Hehe. The irony about this is if Kerry does suffer because of Vietnam, it will the ultimate "self-inflicted wound."

I can already see the Cox and Forkum cartoon... Kerry, as Doctor Frankenstein, getting strangled by his monster, labeled "Vietnam record."

I know there've been at least 250 hits since I posted this sucker.

Isn't anyone else impressed by the ad?

I'm asking because I want to get a reality check-- is the ad as devastating as I think it is, or am I just being a rah-rah hack?

Kerry's team will not directly address what his fellow swift boat pilots are saying. They will go after motive--whether [fill in the blank] motive actually exists or not.

I agree with what someone Insta cited who said it is the most devastating ad he'd ever seen. Yeap.

Except for Willie Horton.

Feel free to edit the "I agree" sentence however you see fit.

That's what I think.

BTW, AllahPundit is citing you in his most recent post.

I agree that it's devestating, but it's preaching to the choir with me. I'm RELATED to dimocrats that would vote for Charles Manson if it meant Bush would be gone. It's a sick, twisted world we're living in.

It will probably sway some of the swing voters everybody is so worried about.

Yeah, I just saw that on Allah. Kewell.

No..it's a very effective ad, Ace. I mean, what do you say when the doctor who treated you comes out and says you are full of shit? Most people would give the doctor the benefit of the doubt over the politician anyday, even if Kerry said something about "violating the privacy of his medical records" or something.

The thing that I think is happening is that the blogosphere is really the only outlet that has picked up on it so far. Drudge's story broke in late afternoon/ early evening. So many haven't seen it.

Of those that have on our side of the political divide, it only confirms things we already knew about Kerry and his record, so it doesnt have a lot of impact on us. Plus, I think that there is an expectation that this ad will seldom if ever see the light of day on TV. Honestly, do you think the mainstream media will touch this story? So that puts a damper on things too.

It will be fun to see what happens though. Kerry will have flaks out claiming it's just a bunch of propaganda from people trying to sensationalize a book to make cash. I predict Oliver Walrus will spin it this way tomorrow.

The quote from the medical officer was devastating. These comments about Kerry are anonymous, but on the record comments. How can Kerry survive these ads and the ones you know are coming from his Senate testimony?

There is a real chance Kerry will implode. He's a bubble candidate...the Dems thought he might be able to win, and if it appears that he won't....everyone will turn on him. Even Dems really don't like the guy.

Hannity said he will show the complete ad on Fox tomorrow.

I only got audio, but that sounded pretty harsh. I haven't cared about politics long enough to be able to comment on its relative devastatingness, however.

As Senator Phil said, it doesn't have that much impact on me, because it's all stuff I've heard before. But man, if that thing gets on television... I can see it doing some real damage.

That said, in all seriousness I question the timing of this ad. I really do. There's a lot of time between now and the election. The Democrats have time for both damage control and a counter-attack. It seems like the book could have been used more strategically.

It really is devastating. I wonder if the crack investigative reporters at the alphabet news networks will attempt to verify, or more likely rebut, these very serious charges?

Naaah. They wouldn't dare run a story that would paint their preferred candidate in anything but a warm and fuzzy light.

I think the thing to do is contribute so they can air it. That way the media won't be able to sweep it under the rug.

It gave me goosebumps. It is, bar none, the most compelling political ad I've ever seen (although that's a little like saying "she's the least sluttish crack ho on the corner").

Notwithstanding his service or non service in Vietnam, I spent a year there 1964-1965, Anyone who can rub shoulders with the likes of Hanoi Jane Fonda without throwung up, is not fit to be commander-in-cheif!

the facts are that the swiftboat veterans for truth ads are lies, literally, the people didnt serve with kerry at all, sure they served in vietnam, but never EVER with kerry, and the guy who says he treated his wounds? well that might be true, but there's no way to prove it because his name never once comes up in kerry's medical reports

they're just disgusting little toads who have no moral ethics what so ever

Steve: they absolutely served with Kerry. Swift boats work in groups, very close together. Furthermore, when going back to base at night, these guys all lived together. Finally, at least one of the leading Swiftboat vets actually did serve on Kerry's boat.

I resent you calling 254 decorated war veterans "disgusting little toads."

Furthermore, I resent your adding a comment 7 days after the story in hopes that nobody would see it and call you out on your filthy lies.

Not 7 days, 16. Pretty slimy trick, "Steve."

