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September 16, 2004

The New York Times Scrubs Bill Burkett's Records

Ralph Blumenthal endeavors to burnish the credibility of a man implicated in providing the forged Bush documents to CBS.

Ironic that an article about a man alleging to have witnessed the "scrubbing" of one man's records should find his own so thoroughly cleansed, isn't it?

HOUSTON, Sept. 15 - Bill Burkett once said his job was to make Gov. George W. Bush a hero.
As a lieutenant colonel working on the readiness of the Texas National Guard, Mr. Burkett, a lay preacher's son from Portales, N.M., was brought in with a high commission in 1996 to work on mobilization plans that would make the Guard shine.

"I was very supportive of Bush," he said in an interview this year.

Is that what he said in an interview this year?

Well, how this statement from Mr. Burkett earlier:

I have argued with the senior members of the Bush team since 1996, insisting that preventive war was not an option for the United States. The Preventive War concept is a WARHAWK product which, in my opinion, is totally foreign to the principles the Founding Fathers established for the USA.

I wonder -- when he was, by his own account, "argu[ing] with the senior members of the Bush team [back in] 1996, insisting that preventive war was not an option for the United States," was he "very supportive of Bush"?

Pretty interesting that Governor Bush's advisors were discussing preventative war in 1996. Perhaps they suspected trouble from Okalahoma, and wanted the capability to take those Okie evil-doers out if necessary.

But Burkett's also been "very supportive" of all sorts of poliicians. Including, for exampe, Cynthia McKinney:

Only one Democrat chose to step forward and openly place blame, which was deserved, squarely on the shoulders of high-paid professionals who were armed with every advantage other nations would die for. She was castigated and called every named. She is now ostracized from her own party as well as the party of the President. Where were her defenders? More important, where were the defenders of the Constitution and this nation?

Burkett says the following in a Texas Democrats yahoo club he belongs to:

Since 1998, I've commented that we Democratic Leaders were the ones who bear the blame for Democratic defeats. And over the past year, we;ve made great strides to try to correct those problems in Texas. We're not there yet, but we are on our way.

So, let me get this straight: Burkett is a self-described Democratic leader at least since 1998, but we are to believe he was "very supportive" of Bush? When? When did he go from being a Republican to a Democratic leader, exactly?

When did he stop being "very supportive" of conservative Republican George Bush and begin being so admiring of left-liberal-lunatic Democrat Cynthia McKinney?

Probably about the same time he was wrangling with the Governor over preventative war in 1996, and fighting the Governor's staff over their various "WARHAWK product[s]."

There is no evidence that Burkett has ever been anything but a rabidly-partisan Democrat except for his own self-serving say-so -- but of course the Times reporter, eager to put some distance between Burkett and the Democratic Party, dutifully records Burkett's assertion without doing the most cursory fact-checking.

Blumenthal then turns to Burkett's discredited charges about witnessing the "scrubbing" of George Bush's files.

Burkett has named George O. Conn as having been a witness to these alleged crimes. Blumenthal suggests that George O. Conn just might back up Burkett's story:

Mr. Conn, who vouched for Mr. Burkett in his suit in 2002, has a United States government job in Germany and did not respond to an e-mail message and a telephone message left at his home in Dallas. In an e-mail message in February, Mr. Conn said: "I know LTC Bill Burkett and served with him several years ago in the Texas Army National Guard. I believe him to be honest and forthright. He 'calls things like he sees them.' "
Mr. Conn declined to say whether he had seen any cleansing of Mr. Bush's files with Mr. Burkett.

But Conn has in fact previously said whether he saw any cleansing of files. Blumenthal should have been readily able to find this article, being that it was published by the New York Time's sister-paper the Boston Globe:

George O. Conn, a former chief warrant officer with the Guard and a friend of Burkett's, is the person whom Burkett says led him to the room where the Bush records were being vetted. But Conn says he never saw anyone combing through the Bush file or discarding records.
"I have no recall of that," Conn said. "I have no recall of that whatsoever. None. Zip. Nada."

Conn's recollection also undercuts another of Burkett's central allegations: that he overheard Bush's onetime chief of staff, Joe M. Allbaugh, telling a Texas Guard general to make sure there were no embarrassments in the Bush record.

