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October 13, 2004
O'Reilly Producer Claims "Forced Into Phone Sex"I am not saying it's true. But it's not as if it can be overlooked. The Smoking Gun has the dirty details from Mackris' complaint, and they are in fact dirty. Not filthy-dirty, but dirty. posted by Ace at 06:47 PM
CommentsHow do you force someone into Phone sex? How do you Force someone to do anything when you are not in the same room? Where they sitting next to each other on a sofa talking on the same extension. 60 million dollars, unbelievable. Maybe her lawyer is part of Edwards firm. Posted by: Jennifer on October 13, 2004 07:09 PM
That seemed to be a bit more like a transcript, not merely a recounting of the details. What, with the "um"s included in the conversation. Great. Just when you think that Franken has disappeared... Posted by: jmflynny on October 13, 2004 07:13 PM
I have always thought O'Reilly to be a bloviating asshole (and am I the ONLY one who remembers that he got his start in tabloid television shows?) but even this seems a bit, well, unseemly. Phone sex. :: GUFFAW :: Forced phone sex? Pul-eeze. Posted by: Margi on October 13, 2004 07:44 PM
Well, we're not talking about "forced" as in physically forced. We're talking about "pressure" from a boss. Allegedly, of course. Posted by: ace on October 13, 2004 08:08 PM
Posted by: Joe R. the Unabrewer on October 13, 2004 08:09 PM
Yeah, I know. I was splitting hairs, actually. It's like I said before. Now that I'm mature enough to know exactly how to handle sexual harassment in the work place I: a) no longer work in an office and, b) am of the age-group no longer to be considered harassworthy. Aheh. Posted by: Margi on October 13, 2004 08:18 PM
Sorry. I don't believe the woman. Go read the whole thing at Smoking Gun. Then tell me if you find it believable. There are two huge issues: 1) If you were harrassed, why go gack to Fox after having left. 2) Hang up the phone! Walk away from the dinner table (if there were dinners). Now if tapes show up, I'll reconsider (i.e. if there not "faked" ala CBS memos). Posted by: Charlie on October 13, 2004 09:38 PM
I was in a dating situation with a guy when I was single. Now. At one point in our LAST phone 'chat,' he was saying that he was doing things to me, and that I was doing things, that I find...diabolical. And Deviant, with a capital DEVIANT. Granted, I didn't work with him. But its really not that difficult to hang up the phone, if I did. ESPECIALLY in this age of sexual harassment training, that every executive has to go through. Great joke that actually happened in the office of someone I knew; A guy was hanging around the office right after the mandatory sexual harassment training meeting. His boss (female) walks in, after a walk outside on a glorious day. She says, "It feels so good out!" "IN MY OFFICE!!" Posted by: lauraw on October 13, 2004 10:13 PM
A-hem. Dianna and LauraW are both determined to take this very-respectable site down into the dirty-tubes with them. Let's keep it out of the gutter, ladies. Posted by: ace on October 13, 2004 11:23 PM
Just kidding, of course. But seriously, in the words of One Night in Bangkok, let's get our fun above the waistline, sunshine. No, really, I'm just kidding. Posted by: ace on October 13, 2004 11:30 PM
Ace, the line is, 'I get my kicks above the waist.' After reading her complaint, I think she watched too much of Sex and the City, or whatever that show was that all the women I knew kept talking about. Sorry, but this is just supposed to embarass Fox. This doesn't pass the laugh test; imagine a woman asking to come back to a job where someone sexually harassed her! And not some pitiful minimum wage cleaning lady, but a woman who can pull down $93,000. Posted by: Dianna on October 14, 2004 12:24 AM
Well, okay, it's "kicks," but it is "waistLINE," because that rhymes with sunshine. Posted by: ace on October 14, 2004 12:27 AM
I've noticed over the past month or two O'Baby, I mean O'Reily, has been sliding to a more moderate tone... Not wanting to judge Dan Rather, Martha Stewart, etc. I think the woman is a flea trying ping him, but that said, it's pretty clear the speaking style, the detailed comments and style of speech are clearly classic O'Reilly. It's not good for him or Fox. Time for the right to steal the conspiracy stick from the looney libs: She left Fox... went to CNN, became the Manchurian Producer, infiltrated back into Fox just to ping the "Big" guy. :-o The sad part is, a very articulate person, in regards to some conservative matters, is GOING to take a massive credibility hit. I hate that. Watching O'Reilly talk about this on his "talking points" segment tonight, I kept thinking about Clinton wagging his fingers and talking about "that woman" and also how he cornered Dan Rather on if he thought Clinton was honest. We MUST be intellectually honest in our dealings. Posted by: Bladebender on October 14, 2004 01:50 AM
I think the $60m is ridiculous, of course, but it also sounds like the chick has a tape. That exchange about the what he'd like to do to her with a loofah/falafel (!) looked like it was a transcript, particularly since other conversations were merely paraphrased. Posted by: Scout on October 14, 2004 08:21 AM
Now we know why O'Reilly has been taking it easy on the big networks, especially Rather. Posted by: rdbrewer on October 14, 2004 11:47 AM
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