Tradition! Tradition!

Peggy Noonan was of course too nice about Uncle Waltet - she should have said:

'He was wrong about Tet and he's wrong about Iraq. His quisling behavior about Vietnam helped precipitate the murders of many millions of innocent people and if we are stupid enough to listen to the quisling again there will be a similiar tragic result.'

Are you really so deluded as to believe that more Americans listen to Nooners than Walter effing Cronkite?

We're working on that, penisshapedsphincter. Of course, the more Cronkite keeps saying stupid shit, the easier the VRWC's job is going to be.

"Watching the old media figures try to remain relevant is actually kind of sad."

Sorry, I just don't have any sympathy for the old moonbat son of a bitch. He still regards sabotaging the US military effort in Vietnam as his proudest moment. And consider where Noonan saw the old f*ck:

"at a New York screening he hosted for a documentary called 'Why We Fight,' a piece of antiwar propaganda . . . [featuring] a former voice of God, Dan Rather, there to lend support to the enterprise."

Rather than feeling "sad," we should be celebrating the irrelevance and downfall of these self-anointed "opinion leaders." Never again, if you please.

Are you really so deluded as to believe he's still influential?

A fun bit of trivia: "krankheit" (pronounced "Cronkite") is German for "sickness." Really.

Cronkite is in Abe Vigoda territory nowadays, people say "Oh my God, I can't believe he's still alive! I mean like seriously! I thought he was dead! Amazing!"

I don't even have a degree, and I'm SORRY you chose "journalism" as a major.

It always struck me that "Journalism" was a self descriptive job. Kinda like "guy who tightens a bolt into a threaded hole"

anybody who speaks, or writes english well, and observes the environment, and is willing to write before getting an opinion for themselves (VERY FEW have that ability) can be a journalist.

for instance Yon. Best Journalist of the war.

Sorry you were lied to before you started your education.

Hey, I got out of it as quickly as I could. First went into PR, then back to college for another degree. Now I'm a bureaucrat working in a government office.

You know, honest work.

As far as Cronkite. . . .I have a question about the addoration of his reporting.

Cronkite didn't turn against the war until he WENT there. That was when he was willing to prostelitize. . . sorry, "comment" about what was going on in viet-nam.

NOW! those people who have been there and are articulate, and had possitive stories have returned, and now that there is a large group of young reporters who were embedded THROUGHOUT the conbat and strife are writing about the good things in Iraq. . . ..They are idiots.

So my question is. . . .WHEN was Cronkite an idiot? When he was sitting in his little studio Analyzing the info in terms of the big picture? or when he "went there" and was trapped with the small mindset?

Either way? it shows his hypocrasy and self-righteousness.

I didn't want to offend you Slub, just inform you of where I was coming from. If that was offensive than fine. Journalism is one of the few "majors" I think is a complete ego trip.

I mean, I told jokes about "Your major is english? You are going to spend 35K a year to major in your native language?" but that was just a joke.

and I was an Engineering major who dropped out to join the Marine Corps, how smart am I? Just wanted to share where I was coming from.

Are you really so deluded as to believe that more Americans listen to Nooners than Walter effing Cronkite?
Posted by scarshapedstar at January 20, 2006 11:31 PM

Let's see what Amazon has to say:

John Paul the Great : Remembering a Spiritual Father by Peggy Noonan #1,077 in Books

On Speaking Well by Peggy Noonan #14,809 in Books

A Reporter's Life by Walter Cronkite #60,754 in Books

Adolfo? Remember that Cronkite had a Monopoly on public opinion until .. . . was it 80?

Noonan was just a brilliant word smith.

Not just RATINGS, lets look at the words they will be remembered for.

"These are the boys of pointe du hoc" Noonan's legacy

"clearly there is no way to win. . . ." Cronkite's legacy

I don't think there is a person who has worn a uniform that doesn't identify with NOONANS words, more than Cronkites.

Cronkite has had more balls across his nose than a circus seal...
He is the consumate apologist, the ultimate defeatist.
Fuck that traitor.
He has had far too many years of life, compared to the many young American lives he so lightly sold down the river.
There truly is no justice.

That guy is plastered all over my alma mater's promotional ads. This is embarrassing.

Then again, we beat USC, so it's really OK.

Are you really so deluded as to believe that more Americans listen to Nooners than Walter effing Cronkite?

More Americans listen to my uncle's chiropractor than Walter effing Cronkite.

Thanks adolfo- I was trying to find circulation numbers on their respective columns, but my google-fu was weak.