Burkett says he told Conn, over dinner that same night, what he had overheard. But Conn says that, although Burkett told him he worried that the Bush record would be sanitized, he never mentioned overhearing the conversation between Allbaugh and General Daniel James III.

...

According to Burke, Conn asked Scribner what he was doing and Scribner replied that he was looking through Bush's records. Burkett said Conn and Scribner then briefly left him alone, and that he saw some pages of Bush's military records in a trash can near Scribner's desk.

Conn contradicts most of Burkett's rendition. He said that he remembers introducing Burkett to Scribner at the museum but that Scribner never said he was going over the Bush file. "If he had said he was going through George W. Bush's records I would have dropped my teeth. Wow," Conn said. "I would definitely have remembered that. I don't recall that at all."

Burkett also says that, before the encounter with Scribner, he was standing with a group of Guard officers, and heard a ranking officer order Scribner to review the Bush file and remove any documents that might be embarrassing to the then-governor.

But Scribner told the Globe yesterday that no such thing occurred. "It didn't happen. I wasn't even there," Scribner said.

So, Burkett is contradicted by every single man he claims to have been involved with the scrubbing and/or witnessed the scrubbing.

But Ralph Blumenthal doesn't see fit to mention that little triviality. Ralph Blumenthal finds a "previous interview" in which Burkett makes the self-serving, credibility-enhancing statement that he was once very supportive of Bush, but just goshdarn misses the Boston Globe's discrediting of his threadworn charges.

Is Blumenthal merely incompetent? Or is he competent at his actual job-- to enhance the credibility of a potentially-useful Bush accuser and thereby help John kerry get elected?

Blumenthal then goes on to portray Burkett as a brave liberal soul soldiering on amidst conservative thugs who ostracize him. Blumenthal spends so much time relaying what a straight-shooter Burkett is he just seems to forget a few things:

1) Burkett has a history of nervous breakdowns.

2) Due to his illness, he has been unable to find steady work (according to his pleadings in his suit against his superior officers in the guard), a situation for which he personally blames George W. Bush.

3) He claims, rather implausibly, that Bush pulled strings in the Texas guard to deny him medical coverage in an act of retaliation over some dispute Burkett had had with his superiors over a management issue.

4) Burkett's claims about witnessing files being scrubbed have evolved over the years; in a press release he released, he specifically denied that any scrubbing took place, and said only that Bush's files had been handled in an "incompetent manner."

5) He is a hardcore political crank given to likening his political opponents to Napoleon and "Adolf" (one presumes he means Hitler, not Coors).

And, if that's not enough:

6) By the way, he seems to have been at the very least an accomplice in a major act of political forgery. But perhaps the Times no longer considers that a knock against one's credibility-- at least, so long as the forgery was done in order to demonstrate a "higher truth."

I think we can all see the way the New York Times, Boston Globe, and CBS are intending to play this. Plan B-- yes, the man might occasionally dabble in the odd bit of forgery, but we can take his word anyway, because, hey, he was once "very supportive" of George W. Bush, right?

At least before he becan calling him "Adolf."

If the New York Times believes it's no major breach to so thoroughly scrub the files of a demonstrated crank in order to advance their own political ends, how on earth do they have the chutzpah to even accuse Bush of doing similarly?

Life is funny. Had George Bush been a left-liberal political crank rather than a Republican President of the United States, he could have avoided all this Keystone Kriminal records-scrubbing. Our national paper of record, the New York Times, would have taken care of his dirty work for him.

