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January 23, 2006

American Meddling in Canadian Elections

Michael Moore is aghast at the thought that Canadians might actually elect a Conservative government.

Oh, Canada -- you're not really going to elect a Conservative majority on Monday, are you? That's a joke, right? I know you have a great sense of humor, and certainly a well-developed sense of irony, but this is no longer funny. Maybe it's a new form of Canadian irony -- reverse irony! OK, now I get it. First, you have the courage to stand against the war in Iraq -- and then you elect a prime minister who's for it. You declare gay people have equal rights -- and then you elect a man who says they don't. You give your native peoples their own autonomy and their own territory -- and then you vote for a man who wants to cut aid to these poorest of your citizens. Wow, that is intense! Only Canadians could pull off a hat trick of humor like that. My hat's off to you.

Far be it from me, as an American, to suggest what you should do. You already have too many Americans telling you what to do. Well, actually, you've got just one American who keeps telling you to roll over and fetch and sit. I hope you don't feel this appeal of mine is too intrusive but I just couldn't sit by, as your friend, and say nothing. Yes, I agree, the Liberals have some 'splainin' to do. And yes, one party in power for more than a decade gets a little... long. But you have a parliamentary system (I'll bet you didn't know that -- see, that's why you need Americans telling you things!). There are ways at the polls to have your voices heard other than throwing the baby out with the bath water.

I love his whole 'I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but PLEASE DON'T!' schtick.

I'm from a part of the country (Maine) that is often accused of being an extension of Canada. As such, I have access to CBC and watched it last night. I don't think Americans have a real sense of how weak the Liberal party really is in Canada. Like the Democratic party here in the United States, the liberals focused their message on the urban areas of the country and ignored the growing discontent with their rule in rural Canada. Add in another liberal party and some surprisingly strong polling by Bloc Québécois, and you have a Liberal loss.

Is there a lesson here for the parties here in the United States?

No, not really.

I mean, it's freaking Canada.

Update By Ace: Pardon My English suggests a new map for Canada.


posted by Slublog at 09:21 AM
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Hah!

What a dimbulb.
Still hasn't heard of this little thing called a 'silent majority.'

Posted by: lauraw on January 23, 2006 09:37 AM

If Canada elects a conservative government, that's it, I'm leaving.

I'm gonna move to MAINE

Posted by: Geddy Lee on January 23, 2006 09:37 AM

I counted four lies in that selection of Moore's text.

1st&2nd lie
you have a great sense of humor, and certainly a well-developed sense of irony.

3rd lie
You declare gay people have equal rights -- and then you elect a man who says they don't.

4th lie
You give your native peoples their own autonomy and their own territory -- and then you vote for a man who wants to cut aid to these poorest of your citizens.

Posted by: Bart on January 23, 2006 09:41 AM

At least Moore didn't offer this advice to those Canadians who might not vote:

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice

.

Posted by: BumperStickerist on January 23, 2006 09:51 AM

"You give your native peoples their own autonomy and their own territory -- and then you vote for a man who wants to cut aid to these poorest of your citizens."

Autonomy is the condition of something or someone that does not depend on anything else.

How can you call someone autonomous if they are receiving aid?

He's not just a hypocritical, fat douchebag. He's an illogical, self-contradicting, hypocritical, fat douchebag.

Posted by: on January 23, 2006 10:02 AM

Not sure how correct this is, over a month later, but this Dec. 16 entry at First Things floated the possibility that gay marriage would be coming up for a vote again if the conservatives won in Canada.

Posted by: Otho Laurence on January 23, 2006 10:08 AM

Canada? I've heard of Canada.

It's a country or an island or something like that, right?

Where is it exactly? Near Scotland?

Posted by: Red Jode on January 23, 2006 10:12 AM

Red, I know some people who say they come from 'Canada', but when I ask them to show me on the map, they can't. They point to some desolate, moose-infested wasteland between Minnesota and Alaska. Yeah, right. Nobody lives there. They must think I'm really gullible.

Posted by: David Gillies on January 23, 2006 10:21 AM

David,

Yep. But its cute isn't it? How they have their own elections and pass their own laws and such.....like it's a reality.

Kind of like the Trekkies man.

Posted by: Red Jode on January 23, 2006 10:30 AM

If Canada actually goes Conservative, I can't wait to re-do the "Jesusland" pic that got circulated last year and throw it right back at some people.

Posted by: Alex on January 23, 2006 10:32 AM

Speaking of problems in Canada. Supremes refused to hear Research in Motion's appeal.

gonna be 'spensive.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 23, 2006 10:47 AM

Dave in Texas, am I misunderstanding this case or did RIM really base their defense on the fact that yes, they did infringe a patent, but its ok because they're running it offshore?

Posted by: BrewFan on January 23, 2006 11:07 AM

And yes, one party in power for more than a decade gets a little...long

Unless, of course, it' MY party. Then they should reign in perpetuity. How come we never heard anyone on the left complain about how "the reigns of power have been in one party's hands for too long" before the 1994 elections?

Posted by: wiserbud on January 23, 2006 11:08 AM

Dave in Texas,

It may not be that big a problem for RIM in the end. The suit is based on three patents held by the plaintiff. Last week the U.S. patent office ruled two of those patents to be invalid and put extra staff on the case of the third to "resolve" the matter.

