The only threat to democracy is the theocrats who want to limit our viewing of infant sexual "stories"...see last thread for link.

WTF is wrong with these people.

/sarc off btw

Can you imagine if a Republican group had done this in response to all those FBI files showing up on Hillary's desk?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/1197.shtml

I think Dan Rather would have had something to say about that.

These fuck-ups don't even TRY hiding their freakishness anymore. Beating them to a pulp every Super Tuesday is getting too (fun) easy.

Hillary had the right to do what she did...you know, getting FBI records on opponents because it was the only way to even the playing field agains the VRWC.

Oh dear. Now are you going to advocate the enforcement of privacy laws, skirted or outright violated by these companies that sell the info?

That would be rich.

Now are you comparing a group of bloggers to the national govt? Here's what the democrats.com site says about their idea:

Now I know there are people who think it's wrong to behave like Republicans. I do too - but Big Brother Bush is completely out of control and Congress is a Republican dictatorship. If we don't take action ourselves, Big Brother Bush will never stop watching us.

Anyone can buy this information, as reported on a leftist site. Leftist generally ARE disturbed by the ease of obtaining such information (which is why it was reported in the first place). Conservatives... not so much.

I think Congress should enact and enforce better privacy laws.

I also think the Constitution would be a better document with an amendment establishing a right to privacy.

And I know who would oppose a constitutional right to privacy.

Tubino,

Hello.

What do you mean "start" spying? The Dems have always spied on the Reeps.

Remember the elderly couple that just happened to be driving around with a cell phone receiver and happened to have a tape recorder and happened to be in Newt Gingrich's neighborhood while the Speaker of the House was speaking on his phone?

Leftist generally ARE disturbed by the ease of obtaining such information (which is why it was reported in the first place). Conservatives... not so much.

I think you dropped this, I saw it lying on the floor.

You ever get the feeling that if Bush announced his love for puppies, tubino would go on an anti-puppy tirade within five minutes of the announcement?

I also think there should be an amendment added to the Constitution defining marriage between a man and a woman.

Leftist generally ARE disturbed by the ease of obtaining such information (which is why it was reported in the first place). Conservatives... not so much.

And yet, Tubino, Ace protected your privacy when it was violated by a commenter.

He didn't have to do this. Nothing illegal about what was done. It was simply a matter of conscience for him.

So what do you do? You come back here cheering your scumbag leftist friends for pulling a dirty move, and scold the very guy that proved with his actions that he is above that kind of shit.

You truly are a piece of work, you little dickbag. Tell me, do you ever tire of being such a fucking jerk?

By the way Turbino if you are male I want to suck your cock.

or you mean like when Sen. Schumer's lead DSCC illegally acquired the confidential credit reports of Lt Gov Michael Steele?

Its a crime to spy of terrorists and extremists but its perfectly ok to spy on conservative republicans what kind of dirty work is this?

By the way Turbino if you are male I want to suck your cock.

Oh, look, PLV's bac. Done sniffing mommy's panties, are we?

I don't wear any.

Those were mine.

I see that Tubino has surfaced from the cesspool in order to crap out his little jewels of wisdom on this topic.

"And I know who would oppose a constitutional right to privacy."

Slow down, Tubs. You and your fellow travelers need to work on making affordable healthcare and decent housing contitutionally mandated first.

Besides, weren't those rambling idiots known as the democrat senators espousing that there already exists a constitutional right to privacy at the Alito hearings today? Hmmmmm?

TORTURE!!!

I see the hypocrites are busy contradicting themselves again.

What a big surprise.

I see I've shit myself again.

Big surprise.

Uh... I think you guys are missing a little context here. Which is the hallmark of manufactured Republican outrage, but what the hell, I'll try to fill you in anyway.

About a week ago, John Aravosis of AmericaBlog verified that these services actually work and, contrary to whatever you're implying, expressed great displeasure. But don't take my word for it, read it yourself. (The post was subsequently linked on Dailykos.com, and Democrats.com, and the rest is history.) He mentioned (since it's true) that the Republicans have known about this for some time and failed or refused to act. I see no finer way to spur an unresponsive government into action than by making them uncomfortable through completely legal means. ("Shady" or not, it's entirely within the law, unfortunately. Which can't be said for the NSA spying this is supposedly a 100% accurate analogue of, according to the post on this site...)