posted by Ace at 01:29 AM

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Here's an attempt at a summary
Killian’s secretary pointed out the terminology in the forged document was not consistent with Bush’s Air National Guard unit at all, but was consistent with Army National Guard terminology. Bill Burkett was in the … Army National Guard.
Lengthy interview with Burkette by extreme rabid partisan Kevin Drum. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1214406/posts
More fun from 2000: http://www.onlinejournal.com/bush/110400Starr-Conover/110400starr-conover.html
Newsweek explicitly states Burkette is the source, a person with a grudge against the National Guard and Bush: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5974040/site/newsweek/
Burkette’s February accusation in CNN: “"I glanced down at the top of those documents. In ink was the word ‘Bush, George W., 1 Lt.’ This was a performance report. I was right at the trash can. I filtered through the top five or six pages in that, and they were all copies and originals of old performance documents and pay records for ‘Bush, George W., 1 Lt.". http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/02/12/elec04.prez.bush.texas.records/
The Boston Globe raises questions about the above CNN Burkette February anti-Bush accusation: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/02/13/doubts_raised_on_bush_accuser?mode=PF
Bill Burkette's lawyer David Van Os was the Travis County Democratic Party Chairman, 1996-98. He travelled to Palm Beach, Florida, Nov/Dec 2000, to assist Democratic Party in vote recount efforts.
Click on the several Bill Burkett links here and learn just how unusually motivated a partisan democrat he is, in his own words: http://www.geocities.com/stoutdem/chair.html
Burkette attempted (and failed) to sue his commanding officers for conspiring to deny him medical treatment: http://www.3rdcoa.courts.state.tx.us/opinions/htmlopinion.asp?OpinionId=10979
Article points out forgeries were faxed from Abeline Texas Kinko's, the closest one to Bill Burkett's home. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24635-2004Sep15.html

Posted by: anon on September 16, 2004 01:47 AM

WHoa whoa whoa Ace!

You might not want to say a "proven forger"!

Nothing's been proven yet. Forgery's a crime and these are just allegations. Damn strong ones, though; I'm pretty sure you've found the right guy but let's keep Richard Jewell and defamation suits in mind!

Posted by: See-Dubya on September 16, 2004 01:50 AM

Point taken. I really have to start writing a first draft and then polishing it, rather than writing, posting, and THEN editing once posted.

That said-- who the fuck are we kidding? The guy's own fucking lawyer said "what difference would it make?" if a man -- hypoethetically, mind you -- created forgeries to prove what he knew, in his heart, to be true.

Posted by: ace on September 16, 2004 02:02 AM

Broken Record here again... I still need someone explain to me how an officer could screw up the acronym "OER" with "OETR".

I am not at all familiar with the Army National Guard to find out whether they MIGHT have had a combined form of an Officer Effectiveness Report and a Training Report but I seriously doubt it.

Ace - Let's not make the same mistake as many journalists; although this is a minor point in the entire document fraud story this issue still has to have some plausible explanation.

Explanitory note to people not familiar with the military: The term OER is so common in the Army and Air Force that it would be equavalent of a journalist refering to an AP report as an AUPI report (Associated/United Press International report??)... Weak analogy, but hopefully ya'll understand what I mean.

Bottom line (based on my research so far): If Burkette is the author of the fogery, he has got to be really off his rocker. His work with Anti-Bush activists would have to be so intense that he has completely forgotten almost EVERYTHING in his time in the military and military lingo. I can't stress enough about forgetting the term OER; it's like any college bound student not knowing what an SAT or ACT is, even 20 years after college.

Posted by: JFH on September 16, 2004 02:19 AM

JHF--

I can't explain. Furthermore, I can tell you that in tracking Burnett's writings, I saw him actually use the "OER" terminology, so he seems to have known the right acronym.

Burkett may not have actually created the forgeries, mind you. Remember, he's only suspected of providing them to Rather. He actually might have gotten them from some other M.other H.umper, but then vouched for the authenticity of them.

Posted by: ace on September 16, 2004 02:23 AM

I still don't think Burkett did the drafting. He wouldn't get the abbreviation for Lieutenant Colonel wrong. I think he coordinated the project, but some young dipshit did the writing.

Also, a clue bleg on another angle: Anyone know how tall those 15-gallon trash cans were Burkett described in his story? It may be important and I'll explain later. Trust me.

Posted by: Fresh Air on September 16, 2004 02:24 AM

Or, he could have just screwed up.

Let's face it-- whoever created those forgeries was a little mentally impaired.

They were shoddy. Retard-level shoddy. When someone creates retard-level shoddy forgeries, I don't think we should get too hung up on an occasional misuse of military acronyms.

Posted by: ace on September 16, 2004 02:25 AM

Google his attorney's name--David Van Os--on an image search.

Heh. Heh. Good stuff. Carville, Clinton. . .Burkett and his attorney are well connected with the Democratic Party.

