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January 13, 2006

Marmalard? Dead! Needermeyer? Dead! Al-Zawahiri... Dead?

Massive attack may have killed Al Qaeda #2 in Pakistan:

.S. officials told NBC News on Friday that American airstrikes in Pakistan overnight Thursday were aimed at the No. 2 man in the al-Qaida terror organization — Ayman al-Zawahri.

One official said intelligence indicated a strong possibility that Zawahri was in the Pakistani village at the time of the airstrike, but there is no confirmation that he was killed.

Pakistani officials say U.S. aircraft, apparently CIA Predator drones, fired as many as 10 missiles at the residential compound.

...

The CIA Predators carry as many as four Hellfire missiles. Only last month, the CIA used a Predator to kill the No. 3 man in al-Qaida in a similar Hellfire strike in Pakistan.

...

While some remains were reportedly recovered from the site of the attack, there was still no confirmation Friday night that Zawahri was among the dead. An intelligence official told NBC that it does have a sample of Zawahri's DNA.

Not Just Al-Zawahiri: Even if we missed him, we got others:

Eighteen people were killed, according to the villagers who said women and children were among the fatalities.

But Pakistani officials tell ABC News that five of those killed were high-level al Qaeda figures, and their bodies are now undergoing forensic tests for positive identification.

Thanks to BrewFan.


posted by Ace at 08:16 PM
Comments



I've been heart-broken before.
Please don't tease me.

Posted by: harrison on January 13, 2006 08:19 PM

Dean Wormer is dead.
Really. He is.

Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 08:22 PM

Hellifire means happiness when you're talking about AQ scumbags. Here's hoping the cooling chunks of Al-Zawahiri's body are furnishing a filling meal for the stray dogs of the area.

Posted by: Monty on January 13, 2006 08:28 PM

Another report had villagers saying these planes had been circling the area for days. So, if you were Mr. #2 Terrorist wouldn't you get the hell out of dodge? But, then you might end up like this:
Smudge in the desert

Posted by: shawn on January 13, 2006 08:32 PM

I don't even want to think about what that DNA sample could be, or where we got it.

Posted by: CraigC on January 13, 2006 08:35 PM

Uhh... 2 or 3 Hellfire missiles is not a massive attack, but my fingers are crossed.

Posted by: RiverRat on January 13, 2006 08:37 PM

Hellfire missiles are like Brylcreem, RiverRat. A little dab'll do ya.

Posted by: Monty on January 13, 2006 08:39 PM

I wonder if his recent videorecording release had anything to do with this strike?

Posted by: scootran on January 13, 2006 08:45 PM

I question the timing.

Posted by: Brad on January 13, 2006 09:11 PM

NO PRISONERS!!

Posted by: Bluto Blutarsky on January 13, 2006 09:14 PM

You know, I actually felt a little sorry for Zawahiri when I read that letter he wrote to Zarqawi. I got the impression of a terribly earnest individual who truly believes what he says.

And then I remembered he was an f'n terrorist.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 09:15 PM

It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes.

Posted by: rw on January 13, 2006 09:29 PM

We didn't quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, did we?

Posted by: Seven Years of College Down the Drain on January 13, 2006 09:29 PM

I am not a lurker.

I like dead zawahirizimohamu, whatever, guys.

Posted by: Franklinstein on January 13, 2006 09:42 PM

Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.

Posted by: Eric Stratton on January 13, 2006 09:47 PM

"Here's hoping the cooling chunks of Al-Zawahiri's body are furnishing a filling meal for the stray dogs of the area."

Please, a little cultural sensitivity! Better that he be "a filling meal for the stray [pigs] of the area." Remember, Muslims despise swine as unclean. I'd love to know Al-Zawahiri's remains were exiting the alimentary canal of that "most filhy" of animals.

Posted by: Redhand on January 13, 2006 09:54 PM

No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.

And we're just the guys to do it.

Posted by: bbeck on January 13, 2006 10:04 PM

"Excuse me, could I buy 10,000 marbles?"

Posted by: Flounder on January 13, 2006 10:06 PM

I think I'm in love with a retard.

Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 10:17 PM

al jazeera is reporting him dead.

Posted by: shawn on January 13, 2006 10:19 PM

Greg, look at my thumb.

Posted by: Otter on January 13, 2006 10:22 PM

Otter, you're such a jackass. Making out with my friend when my body's not even cold yet? Asshole.

Posted by: Fawn Liebowitz on January 13, 2006 10:24 PM

I wanna believe. Of course, this won't forestall any "He said he would get Osama, so where is he?" arguments from the libs.

Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 10:25 PM

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

Posted by: Dean Wormer on January 13, 2006 10:28 PM

"I think I'm in love with a retard."

Is he bigger than me?

"Greg, look at my thumb."

Gee, you're dumb.

Posted by: bbeck on January 13, 2006 10:50 PM

you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes! You fucked up - you trusted us! Hey, make the best of it! Maybe we can help

Posted by: Otter on January 13, 2006 10:56 PM

Still want to show me your cucumber?

Posted by: Mrs Wormer on January 13, 2006 11:01 PM

bbeck, it's not gonna be an orgy. It's a toga party.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 11:03 PM

You can take your thumb out of my ass any time now, Carmine.

Posted by: Mrs Wormer on January 13, 2006 11:03 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 11:11 PM

bbeck, it's not gonna be an orgy. It's a toga party.

I'll write you a note. I'll say you're too well to attend.

Posted by: bbeck on January 13, 2006 11:15 PM

Is this true of more false reporting by DAN RATHER?