Do you disagree? If not, why the false analogy?

(By the way, I might add that this would be a legal action taken by citizens against the government, which any civil libertarian should support pretty much without question, and a 180 degree difference from NSAgate. And it won't top the year-long hacking of Democratic files in the Senate, either, will it. Well, shucks.)

Yes, because monitoring international calls that route through switches in the US is bad, that means it is okay for Democrats to pull any dirty trick they want in digging up dirt on people they don't like.

So yeah, the hypocrites are busy contradicting themselves, hardcore.

Now I know there are people who think it's wrong to behave like Republicans. I do too - but Big Brother Bush is completely out of control and Congress is a Republican dictatorship. If we don't take action ourselves, Big Brother Bush will never stop watching us.

And remember, folks, it's okay for them to violate their own "principles" because they really, really hate Republicans.

"it is okay for Democrats to pull any dirty trick they want in digging up dirt on people they don't like."

There is a culture war going on.

"Uh... I think you guys are missing a little context here. Which is the hallmark of manufactured Republican outrage, but what the hell, I'll try to fill you in anyway."

Uh... talk about missing context, oh, ye of the tiniest brain:
The Islamofacists want us all dead!
But you and your ilk are so busy making sure that every little nicety is so delicately observed, that the President can barely wage the WOT.

How I hope the lot of you are first to be dragged off and beheaded if the Muslims ever win. Even then, you will make sure that their civil rights have been protected.

I see no finer way to spur an unresponsive government into action than by making them uncomfortable through completely legal means.

I see no finer way for you guys to remind the public why they don't really have a choice but to keep voting for us anyway, when the alternative is the Clown Party.

I can't believe I get PAID for this job.

"The Islamofacists want us all dead!"

I'm all for going after those cocksuckers. When do we start?

Have we finished attacking the wrong countries yet?

Whatever, Karl Rove. You guys are just a bunch of faggy fag Republifag homophobes who hate gays.

Fags!

Have we finished attacking the wrong countries yet?

You're still whoring out to fight the culture war, laddie. Let me know how that works out for you.

sortelli: U said"And remember, folks, it's okay for them to violate their own "principles" because they really, really hate Republicans.

ZING! Ouch, that smarts.

Seriously, good one. I'm really torn on this one. I believe the "all legal means" argument, but still, Have we really stooped that low?

Ah, well, the idealist in me. And, a question: Why is it legal for someone to buy my phone records? Whay say y'all? Is that OK? Curious.

Why is it legal for someone to buy my phone records? Whay say y'all? Is that OK? Curious.

That is a good question. Any ideas?

"You're still whoring out to fight the culture war, laddie. Let me know how that works out for you."

As soon as your fat ass is behind bars. By the way Karl do you think exposing our agents is an act of patriotism? Is that part of the war on terrorism?

I'm opposed to spying on US citizens period. I don't care who is doing it, your side, or our side. Whenever you decide to go after our real enemies let me know.

Have we really stooped that low?

Honestly. Compared to most of the American Left's stoops, hell, even against your frantic retard typing, this one isn't all that low.

And, a question: Why is it legal for someone to buy my phone records? Whay say y'all? Is that OK? Curious.

Maybe we can put some protections in place after the Democrats finally disolve and the Republicans split into their libertarian and socially conservative halves.

Until then I'll just be thankful if our country can keep Iran from getting nukes and get Iraq back on its feet. Hey, and thanks for all the help there, assholes.

Yes, there is a "culture" war going on. It's those who respect the Constitution as written (it's not a "living, breathing document" as some would have us believe - that's just newspeak for "we can get a judge to change it by interpretation if we're sweet enough to him") against those who would have the guv'mint supply everyone's every need, cradle-to-grave.

