream press. News organisations themselves have admitted to failures. The New York Times was one of the first to declare that it had failed to be robust enough in its coverage of the build-up to the invasion of Iraq.

Ummm... okay.

But, you know, the BBC isn't pathologically pacifist or anything. I mean, millions of Americans are just tuning out the MSM over their arrogant and self-satisfied liberal condescension, but that isn't a simple enoug answer for the BBC.

No, they dig deeper, to find the reason for the rise of the alternative media is a growing displeasure with American warmongering.

What can you say? They invented the "rueful chuckle" for a reason, and this, I think, is one of them.

Thanks to Alarming News, who also links a cool little feature, a little search engine to find your local polling place.


posted by Ace at 03:32 AM
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That was the quickest link job I've ever seen. I had barely finished posting that link to the polling search engine. You do work fast, Mr. Ace.

Posted by: Karol on October 26, 2004 03:33 AM

Oh, and I blow Ken Wheaton's three links this week out of the water with my three links from Ace in a 24 hour period, four if you count the two in just this post. Wooooooo.

Posted by: Karol on October 26, 2004 03:36 AM

Count me in the group of people who now get most of my news from the internet. That normally puts me 48 hours in front of any MSM story. It allows me to let my circle of friends know what will be on the air within a few days. (Oh by the way Matt Lauer on NBC is still reporting the "missing explosives" as if it were a just breaking story that is bad for the Bush camp)

Within the last two months I discovered the bloggers and have been hooked ever since.

Being able to look at KOS and the DU is priceless. There is nothing to validate an observation than to watch the otherside react to it.

Posted by: Allan Yackey on October 26, 2004 08:16 AM

I'm fairly new to blogging too, but already people are starting to come to me to find out what's really "new" and what the "real" story is. The MSM can't melt down fast enough for me. Even Fox is still days behind the bloggers and airing the same stories as the liberal media and missing the stuff you find in the blogs, although they are making progress. I've stopped looking at the other media so I don't know what they're doing anymore.

Having the "other side" be free to comment in conservative blogs helps keep us honest. It's a natural checks and balances system that the MSM hasn't had for decades.

Posted by: Elisa on October 26, 2004 09:52 AM

Hasta la vista, MSM.

Posted by: Maxim on October 26, 2004 11:21 AM
Count me in the group of people who now get most of my news from the internet.
Been there for about 9 months m'self. :) Badge of honor baby, just gotta know the sites to check out regularly. That's a good post idea actually - run up a list of blogs for new blog readers, and give a little bit of flavor for each. Also a post about jargon would be cool...
Posted by: fat kid on October 26, 2004 11:42 AM

Yeah, I barely even glance at the WSJ anymore. The best part's online for free at opinionjournal.com anyway.

Posted by: See-Dubya on October 26, 2004 02:52 PM
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