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Helpful Tips for the Survival of the Human RaceAllow me to distill it down for you: 1. We're doomed. We're going to run out of food. 2. Food production is also contributing to our demise. Remember, things are always worse than you can possibly imagine. Here's my favorite line from the article: But the fact that plants produce methane does not mean that planting forests is a bad idea. Yeah. Trees. Love how they ended on a positive note. posted by LauraW. at 05:05 PM
CommentsOooh. The new format gives me a byline. I kind of preferred ti when people thought I was Ace, because then I could blame shit on him. Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 05:12 PM
Silly scientists. Of course plants emit methane. The wetlands are a significant producer of methane, which is why they're something fun to bring up when talking to environmentalists. You simply ask the environmentalist his opinion on wetland preservation and on the greenhouse effect, then inform him that methane is a highly potent greenhouse gas and wetlands produce tons of it. Then sit back and watch as his head spins and he shrieks, "I am Nomad I must destroydestroyARGGGHH!" Good times. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 05:22 PM
Isn't it funny how each time you hear about how we will bring about our own destuction it is always by different means. no food, global warming, nuclear war, and so on. I think this fall under the old rule of if you say a thing enough times eventually you might be right. Or a broken clock is right twice a day. Pick your own metaphor. The point is...well I am not sure what my point is other than to say I know we will destroy areselves but we will think we meant to do it that way. Posted by: t3rrible on January 13, 2006 05:22 PM
The old one gave you a "posted by" at the bottom, but it was much smaller and didn't have a hump. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 05:31 PM
Two words: Soylent Green. Problem solved. Posted by: Brian B on January 13, 2006 05:33 PM
It seems like everything old is new again. Back when our ancestors were emerging from their caves, they felt lonely and starte worshipping the dirt. These dirt-worshippers thought that some sort of nature god got mad when it rained, snowed, was dry, hot or cold. Today, the elite have abandoned Christianity and are back worshipping the dirt. With global warming being the machina ex deus for everything. One thing is for sure, these dirt worshippers have a lot of doomsday scenarios. They say us Catholics are engaged in a religion of guilt, but at least we never tried zero-population-growth, so that we could protect the trees. Every human endeavor is a sin for these guys. Maybe even driving a Prius. Ok, I'll stop now. Posted by: joeindc44 on January 13, 2006 05:34 PM
Worrying about food production ability is just silly. But global warming silliness aside, pollution is a huge problem which worries me a lot. Leftists seem to promote statism as a solution. Aside from being inhumane (and occasionally racist), it's also just not gonna happen. At best, they could preserve the status quo, which is polluting at a nasty rate. The world needs to get richer so we can buy our way into solutions for these problems. People need to be rich enough so that they can afford the luxury of caring about the environment. It's just not a priority for somebody struggling to put food on the table. And we need big advances in material sciences and manufacturing. We need better energy sources and lower power consumption. Like the environmentalists, I'm very unhappy at all the pollution going on. Unlike the environmentalists, I support solutions which are likely to actually work in the real world. Posted by: SJKevin on January 13, 2006 05:36 PM
Richard Pryor called it back in 1975: "Some white person said 'Holy shit, cut the crap, there's too many f*cking people! I have no place to ride my horsey!" Posted by: Alex on January 13, 2006 06:00 PM
It's funny how when you try to present evidence that things aren't as bad as they seem, the enviro wackos have a monkey fit. You'd think people who were so concerned about the environment would breathe a sigh of relief at evidence that things aren't as bad as they think. Instead, they get pissed. How dare we suggest we are not on the verge of extinction, and provide proof to boot! I work with an enviro-wacko, and he's got kids. I keep wondering what he tells his kids when he tucks them in at night. "Good night little Johnny. And remember, just ten more years until we all run out of food and starve to death and choke on a poison sky thanks to the evil ChimpyMcBushHaliburton monsters." Posted by: CT on January 13, 2006 06:03 PM
I remember 7th-grade biology class. Our teacher told us we wouldn't live to see our 30th birthdays. Good times. Posted by: Pompous on January 13, 2006 06:13 PM
They're channeling those downer 1970's sci-fi flicks where man was always ruining the environment and then ending up in some Nacho Soylent Chips bag because the corn harvest failed. Make room! Make room! Malthus was right after all! Woe! Posted by: Monty on January 13, 2006 06:26 PM
And you keep sayin' over and over and over again, mry friend, that you don't believe We're on the Eve of Destruction? You want to know how it's all going to happen? You want to know how it's all going to come down? I'll tell you how man! It's going to be the ants man. Ants man. Those little freakin 6-legged Frankfurt school communists are going to rise up one day turn us all into ant food. Keep your eyes open man. They're watching us. They're everywhere man. Every freakin' where. Posted by: Red Jode on January 13, 2006 06:37 PM
Paul Ehrlich, please call your office. Posted by: Sean M. on January 13, 2006 06:44 PM