Looks like the Burkett fellow might have been offered up the party on this one. Let him be the one to spread the docs. If it works, great; if not, they think they've shielded themselves enough. And CBS and the NY Times are doing their level best to help perpetrate this fraud.

Posted by: Ted on September 16, 2004 02:34 AM

By the way, I see now that every blogger is using that "running interference" line as evidence that Burkett is involved-- something that a commenter pointed out here Sunday.

I really wanted to use that-- but damn, I already felt like I was a little too forward-leaning on Burkett; I felt like a walking lawsuit waiting to happen.

Posted by: ace on September 16, 2004 02:34 AM

This story is exactly what drives me batshit about this entire scandal. Rather is caught putting on fake evidence to advance a fake story for political purpose. His excuse will eventually be that he was conned, and of course as Ace has already shown, plan B is fully in effect. The docs are lies, but not the story. So what drives me nuts about this is that this Blumenthal fuck, probably related to another serial liar, Sidney, has just done something WORSE than putting on (negligently, at best) fake evidence. Blumenthal is just doing exactly what all the major players in the MSM (ABC, NBC, CNN, BBC, NYT, WaPo, Boston Globe, etc. etc. etc.) are doing and have been doing every single day for years: 1) Scrubbing uncomfortable facts from their stories. 2) Presenting known lies as truth. 3) Doing absolutely lousy research into their "source's" previous statements/positions on the most important questions. 4) Did I mention bald-faced lying yet? I can't stand Dan Rather, but at least he can ultimately salvage things for his network by backing off the story and letting it die, and saying "Garsh, fellas, I look like a dope! They sure fooled me with those fake documents." Not that the egotistical fool will do so, but he could if he so desired. On the other hand, for two years we've been hearing from the NYT and the rest of them the following phrases: "Rush to war" and "Unilaterally invaded Iraq" and "16-words" and "Halliburton" this and "Cheney" that, and all the other outright BULLSHIT that they objectively know is all lies, from beginning to end, and they will never stop, because we've all accepted that level of lying as inevitable, when in reality everyone with a brain and a conscience should be up in arms every single damned time the NYT or NBC or ________________ (fill in the name of your favorite MSM DNC propaganda organ here), just as the Blogosphere got after Gunga Dan for his child-like forgeries! I love what is happening to Rather right now, but damnit, I'd like to see the same treatment and outrage for the rest of his gang of commie-lib lying fellow travelers!!!! Yes, yes, I know. I should stop commenting and start blogging.

By the way, Ace, you are on this Burkett fucker like John Kerry on an ugly rich hag. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Sharkman on September 16, 2004 02:35 AM

Yeah except if he was half bright he would have scrubbed all the Army terminology as well. Maybe he had that anti-Bush site open on his browser to get all the names and dates right and just figured heck, if that's what the form says then I'd better go with it. I don't think we're talking about a rocket scientist here.

After reading JFK's how much of his own document typing did he ever do in his career? It's one thing to know the right formatting when you see it, but just how much of it would he remember 30 years removed from its practice. Maybe after six months of waiting for the axe to fall one Bush, he got impatient and rushed through something he thought looked good enough (IT WAS for Rather!).

Posted by: Stan on September 16, 2004 02:35 AM

This blog is a WARHAWK production!

There will be an accounting.

Posted by: Afake on September 16, 2004 02:42 AM

Thanks, Akafe. You just provided me with my new sidebar motto.

Posted by: ace on September 16, 2004 02:45 AM

Interesting that Burkett also questions Rather being in the Marines when Rather failed boot camp because of illness. Rather and Burkett go back quite aways. I guess the question is why send them to CBS if he and Rather don't get along? Maybe because Rather is getting sloppy and wouldn't do too much "investigating " as to authenticity if he knew the docs came from Burkett a known Vet debunker for lack of a bette term.

Posted by: Walt Kaiser on September 16, 2004 02:58 AM

To: JFH & Ace

Regarding the OETR abbreviation question. Sometime in this hectic week, I read a long explanation by a military expert who had really looked into this well. Like you, he also said that's a really common abbreviation in the service. I can't remember how I came upon that link. What I do remember is this: in the official Air Force publications there is a reference to "Officer Effectiveness/Training Report". The important thing here is the slash. It means Officer Effectiveness Report OR Officer Training Report. You see? Two entirely different things - one regarding efficiency, the other regarding training.