Posted by: spurwing plover on January 13, 2006 11:16 PM

is that really bbeck?

Let me give you a hint. She's got a couple of major-league yabbos.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 11:17 PM

Hey spurwing, Bart's been looking for you.

Ever check your email?

Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 11:17 PM

Spurwing, hold still while Bart clips this radio tag to your tail.
Its only gonna hurt for a second.

HE'S RUNNING! WE GOT A RUNNER!

Get a dart in him! Hurry up, he's getting away!

Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 11:27 PM

POOOOOFT


dart sound

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 11:29 PM

Let me give you a hint. She's got a couple of major-league yabbos.

Beverly!

Posted by: bbeck on January 13, 2006 11:39 PM

No. But you're getting warmer. Here's another: "Oh God, Oh God, OH GOD!"

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 11:42 PM


Picture this:

President Bush in SotU:
"Thanks to an NSA intercept of Zawahiri's phone, we sent him into the afterlife postage due."

With a big grin.

Posted by: Al on January 13, 2006 11:45 PM

Marlene? You're going to pork Marlene Desmond?

Posted by: bbeck on January 13, 2006 11:53 PM

I anticipate a deeply religious experience.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 11:56 PM

while I hope they did kill him, I must say that I would have rather have had him with troops, so they could have Impaled this scumbag so they could take pictures of him Impaled and sent them on to al jazeera, with a nice message attached to it... Something like "and for the rest of you AQ scum, we are working our way up and down the list from the top and the bottem, Sooooo Sleep Tight."

Posted by: Jeff on January 14, 2006 12:07 AM

As long as we get a picture like Ahmed Yassin, I'm cool.
(graphic content)

Posted by: Iblis on January 14, 2006 12:33 AM

"That boy is a P I G, pig."
"See if you can guess what I am now!"

Posted by: doc on January 14, 2006 12:58 AM

Heeeeey, you fucked up! You trusted us!

Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 01:07 AM

Wait'll Allah sees us! HE LOVES us!

Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 01:08 AM

In lieu of anymore lame Animal House quotes, let me just say....Have you ever looked at your hand? No, I mean really looked at it?

Posted by: CraigC on January 14, 2006 01:09 AM

{SMACK} Than you sir, may I have another!

Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 01:11 AM

lame Animal House quote

Sir, I must adamantly ask, is there a "lame" Animal House quote?

Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 01:13 AM

Whilst you were distracted by Animal House jokes, Spurwing has flown the coop. The Quest continues . . .

Posted by: Michael on January 14, 2006 01:15 AM

He can't do that to our pledges. Only we can do that to our pledges!

Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 01:16 AM

Cheney: Cut the horseshit, son. I've got their disciplinary files right here. Who dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into the swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the alumni dinner? Every Halloween, the trees are filled with underwear. Every spring, the toilets explode.

Bush: You're talking about al Qaeda, sir.

Cheney: Of course I'm talking about al Qaeda, you TWERP!

Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 01:18 AM

War is over, man. Bush dropped the big one.

(I know, this is getting silly, but damn, I missed the fun and you all missed the best lines!)

Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 01:21 AM

FOOD FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

(okay, maybe that one isn't so funny, but give a brother a break, it's 1 AM and I've had a few...)

Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 01:24 AM

Greg, honey, is it supposed to be this soft?

Posted by: doc on January 14, 2006 01:31 AM

''....I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it! ''

''....No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.''

''.....Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now. ''
....
'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!

~Monty Python's Dead Parrot skit


Posted by: George Galloway on January 14, 2006 01:48 AM

I gave my love a cherry . . .

Posted by: Steven Bishop on January 14, 2006 02:03 AM

Swrek jnf gagv jknuy dasf.

Dsxfv fr ghbet.

sgha.

Posted by: Brad Pitt in "Snatch" on January 14, 2006 02:12 AM

Spurwing Plover is Keyser Sose. I'm certain of it.

Posted by: Ed Snate on January 14, 2006 02:38 AM

Look at you people! Innocent Women and Children wee killed in an effort to kill a man of peace. We're no better than the terrorists! Allhu Snackbar!

Posted by: Cindy Sheehan on January 14, 2006 03:28 AM

I'm sorry Cindy, but when I see your name all I can think of is Gutfeld's blog

"i have lost interest in cindy shaheen since she stopped wearing the hat. i was hoping that when she finally removed the hat, there would be a smaller hat underneath. and so on, like those russian dolls. but instead of dolls, there would be hats. adorable gardening hats"

Posted by: steve_in_hb on January 14, 2006 07:16 AM

"Mind if we dance with your dates?"

Posted by: Large Man on January 14, 2006 09:19 AM

Close. But it was more like:

"Do you mind if we dance wif yo dates?"

Posted by: Log Cabin on January 14, 2006 09:45 AM

Doooly noted, wif apologies

Posted by: Large Man on January 14, 2006 10:57 AM

Ah, nuts, looks like we missed him.

Posted by: geoff on January 14, 2006 12:44 PM

"What are you majoring in?"

"WHAT?

"WHAT ARE YOU MAJORING IN?"

"PRIMITIVE CULTURES"

Posted by: OregonMuse on January 14, 2006 01:09 PM

"Do you mind if we dance wif yo dates?"
Why no, not at all.

If I was you boys I'd be uh...
Leaving! What a good idea!

Posted by: doc on January 14, 2006 01:24 PM

Dean Wormer was wrong .........

Fat, drunk, and stupid is a great way to go through life.

Posted by: sqlserver on January 14, 2006 01:37 PM

There is no Keyser Soze!

Posted by: Dean Keaton on January 14, 2006 09:32 PM
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