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January 19, 2006

Do Pornography College Courses Have Intellectual Merit?

Ummm....is that a trick question?

No?

Oh well, ok.....

[M]y class explored the terrain of Madonna’s music videos. Our first observation: Madonna exposed her breasts. No surprise there. But she did it while wearing a tuxedo jacket. Hmm. The professor’s analysis? Madonna was deconstructing masculinity and femininity.

Years later, I still think Madonna was simply exposing her breasts.

I tend to think she is right, but what do I know? I am just an unwashed heathen who went to an engineering school. Obviously the merits of porn go right over my head.

Because the more someone understands pornography’s social implications and manipulative tactics, the better someone can deconstruct these cultural messages. Knowledge is power. Without it, we are hapless puppets to any industry keen on seducing us.

Actually lady, it is easy to understand and you do not need a college class. Sex sells. Duh.

I doubt the porn barons sit around after a particularly steamy scene, the scent of Astroglide heavy in the air and ponder the social and cultural significance of their line of work.

It's all about the dollars and somehow I just do not see how you can make a college class about that, unless it is an economics class. In that case, it makes perfect sense.


posted by WunderKraut at 10:34 PM
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Diane Glass, put your mouth where my money is. If you'e going to go on about how trendy and acceptable porn is, give us the money shot. I mean, what good is an online article praising porn without a little bukkake.

Posted by: Biff Boff on January 19, 2006 10:53 PM

don't get me started again.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle on January 19, 2006 10:56 PM

Biff Boff -

Exactly. How can we trust what comes out of her mouth until we see what she puts in it.

Posted by: steve_in_hb on January 19, 2006 11:00 PM

That reminds me, Sparkle, I need to check your site to see if Dave said "booger."

Posted by: Michael on January 19, 2006 11:01 PM

Don't make a fooshie maniac out of me!

That was more of a goose and gander observation. If she thinks porn is so mainstream, make a living at it for a few years, then tell us all about. Better still, let us know after your daughter has been in it for a few years.

Posted by: Biff Biff on January 19, 2006 11:04 PM

Dave in Texas,

Paul Anka?

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle on January 19, 2006 11:06 PM

Dave in Texas:

Fooshie?

Paul Anka would rip his own throat out before he said "fooshie" instead of "fuckin"!

Posted by: Michael on January 19, 2006 11:08 PM

I actually don't have anything against porn. I just don't want to set off RightWingSparkle. I'm holding on to that creamy golden goodness of my mental image of her. You're a bad girl aren't you (not Feist bad, but, you know, kind of naughty).

Seriously, I know how to drastically reduce the amount of adult content in the world. Want to know the answer? It's awesome. A truly conservative approach.

Posted by: Biff Boff on January 19, 2006 11:13 PM

Michael,

Mr. Paul Anka is all about the respect to the ladies.

RWS,

You have got to catch up. Check out The Paul Anka Integrity Kick. It's like, I dunno, the Pentatuch around here.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 19, 2006 11:15 PM

Dave in Texas,

Ah, I shoulda known. A reference lost on me.

Biff Boff,

I would love to hear your idea.

I am never naughty, but I do have an evil twin that sometimes posts in my name.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle on January 19, 2006 11:18 PM

the guy shows up with a secret plan and she's all over it.

amazing.

Biff, you rock.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 19, 2006 11:21 PM

Ok, how to drown porn. The problem is not in how to better restrict it. It's in how to less restrict it. If you climb over Jennifer Aniston's fence and take a couple of pics of her spectacular tits (and they are amazingly nice for her age), she would sue you and win. But take the same picture when she's walking down the street, she could not (and you need to tell me where that street is).

The difference is that the street is a public place. If you look at all depictions of the act of procreation as a biological function of all human beings, then you can view it as inherently public in its nature. Therefore, you should not be able to own it. Legislation that declared this would all but kill the industry of producing porn.

Go ahead and hire some hookers and some clown to make a flick. You cannot stop anyone from copying it, distributing it or displaying it. You simply can't own it at all. How long will you produce it when you can't own it, and, therefore, cannot make mony off of it?