Unfortunately, no one's figured out a way to pay for all the guv'mint largess without forced labor, and some of us are pretty darned tired of footing the bill for baby factories and slackers.

BTW, PLV, when you get up to three active brain cells, check back in. As it is, no one here is interested in your homophobia or lack of anything resembling a cogent thought.

By the way PLV that doesn't mean I don't want to suck your cock too.

I'm opposed to spying on US citizens period.

Well, thanks for admitting that you can't read anything past a headline. Back to the kiddie pool, jackass.

And stop peeing in it, they're using that secret chemical that turns your backside purple as a baboon's butt if you piss in the water.

Karl fuck off and die traitor scum.

I'm a big tough guy on the internet, but in the real world I get my ass kicked by 8 year old girls.

Bitchass liar, I pwn your ass here too.

Hell, I get my ass kicked by toddlers.

When I'm not fucking barnyard animals, that is.

I love cock

Cocky cock cock

Here it goes down

Down in my throaty.

"Here it goes down"

That's not a proper sentence.

Uh... talk about missing context, oh, ye of the tiniest brain:
The Islamofacists want us all dead!
But you and your ilk are so busy making sure that every little nicety is so delicately observed, that the President can barely wage the WOT.

Non sequitur.

How I hope the lot of you are first to be dragged off and beheaded if the Muslims ever win. Even then, you will make sure that their civil rights have been protected.

Creepy.

"And yet, Tubino, Ace protected your privacy when it was violated by a commenter."

Really? I didn't know that. Honestly, that's the first I heard of it. I thank him for that. I guess if I knew more details, I'd thank him again, and more. It's pretty obvious I only pop in here irregularly, and I'm sure I miss the majority of posts that appear with my handle on them, not to mention the discussion...

Thanks, Ace.

That's not a proper sentence.

That's because it's a quote, you dim-witted imbecile.

Sorry, are you not old enough to watch "Anchorman" yet? Damned ratings system.

On this topic of privacy, I'm a longtime fan of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, WELL.com, and John Perry Barlow.

I go back a long way on this privacy stuff.

Uh... talk about missing context, oh, ye of the tiniest brain: The Islamofacists want us all dead! But you and your ilk are so busy making sure that every little nicety is so delicately observed, that the President can barely wage the WOT.

Non sequitur.

True that.

How I hope the lot of you are first to be dragged off and beheaded if the Muslims ever win. Even then, you will make sure that their civil rights have been protected.

Creepy.

Double true.

Wanna hear the punchline? Guys like that still come across as more reasonable than you guys do.

Warden said about me: "So what do you do? You come back here cheering your scumbag leftist friends for pulling a dirty move, and scold the very guy that proved with his actions that he is above that kind of shit."

I didn't cheer anyone for invading privacy. I said:

I think Congress should enact and enforce better privacy laws.

I also think the Constitution would be a better document with an amendment establishing a right to privacy.

Then this back and forth wouldn't even be possible.

I think Rush Limbaugh is scum, but he has the right to keep him medical records (did you say erectile dysfunction?) PRIVATE. I think the ACLU takes that position too.

tubino- There was a whole thread on it, if I recall. It came up in the comment section and ace put a post on the front to make it clear that sort of thing wasn't kosher after deleting the comment in question. I only read about it after the fact myself, but I got the impression that whoever made the post felt bad about it in retrospect as well.

The unobvious name-jacking is bad enough, I agree that there's no reason for anyone to be dragging stuff outside this site into the flames.

I go waaay back on the privacy issue. That's why I was here calling for the resignation of Sen. Chuck Shumer when he and his staff illegally obtained information of a political opponent.

It's pretty obvious I only pop in here irregularly, and I'm sure I miss the majority of posts that appear with my handle on them...

I'm so full of shit that even I have a hard time believing what I write.

Whoever is doing the extremely poor impression of tubino, please stop. Sure, a lot of us disagree with the guy, but that's no reason to engage in rude behavior.

Tubino, you implied hypocricy on the part of Ace for objecting to the idea of buying the private information of one's enemies.