When I looked at Col. Lechliter's 36-page attack on Bush's TANG period, I noticed that on page 1 he has it right there in the index (number "V") : " Bush’s Performance as Documented on AF Form 77, “Officer Effectiveness/Training Report” (F77)." "

(Wish I knew how to take pictures of items and post them as pictures.)

So, if someone created the memo reading this, with unfamiliarity of the common OER abbreviation, they might make it OETR. Does what I say make sense to you?

Here's the link to the 36-page doc: Lechliter's connection to the Globe: http://www.redstate.org/story/2004/9/10/135321/013. It also links to the Boston Globe 9/8/04 article and to Lechliter's 36-pager.

Seeing this Lechliter 36-pager made me lean more towards Heldt as the typist of the docs, because I believe he wasn't in any service (army, air, etc) AND Heldt is acknowledged by Col. Lechliter in his 36-pager for having assisted him in his research (probably provided him with all those FOI docs he'd obtained), along with two Boston Globe reporters, Latour and Walter Robinson and another Bush attacker, Lukasian.

Posted by: on September 16, 2004 08:45 AM

Oops, I forgot to type my identity. Been up all night again.

Posted by: BR on September 16, 2004 08:46 AM

Ace,

Wow.

There is much evidence here of a true conspiracy, i.e. a coordinated effort to commit a crime, in this case fraud.

And yes, those shadowy link, what to do about them?

It is not at all clear to me who wrote the memos. But I agree, the Van Os-DNC connection is compelling and must be pursued.

Pursued that is, if you know, shadowy links are important n'stuff.

If Congress gets a bee in its bonnet and finds a way to open hearings on this...

It might be time for some CowBell.

Posted by: MeTooThen on September 16, 2004 08:56 AM

Dude!

When he says "I used to support Bush", and then you show a quote saying that he didn't support Bush in 1996,

that is not a contradiction.

He didn't say when he stopped supported Bush in the first quote.

Really, the bloggers did a very good job of piecing together the evidence, but, please, don't start piecing together what doesn't exist.

Posted by: on September 16, 2004 09:13 AM

Ace, don't even bother replying to the illiterate at 9:13 AM. That's what liberal education has done, yikes! No ability to differentiate.

Posted by: BR on September 16, 2004 09:35 AM

More signs point to Burkett as the source…

“Dan Rather in a 9/20/2004 NY Observer article: "Whether one believes it or not, this person believed that he and his family had been harassed and even threatened. We were not able to confirm that, but his fear was that what had already been threats, intimidation, if he gave up the documents, could get worse—maybe a lot worse."

Bill Burkett in an online journal (http://http://onlinejournal.com/bush/031903Burkett/031903burkett.html): “Without a single bit of help, contact and in spite of threats against my life and that of my family…”

Posted by: Joe on September 16, 2004 09:55 AM

Joe - 9/20/2004 ? I know this is a time warp scandal, but today is only the 16th. Perhaps that's their issue date? What's the link to it?

Posted by: BR on September 16, 2004 11:01 AM

Personally, I would have completely supported preventive action against Oklahoma. It might have headed off the ascension of the despot, Bob Stoops.

Posted by: Steve in Houston on September 16, 2004 11:11 AM

Joe - it's the same article I was looking at yesterday at http://nyobserver.com/pages/frontpage1.asp. Today they have their heading dated 9/16/04 8:12 am.

So - yes, you're right about the "threat" theme in both Dan Rather's quote describing his source and in Burkett's own site. That would certainly seem like Rather is referring to Burkett. I still have a feeling Burkett is going to be used as a scapegoat - the "lone nut" in Texas. But we know that's not all there is to it.

Since our WHODUNIT thread with the 101 posts seems to have ended, I'm going to post my biggie again in our latest site, the Shadowy Links. I've corrected some typos in the Globe article's date and clarified some of the earlier wording. If you read it, you'll see the other part of your article which caught my eye.

Posted by: BR on September 16, 2004 11:26 AM

Why am I not allowed to link to a newsgroup posting at google.c0m?

Posted by: Harlan Pepper on September 16, 2004 12:01 PM

Anyways... search for this msgid at googlegroups for some more insight on Mr. Van Os.

