I watched the 4 main party leaders' debate on C-SPAN, the other day. It was like Susan Collins vs. a coupla Joe Bidens and a Howard Dean.

Are you saying this is bad news for the GOP because the same might happen here? I don't think it's an apples-to-apples situation. Paul Martin's government has been ridiculously corrupt for a long time, and the Canadian people are sick of it.

One thing I do like about Stephen Harper (the leader of the conservative party), he doesn't mince words. He was commenting on the pressure the liberal government is under when he said, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen." He said the f-word. Something kind of refreshing about that kind of talk.

About time. This will be a great victory for all the cool Canadians from Alberta and Calgary. Don't laugh, these guys are liberty loving cowboys living under the cruel tyranny of pussies from Toronto. I hope these guys can get their guns back but it is Canada, so I'm not holding my breath.

If it wasn't for the United States, Canada wouldn't even have the f-word.

Wasn't "liberty loving cowboys living under the cruel tyranny of pussies" Andrew Sullivan's review of Brokeback Mountain?

The relative scale of Canada's corruption is way higher than in the US. Plus, in the US, as many high-profile Dems look set to be tarred as R's, whereas in Canada the Tories have been outta power for so long, they're pretty clean.

Remember, in the US, the out-of-power party still has a lot of influential members who can pull strings and are therefore worth bribing. No one in their right mind would waste a penny bribing an opposition member. In Canada, party control in a majority govt is absolute; what checks? what balances? So the Libs will deservedly wear their scandals all by themselves.

The only threat to the GOP in 2006 is Kos predicting the Dems will lose.

If the Liberal Party looses to the Conservatives relations with the US will improve & Bush will have one less foreign critic. It's good news for Bush & the Republicans.

And when the whole story about the Liberal Party connections to the Oil For Food scam come out, Bush will look even better.

And I care about the most boring nation on earth why?

Iblis,

You should care if you're in the paper-shredding business, cuz you're about to make a lotta money.

Oh yeah, thousands of miles of common border and larger oil reserves than Saudi Arabia. That too.

Canadian politics: IRRELEVANT AND BORING.

The cool thing about Canada is...um, it's...uh,
well...

zzzzz... zzzzz... zzzzz...

Ace: I vote almost alwaysvote for republicans and I like republicans, but if their defeatisdueto their corruption, i wouln't be too upset. Democracy is only strong when leaders are held accountable. I worry more that we could become like Kos and lose track of our true beliefs. To support corrupt officials (like Clinton, Kennedy, et al.) just because they're Democrats is one of the worst chacteristics of the Democratic party. I much prefer a "throw the bums out" theory of politics. I want the Republicans to win when they have the best ideas, not just because they're republicans. Loyalty needs to be to an ideal, not just to a love of power or fear of losing power. Don't be seduced into believing that possession of power is worth prostituting your core beliefs. Better to lose now and come back later with more honest political office holders.

I hope the Republicans do eat shit in November. It's the only way the real asshats in the party, the ones who subscribe to the Open Wallet Policy and the ones who are a little too tickled by their ability to regulate millions of Americans, will be marginalized.

It's like the Colts- get that first loss out of the way after a long streak, then you can concentrate on ensuring your viability for further on down the road.

Except that the Colts' season ended in week 14. One word will perfectly describe what the Colts look like this Sunday: stale.

The best game will be New England vs. Denver.

The best game will be New England vs. Denver.

Yup, and the clan will be gathered to cheer on the Broncos. I know I can count on your support, Bart.

I live in Canada, and I agree with rho--Canadian politics is irrelevant and boring.

So the conservatives might get in -- big deal. They've spent this whole campaign going around the country telling people how they're really no different than the Liberals, except not as corrupt. Great--exactly what we need--the same old irrelevant, crap.

I think what might interest you Yanks the most about our boring Canadian election is that our incumbent prime minister relies on bashing the United States, Bush and the war in Iraq to gain votes. And he warns Canadians that they shouldn't vote for his opponent because Harper and the Tories are friendlier to the Republicans. I find the spectacle of our leader making cheap shots against the U.S. to be embarassing and pathetic.

Geoff, please, man, come to your senses.
This will be second time I've had rooted for the Pats since Belichick came to town. I can't stand Belichik.

But I despise Jake Plummer even more. Plummer said some nasty shit about the war and I believed he lied about Pat Tilman.

Moreover, the Patriots don't cotton to losing -- especially play-off games. By the end of the game, you'll be wishing for ol' #7 and that obnoxious Sharpe character to run on the field.

Oh yeah, Canadians (in Quebec) are a bunch of flaming anuses.

Canada needs a better goverment then the one they got right now

I have a great deal of respect for the USA and the people that live there. However I have to point out that those that cannot look beyond their borders are the ingrates that make so much of the ROTW despise Americans. It's unfortunate, you do have the greatest country in the world but that kind of thinking sometimes holds you back from being even greater. This election in Canada is important to Americans, even those that are too moronic to see beyond their own needs. Even the strongest need support. Finally throwing those dumbasses that have been a national disgrace out of office should be seen as a sign of progress south of the border.

Don't be miffed, Canucks, we love ya. Good luck with the elections, here's hoping for some positive changes up there.

No, actually the use of words like "ingrates" and "moronic" by Canadians describing Americans is what turns us off to Canada.

We are well aware of our neighbors to the North. And we are well aware that they "despise" us. Not for the reasons you mentioned, however. We are despised by Canadians because of their own inferiority complex.

It's utter bullshit to even suggest that Americans are not willing to embrace ANY country that offers their friendship. The thing is that we Americans are funny about friendship and loyalty; we like our friends to be, well, loyal. We don't appreciate citizens of other countries who constantly shit upon us for ridiculous reasons -- Americans are fatsos. Americans are spoiled. Americans are racists.

That's not how friends treat each other.

Yeah, but Bart, on that note you shouldn't smack Canadians around when the only Canadians in the thread are bein' nice for a change.

Yes, but he had that Canadian "air" about him, didn't he?

I know there are a few good Cannuckleheads up there, but I'm still harboring hard feelings for all the times that Canadian hockey fans booed during our national anthem. In other words, they started it.

I'm also still miffed about the f'n Mexicans chanting "Osama" during our anthem at soccer games. Cocksukers.

I know, man, I know. It's nothing new, and it's a lot harder to deal with crap like that these days. Used to be easy to ignore the ridiculousness, but every time I open my mouth to snark back at Canada I realize I'm stomping on the toes of people I like and that just makes it worse.

Hopefully things will get better later on. Maybe a change in government up there will bring about a change in tone.

Proud K-W conservative: You call it arrogance: we call it being able to make a difference. Maybe you'd be a little arrogant too, if you didn't have so very very much to be humble about. You call us ingrates...that's fucking hilarious seeing as how we've been guarding your asses for fifty years. What are we supposed to be grateful for- Celine Deion? Softpulp wood?All two companies of deployable infantry you can add to our forces abroad- IF the New York Air Force Reserve decides to give you a ride?

We don't run our nation on a popularity basis; never will. You don't like our attitude? Fucking tough. Close your borders and starve to death or build a military and civilian structure worth cultivating as an ally.

Signed, one of those "moronic, ingrate" Americans.

PS- "You're Welcome", from the nation that invented the Internet that you just used to express your contempt for us. Wanker.

Bart & DaveP. -

Why are you guys harping on that minor shit? As a former New Jerseyan, I can tell you the greater problem is the proliferation of Canadians that swarm American beach towns wearing the Speedos/banana hammocks. American males are just as ugly, fat, and hairy as Canadians, but we have the decency to hide some of it with voluminous bathing suits/ board shorts.