Oh dear. Now are you going to advocate the enforcement of privacy laws, skirted or outright violated by these companies that sell the info?

That would be rich.

Then you gave your tacit approval of the idea.

Now are you comparing a group of bloggers to the national govt? Here's what the democrats.com site says about their idea:

"Now I know there are people who think it's wrong to behave like Republicans. I do too - but Big Brother Bush is completely out of control and Congress is a Republican dictatorship. If we don't take action ourselves, Big Brother Bush will never stop watching us."

Anyone can buy this information, as reported on a leftist site.

If you think this is wrong, then simply say so without the caveats about privacy laws needing to be tougher. There's quite a difference between legality and morality - one you don't seem to understand.

Ace gets it. He stood up to protect your privacy. The least you can fuckin' do is not question his earnestness on the matter, don't you think?

Edit: "One's enemies" should read "one's political enemies," though the way these shitheads view the world, the distinction probably shouldn't be made at all.

If tubino will answer on question, I will stop posting as "tubino."

Tubino, on what other sites do you comment?

Tell us the truth. Don't give us the bullshit about how you only occasionally surf the political blogs or don't comment on any other blogs besides AoS.

Don't lie. Don't evade. Be honest and sincere.

tubino- There was a whole thread on it, if I recall.

No kidding? The crazy thing is ... why would anyone here care about my life? There was a time... but now? Most exciting this week was getting my retirement account information.

Well thanks again Ace.

I think if it weren't for the sort of historically peculiar fact that Roe v Wade relies on the privacy interp for its basis, that a constitutional amendment asserting a right to privacy would be welcomed by many on the right AND left.

Dear Dems,

Just because something is legal doesn't mean you have to do it or make it morally right.

For example, tubino, I suspect your wife will not buy the argument that since in Nevada it's legal to buy sex, it's makes it okay for you to do so during that last convention.

Tubino: But hey, honey, you know I go a long way back supporting laws against prostitution...once they make that illegal in Nevada, I'll be sure to stop buying sex there.

If tubino will answer on question, I will stop posting as "tubino."

I don't believe that one should put demands on others before he or she decides to be polite.

tubino impostor: None of your business is my answer.

I'm just a simple country boy. Why does everyone pick on me?

I don't care about you or what you think. I will continue to voice my opinion on this blog. I don't care about Ace's bandwidth costs -- one less wingnut blog is fine with me.

You know, this name stealing thing makes it hard to figure out who is saying what. Did the real tubino just write that? Or was it the tubino imposter?

"If tubino will answer on question, I will stop posting as "tubino."

Tubino, on what other sites do you comment?"

Why should anyone care??? I comment rarely on other sites, but occasionally on Atrios. I think I did a couple times on washingtonmonthly (Kevin Drum). Couple times on Daou report, Kos, firedoglake. I was quickly banned from some wingnut sites, like that moonbat one. Oh, and I comment frequently on totalitarians_unite.com -- just kidding.

For reasons I can't fathom, the name tubino is taken on lots of sites. I'm definitely NOT all of them. Okay, you can quit the namestealing.

Maybe you can explain your fascination with me? I'm really ordinary to the point of boring.

I'm really ordinary to the point of boring.

Join the club.

I'm the real tubino, all others are imposters. Lets keep some decorum.

I also eat feces.

I don't know if I should be flattered someone highjacked my name or pissed because of what he/she/it said.

Let it be known that any post from me will not have sexual references (unless relevant to the discussion, such as in Tubby Teddy's case) or cursing. I do not own my moniker, but please don't confuse the filth of that last post from "Carlos" with anything I would offer. Thanks.

And Tubino, I wonder if you're all that you put yourself up as, specifically, as a "country boy." I am, and those I know who are proud of it certainly aren't flaming moonbat. Those who are embarassed by their country roots (like, say, the prez of Columbia U.) tend to hide it or disclaim it. Not calling you a liar, understand, just a little hesitant to accept that at face value.

I suppose I can look forward to finding a slew of illiterate posts in my name on all the sites I mentioned.