Of course, the real issue is that the Kerry testimony being used in the ad was proceeded by Kerry's words (read the testimony transcript if you don't believe me): "They told me..". Which is to say that Mr. Kerry's words in the ad are taken out of context and made to sound like his own descriptions, when in actuality he was quoting the descriptions given to him by other soldiers. If this highly important point slips under the radar of dedicated bloggers, then I suppose most Americans will also be misled. Perhaps everyone should read more history books and fewer blogs.

Smack: You are worried about 7 days vs. 16 and which blogger said what when.

It's obvious that some people are more interested in being the first to say something rather than to be the first one to say something intelligent.

Loser.

Which is to say that Mr. Kerry's words in the ad are taken out of context and made to sound like his own descriptions, when in actuality he was quoting the descriptions given to him by other soldiers.

...who were fakes. The whole thing was a sham.

Ok, so what if Kerry stepped on his dick, and continues to jump up and down on it. So what if he is another Jane Fonda. So what if he is a mental midgit who is unfit to be president. Who really GIVES a shit other than wild eyed, lathered up slathering liberal Democrats, the likes of Michail Moore, the Dixie Chicks, and Bruce Springsteen? Get over it, and get ready to start crying when our esteemed National Guardsman George W. Bush again takes command as President and Commander-in-Chief. Being in the National Guard during a war is a dirty, unrewarding job but hey, somebody has to do it. Ha, ha.

I served 19 months in Viet Nam and thanks in part to Kerry and Jane (Hanoi) Fonda, when I came home I was called many unmentionable names. However "Babykiller" did seem to top the list. My car was damaged because I had a military gate past on the bumper. If that is the type of leadership he offers in support of the troops fighting for this country than I want no part of it.

Another thing I don't understand, is why the opponents can claim 254 veterans from the swift boat crews are all lying but the six supporting Kerry are obviously the ones telling the truth.

Finally, I don't understand is why the opponents of Bush condemn his NG service but the same individuals approved Clinton for avoiding service altogether under questionable conditions.

Finally,

Patriotism needs to be truthfully defined. Throughout this election, there have been some respectable, distinguished Vietnam War veterans who have criticized Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry’s actions after his four months of military service. The issue at stake is not whether John Kerry spoke out against the very war he served in, accused others of committing atrocities, or met with North Vietnamese officials in Paris; he did. But, first, is it treasonous to meet with enemy officials in order to negotiate the release of fellow Americans? Certainly not if the American prisoners were freed and the terms of agreement were fair, it is not. The spin from Kerry’s enemies only goes to show that they would try anything to link Kerry to Jane Fonda, whose methods I would not approve of.
Secondly, one cannot say that he had no right to bring to light the actions of a few perverted, conceited people who in no way represented the United States military as a whole. War is hell; it can turn a few smart, intelligent minds into overambitious ones. It can stir never before suffered emotions in a soldier. Sometimes, the emotional effects of war can climb its way up the line of duty. The Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal is a perfect example of how war transforms people for the worse.
Finally, one can also not say that John Kerry had no right, even as an American soldier, to question the validity of the war he fought in for the sake of bringing fellow troops back to safety. For if we do, then that means no one has the right to speak his or her mind and that the government’s authority must never be questioned. And if the authority of governments is considered infallible, then that nullifies our justification of declaring independence from the British monarch, King George III, back in 1776. The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are free to speak their minds about John Kerry’s record, but the American people do not want to sit down and hear anyone vilify the founding principles of the United States of America.
Likewise, it is not unpatriotic to call for reforms in the Patriot Act in order to ensure that civil liberties are still held to the highest degree. It is also not un-American to oppose the means of going to war in Iraq. (We all agreed that Saddam Hussein should go, but how to do so is the issue.) If you cannot arrest a murderer with charges of connections to the mafia without the evidence to back the claims, then how can we convict Saddam Hussein on charges of orchestrating the attacks of September 11th without the proof? President Bush went to war with a faulty arrest warrant. If our country’s arrest warrant is faulty, then how can we be viewed as a credible leader to the world—not just to “Old Europe”, but to the people of “New Europe”, the people of East Asia, the people of the Muslim world, the people of the world? Governments might sway world opinion, but the governed are the ones who actually define it.
Senator Kerry has real solutions: a tax plan that helps the middle and working classes, a health care plan that helps those in need, and a foreign policy plan that can improve the situation in Iraq, reconcile with the people of the world, and win the war against the terrorists. John Kerry is a proven patriot. Patriotism should not be restricted to supporting a current government or its policies; it should go beyond the scope of government and politics.

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