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September 20, 2004
BREAKING: CBSNews Admits the Rather Obvious-- Docs Are Forgeries
Dan Rather cops to the obvious a mere twelve days after everyone ele in the world knew in this statement: Last week, amid increasing questions about the authenticity of documents used in support of a 60 MINUTES WEDNESDAY story about President Bush's time in the Texas Air National Guard, CBS News vowed to re-examine the documents in question—and their source—vigorously. And we promised that we would let the American public know what this examination turned up, whatever the outcome. Why the continued, face-saving reluctance to simply say, "They're forged"? Note how he phrases it-- he just "no longer has the confidence" in the documents. They're proven forgeries, Dan. I find we have been misled on the key question of how our source for the documents came into possession of these papers. That, combined with some of the questions that have been raised in public and in the press, leads me to a point where—if I knew then what I know now—I would not have gone ahead with the story as it was aired, and I certainly would not have used the documents in question. Except, of course, getting the President and swinging the election the Democratic candidate you claim you're not biased in favor of.
Mr. Rather interviewed Mr. Burkett on camera this weekend, and several people close to the reporting process said his answers to Mr. Rather's questions led officials to conclude that their initial confidence that the memos had come from Mr. Killian's own files was not warranted. These people indicated that Mr. Burkett had previously led the producer of the piece, Mary Mapes, to have the utmost confidence in the material. But CBS News continues spinning anyway: Yesterday, Emily J. Will, a document specialist who inspected the records for CBS News and said last week that she had raised concerns about their authenticity with CBS News producers, confirmed a report in Newsweek that a producer had told her that the source of the documents said they had been obtained anonymously and through the mail. They ran with documents received anonymously and with no actual human being willing to vouch for their authenticity and provenance? In court, you can't just peddle documents to the jury. Records usually require "authentication" -- some live human witness capable of saying, "These documents are genuine; I have first hand knowledge of their making." How on earth did CBS News decide it wasn't obligated to similarly authenticate the forgeries? In an interview last night she declined to name the producer who told her this but said the producer was in a position to know. CBS News officials have disputed her contention that she warned the network the night before the initial "60 Minutes'' report that it would face questions from documents experts. Let's just say that I have a greater confidence in Ms. Will's word than Ms. Mapes'. Ms. Will hasn't proveably lied to me yet-- something that can't be said for the "highly respected" Mapes. In the coming days CBS News officials plan to focus on how the network moved ahead with the report when there were warning signs that the memorandums were not genuine. Fake but accurate. Fake but accurate. Stonewall. Spin. Rinse. Repeat. Not good enough, Mr. Rather. Update: American Daughter has video of what she claims is a an F-16 targetting Fallujah terrorists, but my "sources" inform me it's actually a "recreation" -- fake, yet accurate -- of bloggers bringing down CBS News. posted by Ace at 12:09 PM
CommentsI think it goes deeper. I want to know what CBS gave Bill Burkett to take the rap. At this point I am firmly convinced that the Kerry camp was involved in some fashion and that Burkett was offered something to say the story started and ended with him. Posted by: Sydney T on September 20, 2004 12:35 PM
I agree with Syd. The Kerry camp is, to me, deeply involved in this. But I think we aren't going to get much more than what we are seeing.... Someone will get fired, Maples it seems, they will pursue the "fake but accurate" and maybe Dan will go on extended holidays...maybe. But will we see this going to the Kerry camp? Unless the MSM gets on it "shark mode". But even so... Posted by: on September 20, 2004 12:55 PM
I agree with Syd. The Kerry camp is, to me, deeply involved in this. But I think we aren't going to get much more than what we are seeing.... Someone will get fired, Maples it seems, they will pursue the "fake but accurate" and maybe Dan will go on extended holidays...maybe. But will we see this going to the Kerry camp? Unless the MSM gets on it "shark mode". But even so... Posted by: Sofia on September 20, 2004 12:56 PM
OK, maybe they did get them anonymously, but how do you know it wasn't an unimpeachable anonymous source? (Just practicing liberal talking points). Posted by: Phil on September 20, 2004 01:10 PM
This Fox News story is worth a look. Burkett admits being the source, and also says he passed the documents to Cleland. I hope that html tag worked right. If not, here it is again to cut & paste: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132906,00.html Posted by: Mike on September 20, 2004 01:19 PM
I don't think they had to give Bill Burkett anything beyond a promise not to file a civil suit against him. It's apparently unlikely criminal charges are possible. I wonder if Burkett realizes he has now poisoned his obsession now and forever? No respectable organization will pursue this any longer. Not that the DNC is a respectable organization. Bush is now a much more 'Fortunate Son' than the DNC wants people to believe he was 30 years ago. What can be better than seeing your enemies destroy themselves like this? Posted by: Eric Pobirs on September 20, 2004 01:26 PM
"Update: American Daughter has video of what she claims is a an F-16 targetting Fallujah terrorists, but my "sources" inform me it's actually a "recreation" -- fake, yet accurate -- of bloggers bringing down CBS News." I wish.....We must keep up the pressure. American Daughter Posted by: American Daughter on September 20, 2004 01:56 PM
Congrats, ACE! You were part of it! Pour yourself a big dollop of that cheap vodka into a tin can - salute the cars passing by - I would say that I'm not watching CBS, and the boycott shouldn't just be about who CBS fires. For all I care they can keep their tarnished employees......what I care about is twofold: 1. That CBS makes internal reforms. In vetting documents and sources far more carefully, and finally recognizing that they have to have a more balanced newsroom that eschews political agenda. When you have a roomful of newsmen, executives, writers, and producers all united as liberal Democrats deciding to run a story on a President they all hate - they lose judgement and objectivity. They have to recognize that unless they fix that, gain journalistic philosophical diversity and implant a devil's advocate or two with real power - they will screw up badly again. 2. CBS needs to come clean with everything they know, on who was involved, in the forgery, and the apparant coordination with the Democrats on the Bush TAND attacks that day. It was the day that McAufliffe's "Fortunate Son" media campaign lauches, Texans for the Truth put out their screed, Ben Barnes "came clean" (ha!), and the Dem candidates and surrogates had speeches mentioning Bush's National Guard "shortfalls". Without assigning guilt, CBS has to say who they talked to about the documents, and details of those messages and conversations with Cleland, Kerry's Headquarters, James C. Moore, Ben Barnes, and the forgery suspect Burkett - over the past several months. ************* If CBS does those two things, it would go a long way towards restoring good will. ********** OK, you're right. Add a 3rd thing that has to be done....heads must roll...I'm feeling less generous....it's gotta be done to restore credibility. Mapes and the executive that stopped all document research once the White House failed to cry that they were fake. A couple of CBS lawyers who failed their duty to warn of danger. Dan Rather? Don't fire him. Keep him around as a de-balled memento. I think a worse punishment would be a suspension. A two-month suspension that admits he is in disgrace, removes him from any election coverage.....and.....spells him with the ditsy ill-prepared, Connie Chung. Posted by: cedarford on September 20, 2004 02:00 PM
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