I got the idea for a constitutional amendment on right to privacy from Dan Savage, who published an op-ed on it.

Is there no one here who finds that an interesting idea?

The thing is, the idea of PRIVACY has evolved since the country was founded (as has authorship). So it seems historically informed that the idea might be appropriate for an update to the constitution.

Warden: I don't care about a handful of folks who call themselves democrats.com. I care more about the ease of getting what shoudl be private information. I'm appreciative of anyone who respects privacy.

Carlos,

An imposter made the country boy claim-- though I grew up in a rural area. 4H club was big there.

I like wild country and I like cities too. Go figure.

Dan Savage the weird sex columnist, doorknob licking guy?

Wrote something about the need for a constitutional amendment to protect privacy? Do you have a link?

My opinion? It's an interesting idea, but would never pass. The law enforcement community would go simply insane over it.

I suppose I can look forward to finding a slew of illiterate posts in my name on all the sites I mentioned.

No, that's something you would probably do.

Anyway, you have answered the question. Good for you. Now I will seek out the archives which will tell me if you are sincere or merely a troll who enjoys getting under people's skin. My gut feeling is that you have a contemptful heart and your main purpose is to hurt others who disagree with you politically.

I shall make my decision soon. Until then, well, I'll probably continue to lampoon you if the situation warrants. We don't want to be warrantless, now do we? :)

However, your recent revelation, "I aslo eat feces," will weigh against you in my decision. Good luck and God bless you.

"The Islamofacists want us all dead!"

I'm all for going after those cocksuckers. When do we start?

Have we finished attacking the wrong countries yet?

Talk about cognitive dissonance. Really.

I'm also not keen on all the posting under other people's names. (Note that PLV is the main offender, I believe.)

But anyhow. Tubino, I'll tell you something. It's not all that rare that you say something which I agree with in part or at least find interesting, such as your comments here about privacy. But quite a while back I gave up getting into discussions because it was a waste of time. You weren't intellectually honest. You're obviously smart and I thought this meant you probably weren't a troll, but I was wrong, so I gave up. Take this criticism or leave it, believe me or don't, your choice. But it's the truth.

If you ever decide to have honest and vaguely on-topic discussions here, maybe I'll try again sometime. But so far, all you've done is make liberals look bad. And as someone with quite a few liberal views, I find it especially tiresome.

I'm also not keen on all the posting under other people's names. (Note that PLV is the main offender, I believe.)

Yes, PLV pioneered the practice and continues it as a way to both compensate for his utter lack of original thought and his need to communicate his homoerotic fantasies.

Or perhaps it is just that he is an asshole.

Either way, his casual use of the identities of others is annoying, and I hope he develops enough maturity soon to curb his bad etiquette.

"Dan Savage the weird sex columnist, doorknob licking guy?"

Uh, Dan Savage, the sex columnist guy. The op-ed was in NYT maybe ... 8 weeks ago? Nicely written.

SJKevin, you obviously mean what you say, but I don't know why I would be called intellectually dishonest. I have argued points, and have retreated from claims when I overstated them.

Often I am accused of saying (or meaning?!?) something that I just didn't say. In this thread I'm accused of supporting the spsying idea of democrats.com, despite saying almost the opposite. Par for the course.

I will take one swipe. Some of the thinnest-skinned folks I've come across in the internet inhabit this blog. Very sensitive types who squeal endlessly when they receive one example of what they dish out daily. I figure it's cheeto-stained guys living with their parents. I try to have pity.

Posting Under a Different Name

Please, unless you're doing an obvious gag (like posting under "Pat O'Brien"), don't post under someone else's name. It's getting confusing and the joke, while occasionally funny, is getting annoying.

If you're going to post under someone's name, do so in a way that makes it obvious you're not really that person, like posting as "Tubino Junior." It still gets the same joke across, but without all the confusion.

In this thread I'm accused of supporting the spsying idea of democrats.com, despite saying almost the opposite. Par for the course.

That why you quoted their justification for us all to read?