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Posted by: Harlan Pepper on September 16, 2004 12:05 PM

Ace,

I found this link on a thread on Free Republic. This is something Burkett himself wrote, posted on Democrats.com, about a month ago. It seems germane to questions of Burkett's involvement in possible forgeries:

http://www.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=23055

The money graf is this:

"I have found no documentation from LTC Killian's hand or staff that indicate that this unit was involved in any complicit way to either cover for the failures of 1LT Bush, or to provide him pay or certification for training not completed. On the contrary, LTC Killians' remarks are rare, indeed, especially considering that 1LT Bush was known clearly as a congressman's son and had utilized his position as such, to gain a favor of his failure to train while in Alabama. I have to believe that earning that favor was completed by false pretenses also due to LTC Killian's officer evaluation comment."

Burkett's own words!

Posted by: mike hollihan on September 16, 2004 01:21 PM

Burkett and Rather act just like they claim Bin Laden and Saddam never would. They don't have to like each other to join together because of their blind hatred of President Bush. I'm sure Saddam and has-bin laden shared the same blind hatred for America that the rather-burkett dynamic duo had for Bush. Rather gave Saddam way more respect when he interviewed him than he ever did President Bush. I'm sure he would've Bin Laden too. Next you will find out they were allies against Bush. The MSM sure has tried to dispute any wmd's were in Iraq and blamed the US for Bin Laden being upset with us. Mr President, it looks like Burkett and Rather aren't with us. When will they be attacked?

Posted by: Gary B. on September 17, 2004 03:51 AM

Burkett is such a loose cannon that he will not be allowed to implicate others. I suspect suicide will be listed as the cause of death.

Posted by: KB on September 17, 2004 05:21 PM

Burkett is such a loose cannon that he will not be allowed to implicate others. I suspect suicide will be listed as the cause of death. I mean, after all, he did have a history of mental instability and depression.

Posted by: KB on September 17, 2004 05:25 PM

The more I think about all this--the obviously phony documents, the supposition that CBS inadvertently left the Kinko's header on copies shown to the National Guard officer in Texas--it wouldn't surprise me if this whole scam was cooked up by the DNC (e.g. Begala) in Washington, knowing that the documents, especially when proven fake, would at least take the spotlight off Kerry's service anamolies--anything dominating the news other than the Swifties charges would be good news for Kerry--and put the spotlight on Bush. For Kerry/DNC/Rather/CBS to leave the Kinko's header on the documents--how thoroughly do you think they examined them before they ever took them to Texas?--was an attempt to "throw the VRWC dogs off the scent," and throw Burkett "to the dogs," who would only be to willing to sacrifice (and finally make a name for) himself in order to "win one for the flipper."

Posted by: KB on September 17, 2004 07:45 PM

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This was her actual complaint. The mushed-up tomato looked like blood so it's a death threat and these violent attacks on me must stop. What is dis bitch, CNN?

Podcast: Sefton and CBD are joined by Jeff Carter, candidate for NV treasurer, and seasoned finance professional, for a discussion of the issues facing Nevadans, and the larger financial challenges in America.

TJM explores the movies of David Lean, director of Lawrence of Arabia

Few people remember that Norm MacDonald began his career as a ventriloquist
MacDonald's old partner Adam Egot revealed that MacDonald repurposed a bit with one of his ventriloquist dolls -- that he was a "bad guy" who "didn't believe the Holocaust happened" -- for the Norm MacDonald show, in which he claimed Egot didn't believe in the Holocaust.

Funniest thing I've read about the Virginia mess. Back when they were hustling the referendum through the assembly both Senators, Warner and Kaine, advised them to go slow and play by the rules. Louise Lucas said she respected them but didn't need advice from the "cuck chair" in the corner. The gerrymandering was overturned and Louise is heading for the big house. Edward G. Robinson voice "where's your cuck now?"
Posted by: Smell the Glove

I posted his post on twitter and it's gotten 25K views so far. Thanks, Smell the Glove

Chris
@chriswithans

"Ahhhhh ahh I put my career on the line for Louise Lucas and Jay Jones thinking they'd vault me into presidential contention and we ended up costing Democrats 20 House seats and unleashing a Reverse Dobbs ahhhhh ahhh"

Forgotten 80s Mystery Click That Sums Up the Democrat Communist Party Today
Something is wrong as I hold you near
Somebody else holds your heart, yeah
You turn to me with your icy tears
And then it's raining, feels like it's raining

TJM wonders about world building in stories, mostly The Hunger Games

"It's f**king f**ked."
-- reportedly a genuine comment offered by a "senior Labour source"
Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held.