Sounds like they may be going to throw out the final patent as well.

Posted by: Red Jode on January 23, 2006 11:14 AM

There is a small problem here-that being "conservative" in Canada is not the same as being a "conservative " in the US.
Socialised medicine won't end, Jesus will not be claimed as the rule from which all law should come and I'm sure the new ruling party doesn't have the profit motive to go to war. But if in name only is good enough who am I to argue.

Posted by: Kateinmn on January 23, 2006 11:15 AM

Red, did they invalidate the other 8? In the 2002 case, the court found they violated 11 of 16 NTP patents

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 23, 2006 11:22 AM

So Mikie Moore want to stick his big snout into the elections in CANADA why dont he just stay of hollywood with the rest of the reptiles

Posted by: spurwing plover on January 23, 2006 11:25 AM

Keep, talking Kate. It's that sort of nonsense that has led your party into the political wilderness.

Posted by: Lee Atwater on January 23, 2006 11:41 AM

Dave in Texas,

I dunno. I just read a newspaper article........

Posted by: Red Jode on January 23, 2006 11:55 AM

Well, according to her e-mail address, Kate is only 13, so that explains why she's such an idiot. Hopefully she'll grow out of it.

Posted by: zetetic on January 23, 2006 11:56 AM

kateinmn illustrates the basic problem that lefties have in politics. Bitterness, anger, and misiinformation is obviously not working for them; and yet that's all they really have to offer. Yeesh. Talk about doubling-down on a bad hand....

Posted by: Monty on January 23, 2006 12:14 PM

I guess Michael Moore thinks it's effective to insult his audience repeatedly and then ask them to do somthing his way. It works for the left and its lemmings here in USA, why not Canada? Fascinating.

And wasn't it Quebec that voted recently whether or not to make Fwench its official language? C'est stupide.

Posted by: KevlarChick on January 23, 2006 12:19 PM

Jeez, the patronizing contempt that comes across "But you have a Parliamentary system (I'll bet you didn't know that - see, that's why you need Americans telling you things!)."

I'd vote the other way just to spite the fat slob.

Posted by: Mikey on January 23, 2006 12:20 PM

"Well, according to her e-mail address, Kate is only 13..."

Hey, I resemble that remark.

Posted by: harrison on January 23, 2006 12:27 PM

Moore is such an unadulterated douchebag that he presumes that Canadians are waiting breathlessly for his pronouncements on what they should do in their elections. Yeah, and insults work so well when you are trying to convince someone of your point-of-view. Talk about an idiot with an inflated ego.

I recall a study performed by some folks at Yale which found that incompetent people don't know they are incompetent. I guess gasbags like Moore don't realize they are gasbags too.

Posted by: too many steves on January 23, 2006 12:54 PM

Moore, Moore... Hm. Don't quite remember...

--Hey! Isn't he the guy who helped the Republicans win massive victories in '02 and helped insure GWB's second term in '04?

Posted by: DaveP. on January 23, 2006 01:32 PM

Who's Michael Moore?

Posted by: Bob on January 23, 2006 01:50 PM

So where are all the American libs going to go now that their promised land is going (hopefully) red?

Posted by: Iblis on January 23, 2006 02:13 PM

Just a bit of agressive marketing by Lardass, he gets a enraged, indignant liberal minority up there it just increases the market for his snake oil.

Laughing smugly all the way to the bank.


Posted by: B Moe on January 23, 2006 02:53 PM

I'm wondering why Moore is still referring to himself as an American.

Is it because Krispy Kreme has it's headquarters here in North Carolina and not Toronto?

Posted by: Chad on January 23, 2006 03:33 PM

So where are all the American libs going to go now that their promised land is going (hopefully) red?

May I suggest Bolivia under Evo Morales? Or Venezuela under Hugo Chavez?

Posted by: NCVOL on January 23, 2006 05:31 PM

There's always the Workers' Paradise® of Cuba.

Posted by: zetetic on January 23, 2006 05:50 PM

In the post, Slublog says, "Like the Democratic party here in the United States, the liberals focused their message on the urban areas of the country and ignored the growing discontent with their rule in rural Canada."

True, but unlike the US, the effect of that is muuuuuch greater.

I did a bit of rough research a year or so ago on the urban/rural split in the two countries. I found websites listing (in order) the largest 50 cities in the US and the largest 30 in Canada (data maybe 3 years old, but close enough). Those 50 US cities (from No 1 NY to No 50 Wichita at 355,000) contain 16 percent of the total US population. The 30 Canadian cities (No 1 Toronto to No 30 Moncton at 117,000) contain 66 percent - a full two thirds - of the overall Canadian population! Toronto alone has 16 percent.

So dedicating an election campaign, and for that matter all domestic policies, to the interests and prejudices of the city-folks is usually a winner. (And screw the hicks, as usual.)

But this time, it seems to have had its limits. At least, let's hope so ....

Posted by: Doug on January 23, 2006 07:20 PM

i've had enough of all this canada-bashing

im gonna open the gate here and let a coupla mad cows down into your mean old country

-gotta log off... only get brief spurts of internet service in these igloos

i'll be back

-gord

Posted by: gord on January 23, 2006 08:01 PM
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