Here's what the democrats.com site says about their idea:

Now I know there are people who think it's wrong to behave like Republicans. I do too - but Big Brother Bush is completely out of control and Congress is a Republican dictatorship. If we don't take action ourselves, Big Brother Bush will never stop watching us.

Tell me, why did you quote this if you simply wanted to comment about how you think we should enact tougher privacy laws?

I will take one swipe.

Please do!

Some of the thinnest-skinned folks I've come across in the internet inhabit this blog. Very sensitive types who squeal endlessly when they receive one example of what they dish out daily.

Totally. (Especially Bart. You should hear him squeal.)

I figure it's cheeto-stained guys living with their parents.

You and me both, Tubinito.

I try to have pity.

Me, if I were in your shoes, I'd do some serious self-assessment when I realized that these guys have pity on me.

"Yes, PLV pioneered the practice and continues it as a way to both compensate for his utter lack of original thought and his need to communicate his homoerotic fantasies."

That is a lie you fucking asshole. As soon as the dickhead who started this by impersonating me gets the courage to fess up and stops, then so will I. I won't hold my breath because I know Republifags never admit to their own folly, they are only interested in pointing it out in others.

Uh, Dan Savage, the sex columnist guy. The op-ed was in NYT maybe ... 8 weeks ago? Nicely written.

You don't remember the doornknob licking incident? Savage volunteered for the Gary Bauer campaign in 2000 and tried to give Bauer the flu. Not the nicest thing in the world to do, but it made for a funny column.

As soon as the dickhead who started this

Uh, that would be you, cum-catcher. I seem to recall that the imposter PLV only started after some blatantly obvious fake posts, and the blatantly obvious fake posts only started after you came on the scene. What a coinkydink, hm?

(Now let me guess what Proud Liberal Fuckwit's rebuttal will be. I predict the word "fag" will be involved.)

"Uh, that would be you, cum-catcher. "

No it wasn't me cocksucker. In fact the little ferry who started this has put up more posts using my name than I have. By the way cocksucker you are one of the pieces of crap I have narrowed it down to.

I predict the word "fag" will be involved.

Well, he used the word 'cocksucker,' but since that practice can be engaged in by both men and women, I'm afraid I can't give you the point on this one.

Oh, and Mr. Liberal Vet? It's "fairy," not "ferry." One is a sparkling little winged creature who inhabits mystical lands and the other is a boat.

One would think you'd get the easy anti-gay slurs correct, considering they are your most frequently-employed insult.

You have gone back to hiding again have you coward. You may notice that the term "cum-catcher", directed my way, was used before I called Zetetic a cocksucker. But you would know that since you, coward, and zetetic are likely one and the same..

Your list of suspects must be long, considering your unpopularity on this site.

"The Islamofacists want us all dead!"

Don't they?

I would assume what this poster meant was:
All this debate over spying and wiretaps and whether or not a warrent was obtained will seem petty after Iran and Israel have a nuclear exchange.
Or worse, after Al-Quaeda sets off a nuke in New York.

Now that's context.

"Your list of suspects must be long, considering your unpopularity on this site."

My prime suspect, thanks to your participation this morning, is you zetetic. I suspected a couple of others but have more or less ruled them out.

Sorry, it's me. I know, I know...ideological allies and all, but you're annoying as all fuck and most of us on the left really think you're a Karl Rove plant created to make all of us look bad.

Harry...you...ah...mothah...always trying to, uh, steal my...ah...thundah!

Keep up the good work, my minion.

Stay classy, Proud Liberal Vet!

Liberals have no class.

Hey, shut the fuck up!

I'm not paying you stupid bastards to hear the sounds of your voices.

Get off the computer and clean your room, or no nintendo for you, young man.

Hi Bob, I've been trying to get through to you but your receptionist keeps saying you have no idea who I am. There is a floating crap game happening in the bay tonight and I'm trying to get at least one of my dear friends to come.

Sorry Jack I really have no idea who you are.

But Bob the Iranian oil minister will be there, and he has brought some hot muslim babes. There is also going to be a surprise guest, who has a plan to get the President's numbers back up over 40%.