Of course scar actually specified "listens to", so we really should compare Noonans speaking tours, TV appearances, ect to Cronkite being dragged out for "Big" movie premeries of what, a thousand people?

Hey Starfish Trooper-

I work for CBS, and even we don't listen to Cronkite... irrelevance has been extremely hard for him to adapt to.

Give me Noonan any day of the week... intelligent writing that isn't given to hysteria or cheap shots.

tmi3rd

Considering how union officials buy thousands of copies of books that are written by self avowed liberals the sales numbers are not nearly that important. Take Bill and Hill for example. there is a warehouse in Jersey that houses cases of each of their books, they someday will make it to the recycling plant and become a months worth of the NYT.

irrelevance has been extremely hard for him to adapt to.

Oh, I almost laughed myself sick the other day about that--I heard him quoted as saying that he misses working and anytime CBS wants him to come back, he's ready.

..and that's the way it is.

Is this thing on?

Hello, anybody there?

shut up pimp

Laura-

You'd think that after Dan "sure, you can trust me" Rather forced him out, he'd have gotten the hint... guess not.

We've had more than our share of discussions on people who think they're astonishingly brilliant because they can read words scrolling in front of them... that are dumbed down so they fit on any given line.

If only it weren't so damn fun...

tmi3rd

For all your youngins out there who didn't live in the dinosaur age (pre-cable) its hard to imagine just how influential Cronkite was. Not accurate, but hugely influential. The big 3 had a literal lock on information and how it was presented.

Its so funny now to listen to the left whine about talk radio, Fox and right wing blogs. They had decades of absolute control of the news and its only now when you look back on it do your realize how the country got so off course.

Thanks pant loads Uncle Walt. Now go take your nap.

I will take Cronkite over those facist at FAUX News any day. As for Peggy "I cant keep my hand out of my hair" Noonan. She wrote some good soundbites and speeches for an aging actor/slash President. Any Hollywood sitcom writer could have done that.

I will take Cronkite over those facist at FAUX News any day.

Good for you. How's that "separation of whites and blacks" plan working out for you?

Wayne, you're that faux is pronounced "foe," right?

And by the way, it's spelled "fascist."

I really hate having to educate trolls. It never takes anyway.

Wayne, you're aware that faux is pronounced "foe," right?

And by the way, it's spelled "fascist."

I really hate having to educate trolls. It never takes anyway.

So his spelling is a little off a little but his sentence structure is top notch.

Wayne,
writing sound bites for an inbred Arkansan is a different story. Now that's a fricken job. That speech writer had to marry a conservative to help him with his insurmountable task.

Frankly, I don't care much for Noonan. She just talks too much. But, Cronkite is the walking dead.

That's true. I wonder how many speeches Wayne's written for Presidents.

Thanks loads, Walt. Didn't you get the memo?

You are damaging the credibility of former CBS anchors. Do I have to be the only one to carry the torch of truth forward?

Courage!

Yeah- what Frank said, Wally. your career is deader than me and Frank.

If it weren't for the guest restrictions we'd invite you to join us for golf tommorrow.

Seems you have a tee time scheduled sometime in the future for that other club, though.

Say hi to Ho Chi Minh for us.
Oh yeah, dress lightly.

"...for an aging actor/slash President."

Apparently,comma we are spelling out our punctuation.period

Shouldn't that be "...for an aging actor/slash President.Period"

What is it with our resident libruls and Walter Cronkite lately?

They are acting like everyone in flyover country is hanging on every word out of Uncle Walter's mouth. "Ooooo, Walter Cronkite talked trash about the Iraq War. You saw what happened in 1968 - Chimpy Bushitler McHalliburton's war is over!"

Walter Cronkite retired twenty-five years ago. His influence on Middle America retired about then, too.

Hey Zitetic, or is it Zetetic. So I didn't use my spell check. I stand corrected. You must really get off on correcting trolls. Do you even have a life? Why dont you go and find a cousin to date or something?

And Scott as for my sentence structure. I bet it's good enough to write a speech for the current occupant of the white house. Your boy dubya would really appreciate my poor sentence structure. -I think I stumbled into the librarians blog- Anyway, keep up the good work. Way to hold us trollers to perfect English on the net. Whew!!

Kevlar, the inbred Arkansan has an Ivey league education that he actually earned. Unlike little dubya who had to have big dubya pulling all kinds of strings to help him maintain a C average.

Did I cover all of you? Whoops; one more thing. Zitec, you said Faux is pronounced Foe. What's your point? The news on that propaganda station is still false whether it's pronounced fee fie foe or fum.

It's "Ivy League"

Thanks Dave in Texas. "Dont mess with Texas"

It's "don't"