I have read somewhere (can't cite right now) that the number one cause of greenhouse gases are termites. A close second is cattle. (defecation) Posted by: rls on January 13, 2006 07:41 PM
Sean, the reviews on that link are wonderful. Especially the lefty screed. Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 07:45 PM
The reason y'all are confused is you're getting your cause all crossed up with your effect. The environuts aren't opposed to modern life to protect the enviroment, they claim to want to protect the enviroment because they're opposed to modern life. They see appeals to fuzzy critters and dire predictions over global warming as a way to con most people into giving up the comforts of modernity. That's why they react so strongly when you point out good enviromental news: It threatens their goals. It's also why they're so pissed at the US over Kyoto, we told them to taking a flying leap and when we start outproducing every country that's signed on the Kyoto Protocols will go to the dustbin of history. Posted by: MMDeuce on January 13, 2006 07:56 PM
The absolute best book on this subject is called the Skeptical Environmentalist. It is by a former member of Greenpeace. He shows the true stats and facts and where we really need to focus. I highly reccomend this book to every conservative. It gives us the facts to smack these people down when they spout garbage. Posted by: Silk on January 13, 2006 08:01 PM
SJKevin and Silk are dumb as hell. KJKevin says "People need to be rich enough so that they can afford the luxury of caring about the environment. It's just not a priority for somebody struggling to put food on the table. And we need big advances in material sciences and manufacturing. We need better energy sources and lower power consumption." Silk- instead of reading some BS propaganda, right-wing book why don’t you do think for yourself. Ever wonder why pregnant mothers and young children are told not to eat fish…mercury in the water dumb-ass. Keep sticking your head in the sand and let the pollution pile up in your water, food, and air. Posted by: truthiness on January 13, 2006 08:38 PM
Truthiness, I totally agree with you. And I think they are gay, too. Posted by: Timmy in the Well on January 13, 2006 08:42 PM
Hey shit for brains, rich people don't care about the environment. Yes, forget about your standards of living and education and stuff. To save the earth, what we need here is some sort of massively intrusive government regulations and we need to FORCE the rich people of the world to pay for it. Sign over your wealth with Kyoto today, bitches! Stop acting like capitalism and wealth generation are the keys to getting people to invest in the long term. Because we all remember how great the environmental record of the old USSR was. It's like literacy in Cuba. Perfect! Posted by: Sortelli on January 13, 2006 08:53 PM
Of course, with a name like "truthiness", his post might have been as sarcastic as mine. Who knows? Posted by: Sortelli on January 13, 2006 08:54 PM
F'n Johnny Come Latelys. I was here first. Posted by: Fake, but accurate on January 13, 2006 08:55 PM
They do it because people who do care force governments to pass laws. Those laws get passed because we can afford to pass them. You are aware that we're a democracy, I assume? Posted by: SJKevin on January 13, 2006 08:56 PM
What everybody forgets is we will all be driving non-fossil fuel vehicles in 50 years. So just mellow, all you enviro-dudes and dudettes. Posted by: Dogstar on January 13, 2006 09:37 PM
I recently visited the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Clash's London Calling became stuck in my head. The chorus is interesting considering the environmentalists' fears today. The ice age is coming, the sun is zooming in The Ice Age baby. Beware the impending Ice Age. Posted by: Dale on January 13, 2006 09:41 PM
The envioronMentalistas are against everything -- windmill farms, nukular energy, solar power. Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 10:02 PM
"truthiness" lives in a mud hut and walks to work in a coolie hat and carved wooden sandals. Dumbfuck Commie. Posted by: Sue Dohnim on January 13, 2006 10:17 PM
No, no, truthiness is correct. Because after all its the rich countries that have the worst environmental situations. The rich people are driving their enormous SUV's through all this hip-deep trash all the time, and the last time I went to the river for drinking water, people were crapping in it and I got a vicious case of dysentery. Furthermore, all this manufacturing waste lying around and leaking into ditches is downright nasty. When I manage to catch a frog to eat it, you never know what it may have absorbed. And the smokestacks! Good Lord, the smokestacks! The air is thicker than gravy around here! Numbnuts. People only become concerned with the environment when they are well fed and sheltered. Its waaaay down the list of importance to folks in developing nations who are struggling to survive. If you want to help the environment, you have to help people up first. All the nice laws against pollution in the world won't do squat. Help them industrialize. Help them increase their trade with the rest of the world and build infrastructure to improve the standard of living. Clean water from the tap. Electricity. Plastics. Modern medicine. Big wide paved roads and huge honkin' trucks. Stuff like that. Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 10:28 PM
Chewy, gooey, truthiness missed SJKevin's point: SJK was referring to being wealthy enough to have risen above the first few tiers in the Maslowian hierarchy of needs, not being luxury SUV-rich. Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 10:34 PM