"If you're going to post under someone's name, do so in a way that makes it obvious you're not really that person" -ace

In an effort to help carry out ace's fine idea, here are some alternatives for ProudLiberalVet:

Proud Liberal Fag Hag
Prick-loving Liberal Vet
Puking Liberal Vomit
Proud Liberal Faggot Hater
Plame Loser Valerie
Prickless Loser Boy

Hey Zetetic stupid fuck, since you have put up way more posts using my name, I guess because you are ashamed of your own, your criticism of the fake posts is really a criticism of yourself.

What a loon.

I would like to propose that the posters on this site stop picking on the sad spectacle that is the life of the man who calls himself Proud Liberal Vet.

Proud Liberal Vet has seen the elephant, he's been to the trenches and has known the pain of watching our country's soldiers act like the barbarians of Jenjiss Khan.

My swift boat crew will tell you that I'm a man who knows about leadership and sacrifice. My hand has bled for this country, as has my ass. Proud Liberal Vet knows what it's like to bleed for his country, because frankly, he's not smart enough to realize that road flares do not make good sex toys.

But America should be a place where the smart and the exceptionally stupid alike are welcome under one banner. A banner I like to call "the one banner."

And that banner is freedom.

Gosh, Senator John Kerry, I thought the banner was "Democrat". They're just waiting for the smart ones now, since they've already gotten their quota of "exceptionally stupid".

Looks like I have two more fags lining up for a big suck.

Let us pause for a moment and reflect on the inspirational words of Mr. Proud Liberal Vet. When he says "looks like I have two more fags lining up for a big suck," I am reminded that we live in two Americas.

In one America, we have those people who want to deny patriots...no, heroes like Proud Liberal Vet their right to suck a monster cock and be sucked off by hirsute men in biker outfits. This America is a place where people like Proud Liberal Vet can dream big dreams, and live out those dreams in loud sweaty bars full of grappling hands and tight leather pants.

Then there's another America, the America of George Bush and his cronies. In that America, a guy like Proud Liberal Vet would have to live in the closet. The closet of shame. The closet of misery and hopelessness and unfulfilled dreams. That is not an America I want to leave to my children. America should be a place where homo-curious men like my good friend the Liberal Vet can be the full-on master of cock that exists in his dreams.

So join us, as we work to make Proud Liberal Vet's America a reality.

If you saw the size of it you would be really inspired girlie-boy.

Girlie-boy?

Are you making fun of my hair? Because I'm really fucking proud of my hair.

You're projecting again, Proud Liberal Skidmark. I'm not the one who pretends to be other people. That would be you.

If it isn't you zetetic then who is it? Someone keeps pretending to be me. Given what a total idiot I am how could I even type that fast.

Frankly I could scarcely care less who's pretending to be you. I'm just glad someone's giving you a taste of your own medicine, you fuckwit.

"Frankly I could scarcely care less who's pretending to be you. I'm just glad someone's giving you a taste of your own medicine, you fuckwit."

You can't imagine the pain and suffering it is causing me too you ignorant little twerp.

You sure are tough when you're hiding behind a keyboard.

"You sure are tough when you're hiding behind a keyboard."

So are you idiot.

Oh, and by the way, I agree complete with this statement of yours:

Given what a total idiot I am how could I even type that fast.

Hey, when you're right, you're right.

So we finally agree on something?

What a relief.

That speech by Senator Edwards made me cry, and it made me want some serious man-love.

Somebody hold me?

I was jerking off and imagining blowing all over Bush's face while reading it.

I didn't write that, you dipshit son of a whore.

You are an asshole anyway so fuck off creep.

PLV, must you be such an asshole? Enough with the infantile name-stealing.

I already told you that if the asshole who keeps pretending to be me stops I will stop. I didn't start it but I will continue as long as that little piece of shit continues.

Now why don't you lecture them asshole?

Actually, you'll stop now, "Veteran."

I didn't start it

I used to hear this from my kids when they were 7 years old. Grow up, asshat.

Fuck off Brewfag.