It's not a perfect solution, especially at first. But ultimately, I think it could reduce its production.

Posted by: Biff Biff on January 19, 2006 11:30 PM
I doubt the porn barons sit around after a particularly steamy scene, the scent of Astroglide heavy in the air and ponder the social and cultural significance of their line of work.
Well, you might just be surprised.
Posted by: Sean M. on January 19, 2006 11:35 PM

Astroglide has a scent? Who knew.

I always buy the cheap generic stuff. No smell.

Posted by: AmesJay on January 19, 2006 11:44 PM

I wanted to elaborate a bit on the point about Madonna showing her breasts and what it all meant.

WAY back in a high school English class the teacher kept going on and on about the meaning of some William Faulkner novel we had just read.

I raised my hand and asked a simple question, one I still want an answer to: Maybe the guy wrote it because he wanted to tell a story. How do you know that he did not write it for pure entertainment purposes? What if there IS no grand meaning? Maybe it is just a nice story. Why does everything HAVE to have meaning?

Needless to say, that did not go over very well.

Posted by: WunderKraut on January 20, 2006 07:17 AM

I had a lit instructor give a lecture about one of Frosts poems being an allegory about nazis. The poem was written in 1918. He was NOT thrilled when this was pointed out. He'd written is thesis on that allegory.

Posted by: rabidfox on January 20, 2006 08:38 AM

PIMF Last sentence: is = his

Posted by: rabidfox on January 20, 2006 08:39 AM

rabidfox,

That is classic man!

Posted by: WunderKraut on January 20, 2006 08:49 AM

Has reptiles like LARRY FLINT and HUGH HEFFNER earned their collage degrees by filming the crappy stuff. Its time to snuff heffners pet bunny

Posted by: spurwing plover on January 20, 2006 08:55 AM

But she did it while wearing a tuxedo jacket. Hmm. The professor’s analysis? Madonna was deconstructing masculinity and femininity.

My analysis is that the thrift shop near the shoot had a cool looking tuxedo jacket that fit and cost $5.

The latter Madonna videos had more production values - for example, if Madonna were to reshoot "Borderline", she'd take a can of spray paint to a Bentley or a LearJet - but the early videos were more about exploring feminity than deconstructing the two.

.

Posted by: BumperStickerist on January 20, 2006 08:56 AM

How do you know that he did not write it for pure entertainment purposes? What if there IS no grand meaning? Maybe it is just a nice story. Why does everything HAVE to have meaning?

Ya know I posted a similar comment here during a discussion of the hidden Christian allegorical references in Lord of the Rings. I said something to the affect that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. My analysis was not well received. This despite the fact that Tolkein said as much when the book was originally published.

Bunch of story nazis.

Posted by: JackStraw on January 20, 2006 10:01 AM

I have seen the nipple on your soul.

-Thomas Jefferson

Posted by: lauraw on January 20, 2006 10:12 AM

The Paul Anka Integrity Kick is all audio, isn't it? Has it ever been transcribed?

Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 20, 2006 10:21 AM

Do not bite at the bait of pleasure till you know there is no hook beneath it.

- Thomas Jefferson

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 20, 2006 10:21 AM

Has it ever been transcribed?

Don't know - here is a pretty funny interview Terry Gross did with Anka on it. She really expected him to be embarrassed about it - unsurprisingly to those of us who respect Mr. Paul Anka, he is not embarrassed.

* = o

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 20, 2006 10:29 AM

dude, that's also audio...or at least it appears to be; I don't see a link for text.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 20, 2006 10:43 AM

Madonna's wearing a tuxedo jacket in that video was no doubt her lame and doomed-to-fail attempt to mimic Marlene Dietrich, a woman who unlike Madonna actually was extremely sexy (in an age in which that, unlike today, could actually be somewhat dangerous), and to boot could also act.

Dietrich is an icon, Madonna apes icons.

Posted by: Ken Begg on January 20, 2006 06:29 PM
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