Dont let the eco-wackos at GREENPEACE involved they want us all to go the way of the dodo they want all humans extinxct Posted by: spurwing plover on January 13, 2006 11:20 PM
Yeah. Trees. Those plants you can't eat.Sometimes comparing apples and oranges is a good idea. Posted by: Bob Munck on January 14, 2006 12:53 AM
Sometimes comparing apples and oranges is a good idea. Yes, many's the time I wandered through the apple or orange forest thinking how harmonius nature was in producing methane and food simultaneously. Posted by: geoff on January 14, 2006 12:57 AM
The absolute best book on this subject is called the Skeptical Environmentalist. You may also want to read State of Fear by Michael Crichton. Excellent book that rips apart the inane arguments of the enviro-nuts and the lunatic movement that they support. Trust me, after reading this, you will never read a headline that includes the words "global warming" the same again. OT: lauraw, I'm also a citizen of the Nutmeg state. Nice to "meet" another one of us reasonable people toughing it out in this state of chaos! Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 12:57 AM
Sometimes comparing apples and oranges is a good idea. You know what's even better? Combining them. With mixed greens. Posted by: Slublog on January 14, 2006 01:00 AM
Hey wiserbud, we're in Central CT, near the Hartford area. You? Posted by: lauraw on January 14, 2006 09:25 AM
...and don't say 'Nutmeg State.' It makes us all sound like sheisters. Posted by: lauraw on January 14, 2006 09:26 AM
Pull my finger, Bob. Posted by: Stinky Pete on January 14, 2006 10:04 AM
Just a few miles south, in Meriden. Sorry about the Nutmegger reference. How about The Few, The Proud, The CT Conservatives! Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 02:41 PM
You listen to the Vicevich show on 1080 am? Posted by: lauraw on January 14, 2006 03:20 PM
It's hard to get any AM reception in my office, much less the signal from Farmington (I work in Waterbury.) I catch him once in a while if I am on the road. Makes me feel good that we have at least one of us on CT radio that isn't imported. I will, however, listen to static before I'll give Colin McEnroe a single ratings point. Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 05:16 PM
Stinky! Stinky Pete! I'll get you Stinky Pete! Posted by: Shark on January 14, 2006 05:38 PM
Oh crap, oh crap, crapcrapcrap crap on a crap cracker crap. Posted by: Stinky Pete on January 14, 2006 05:39 PM
Oh, I listen to Colin. Used to want to smash my radio when I first started listening to him, but now I just laugh. Frustrated Commie, fulminating aloud. Hilarious! Posted by: lauraw on January 14, 2006 05:44 PM
what gets me about him is his smug, smarmy demeanor. That little "ummm" after every supposed joke he makes, like he's giving the audience a chance to laugh before he continues with his next witty little bon mot, because he's so sure that no one would want to miss a single word he says. ugh. Like I said, I've given up listening to him. What was his reaction to Lieberman's WSJ editorial? Must have been brilliant. Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 06:18 PM
Oh yes, there is always smarm in abundance. The man's middle name is Smarm. And he's always so preoccupied with being hip n' trendy. Talking about doing yoga, playing a little clip of rap music here and there. I didn't hear his response to that article, but I know he's been trying to figure out if there's anyone that can unseat Joe, ever since Joe came back from a trip to Iraq and said things looked good. Man, that sent Colin to the MOON. He was flibberty gibbets! It was good stuff. Too bad you've been missing it, in the right frame of mind its something else. Especially when he brings Lowell Weicker on the show. I've had customers that I know to be Democrats in my store when Weicker is on the radio, and they practically hiss at the stereo speaker! The man's voice sparks visceral hatred in many Connecticut residents. Posted by: lauraw on January 14, 2006 07:29 PM
Weicker is just too funny for words. He's like Howard Dean to me. Please, Lowell, keep trying to be the voice of the left. That will insure the continuing shift to the right in CT for many years to come. He's like a good-looking Rosa DeLauro. But then, Ted Kennedy is good-looking, compared to Rosa. [shudder] Weicker was the one that woke me up to the "honesty" of politicans. I actually voted for him when he first ran for Governor, 'cause he said that "Instituting a state income tax in CT now would be like throwing gas on a fire." Then, what, two months later, he signs the income tax into being. I regret my vote to this day. Guess I should't have been too surprised, but the day after Joe's piece ran in the WSJ, there was a front page story in my local paper all about Lowell's response. But it took them over two more weeks to actually run Joe's piece. Liberal media? Where? What kind of store do you have? (Geez, sounds like I'm trying to pick you up. No worries. I just find it funny that, after surfing for years and reading dozens and dozens of blogs, the two that I consider to be must-read are AoS and Moorewatch, both run out of CT. It's a small world after all.) Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 08:17 PM
AoS is run out of NYC, I've never even met Ace. I decline to say what store it is, due to your proximity and travel route you may actually be one of my customers. I try to keep on the anonymous side for safety, you understand. Posted by: lauraw on January 14, 2006 08:26 PM
totally understood. Have a great night and I'll be readin' ya. Go Pats! (Now that the Giants are out of it, I need some reason to wacth the rest of the season.) Posted by: wiserbud on January 14, 2006 09:15 PM
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