Fuck off Brewfag

Oh. That hurt. And it looks like it only took you 8 minutes to think that up. I'm impressed.

"Actually, you'll stop now, "Veteran.""

Is that a confession?

Suck my cock Brewfag.

PLV, you're so obsessed with finding out who has been stealing your identity. Personally, I have no idea who's been doing that. As I have said repeatedly, I abhor such behavior and do not engage in it myself.

But if you must know, the guy giving you anonymous grammar advice? That was me, buddy.

Thanks for showing you are not a coward Lee and by the way, shove your grammer lessons up your ass.

Suck my cock Brewfag.

1 minute! I can see I'm overmatched by your rapier-like wit.

BTW, one can't suck what the other doesn't have.

Sock my cock Brewfag.

It's "grammar," moron.

Man, but you are dumb.

Sock my cock Lee Fagwater.

He is the dumbest troll we've ever had around here. By far.

Suck my cock Brewfag.

"Sock" my cock?

How exactly does one "sock" a cock?

I agree, Brew. Dumbest troll ever.

Pretty high end security system you have here acewipe.

Our house cat has a larger vocabulary then this 'guy'.

But I still want to suck his cock.

Hey acewipe keep trying. You can figure it out.

PLV,

I've asked everyone here to stop monicker-stealing. This includes you and the people who have been doing it to you.

I'd like to keep you around for the entertainment value, but if you don't knock it off, like now, I'll ban your IP.

Okay?

Like you didn't just try to kick me off. I told you what my terms were. I didn't start it and I'll stop as soon as you call off your dogs, and they obey you.

Like you didn't just try to kick me off. I told you what my terms were. I didn't start it and I'll stop as soon as you call off your dogs, and they obey you.

What are you, a fucking four-year-old?

What's next? "I know you are but what am I?"

Asshole.

Lee seriously suck my cock.

Geez, PLV, would you please just shut the fuck up already? I mean, COME ON! Your slapfights with Brew and The Warden are bad enough, but now you're gonna dictate terms to ace on His. Own. Blog? Does the phrase "bringing a knife to a gunfight" have any meaning to you, amigo?

As far as trolls here at the AoSHQ go, the gold standard is "Herr who shall not be named", and everyone else. He got banned, and you couldn't even carry his national socialist jockstrap, so why do you think you couldn't suffer the same fate?

Like you didn't just try to kick me off.

What? Why would I try to kick you off then warn you?

I'm quite serious, fucktard. You're very entertaining. You're as dumb as a bag of retards.

I don't want to kick you off, but I'm feeling bossy today, so, respect my authoritah dickweed or smell the glove.

Oh, you mean "suck" this time and not "sock?"

Or are you trying to learn new insults this week? You have got to have one of the most limited repertoires I have ever come across.

If it wasn't you Ace then it must be someone else because someone was blocking the noname moniker for which there is a very simple work around.

Lee do you expect me to be nice to you as long as you are calling me a retard? How fucking clueless are you exactly?

I do not expect you to be nice to me. When did I ever ask for that?

Plus, I never called you a retard. Sure, you have terrible grammar and a very limited vocabulary, but 'retard' seems a bit strong.

I just think you're stupid.

Stupid is so much better. I would tell you what I think of you but I'm afraid you wouldn't be able to handle it, given how sensitive you are.

Yeah, I'm a real sensitive guy.

Personally, I could give two shits what you think of me, since "thinking" doesn't exactly seem to be your strong suit.

By the way Ace, since you now claim you were not trying to ban me what did you mean by this?

"Actually, you'll stop now, "Veteran."

That sure sounds like the bravado of someone about to make a feeble attempt at banning someone.

To quote "UHF..."

"You so stupid!!!"

"Personally, I could give two shits what you think of me, since "thinking" doesn't exactly seem to be your strong suit."

Wow such bitting wit from the grammer queen. At least we now have something in common because I don't give a shit what you think of me either.

Well, then. We agree on something. How sweet.

I see you still can't spell "grammar," though.

"I see you still can't spell "grammar," though."

Sue me.