Basil the Great
@BasilTheGreat

🚨ED MILIBAND [a Minister in Starmer's government] SAYS KEIR STARMER WILL RESIGN AS PRIME MINISTER

He has reportedly reassured Labour MP's that Starmer will be resigning following the disastrous results tonight

It's over

"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)

No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.

Only a cult does this.

Now they've lost 84%.

Annunziata Rees-Mogg
@zatzi
If this continues Labour loses 2,148 seats tonight.

That is much worse than the worst case predictions I’ve seen.

Cataclysmic

Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.

Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...

The British Patriot
@TheBritLad

🚨 BREAKING: Labour have lost 80% of all seats contested as of 2:25 AM.<
br> If this continues, Keir Starmer will be out of office next week.

Reform has surged and projected to pick up between 1700-2100 seats.

Wow, up to 1700-2100 seats. It's not incredible that this is happening. It's incredible that the Davos crowd is so absolutely determined to privilege Muslim "migrants" over the actual native population who elects them, no matter how loudly the natives scream that they want to be prioritized, that they will gladly self-extinguish as a party rather than simply representing the interests of their own voters. Astonishing.
Remember, when they call other people "cultists" -- they are the ones so imprisoned in their social reinforcement and discipline bubbles that they will choose political death rather than dare upset the Karen Enforcement Officers of their cult.
Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending.

(((Dan Hodges)))
@DPJHodges

Reform are basically wiping Labour out in the North. It's not a defeat. It's not even a rout. Labour are simply ceasing to exist.

Nick Lowles
@lowles_nick

Tonight’s results are calamitous for Labour. Not just for Keir Starmer's leadership, but for the very future of the party

STARMERGEDDON: In early returns, Reform gains 135 seats, Labour loses 90, the Fake Conservatives lose 36 (and I didn't even know they could fall any further), the Lib Dems lose 4, and the Greens gain 6. Note that the only other party gaining seats is the Greens and they're only gaining a handful of seats.
Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98.
Labour projected to lose Wales -- where they've ruled for 27 years.
Fulton County Georgia just discovered 400 boxes of ballots for Labour
Update: REF +156, LAB -107, CON -45
Brutal: In four out of five council seats where Labour is defending, they've lost. 80%.
I'm sure it's not this simple, but Reform is straight taking Labour's and the "Conservatives'" seats. They've lost almost exactly what Reform gained. If understand this right (and warning, I probably don't), all of London's council seats are up for election, and Labour might lose hugely there, as their old voters abandon them for Reform, Muslim Indenpendents, and the Greens.
REF +190, LAB -134, CON -56.

Updates on the Labour collapse in council elections -- which wags are calling #Starmergeddon -- from Beege Welborne. There are about 5000 seats up for grabs, Labour is expected to lose 1,800, Reform will probably gain 1,580, up from... zero. So this would be more than that.
People claim that while Labour has adopted the Sharia Agenda to appeal to the million Muslims it allowed to migrate to the country, those voters are ditching Labour to vote for the Muslim Independent Party or the Greens. Delicious. This shadenfreude is going straight to my thighs.
Oh, and if Starmer loses about as badly as expected, Labour will toss him out of a window Braveheart style and replace him. He will announce he is resigning to spend more time with his Gay Ukrainian Male Prostitutes.

Media bias and senationalism are as old as, well, the media:

That was written by Denny O'Neill and illustrated by, get this, Frank Miller. Editor to the Stars Jim Shooter was in charge at the time.
I always thought the gag was original to the comic book, but in fact the "Threat or Menace" headline was a satirical joke about media bias and sensationalism for a long while. The Harvard Lampoon used it in a parody of Life magazine: "Flying Saucers: Threat or Menace?"

Hamas is Humiliating Trump's 'Board of Peace'
[Hat Tip: TC] [CBD]

Tucker Carlson is pretty sure Trump is a wizard