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Irony In Black and WhiteAfter linking Florida Cracker's quote of a hate-whitey writer in the Amsterdam News -- she wrote "shed no tears for the white coal miners[,] they will be taken care of" -- I went off on a riff: Yeah, those Appalachian coal miners just had it too f'n' good, didn't they? Tradin' on their "white skin privilege" to claim cushy, glamorous jobs in their fancy-pants coal mines with their gold-plated flashlight-helmets and plat-ee-num picks and shovels, driving home in their Lambourghinis to snort coke off the asses of movie stars in their million-dollar mansions. Okay, so the point is, you know, the assumption by some black people, espeically those who are racist against white people, that we're all rich, right? Comes the rebuttal: Dont know Mr.Phelps, nor have I ever read his writings. First of all, Phelps is a white anti-gay nutter. I'm not making a "gotcha" issue of that; he's a fairly obscure figure. I'm just noting it, because Florida Cracker (and I) both slammed this f'n' maniac too. And he was "one of us." But based on the posts I am reading from you White people, you seem to have a preoccupation with Black thought, and all things and people Black. Actually, no. I've barely written about black issues here, or white-black disagreements. Partly because it's just not one of my top interests; partly because it's an f'n' minefield I just don't have the concentration to tip-toe through. Here is a something to consider; why dont you continue to live in your White only world, continue to worhip, play, and work with only Whites. I will do the same in my Black world, and we will all just pretend that the other race does not exist? Rantings from some Black writer in Harlem will not effect your life style, your numerous government protections, or Mommy and Daddy's trust fund one insey bit. I find it amusing that, after knocking this odd belief that all whites are rich (PS, I'm not, born poor and as of yet "staying true to my roots"), this guy comes in here to talk about our "trust funds." And doubly funny is this is most likely one of those leftist guys who will trot out the statistic that 1% of the people in this country own or control 50% of the wealth in the country, or whatever numbers they offer. (The numbers seem to shift all the time; they don't seem to actually know what the exact figures are, but they know that, essentially, rich people have more money than the rest of us. Which seems sort of obvious, but for some it's apparently a revelation). And yet he'll see no contradiction in offering that factoid and ranting about "trust fund whiteys." If 1% of Americans own or control 50% of the wealth in this country (and, look, Oprah and Michael Jordan alone own about 10% of that, nevermind that nitwit from BET), doesn't that sort of sharply limit the number of whiteys who could possibly be trust-fund babies? By the way, I point out genuine anti-black racism when I see it, and in fact banned one poster here for engaging in it. If racism is a bad thing, shouldn't we all be committed to exposing racism of all kinds? I guess not. Right, only whites can be "racist." Because we have the "power." Like those coal miners. They had lots of power, right? So they could be racists, whereas a writer (generally considered a higher-status job than coal-miner) can't be. posted by Ace at 01:41 PM
CommentsAs a member in good standing of the Whitey tribe, I would also like to complain that my numerous avenues of filthy lucre (government protections, Mommy & Daddy's untold wealth, etc.) have so far failed to pay off. All the government seems to want from me is more property-tax money to pay for ever-crappier public schools; my legacy from my parents was mainly an object lesson in "make your own way in the world, kid". Does it seem to anyone else that all the tropes of the sixties -- the sloganeering, the pseudo-feminist bilge, the anti-military screeds, and now the race-baiting -- are percolating to the top of the national conversation again? But I take comfort from the fact that it's fairly marginalized; black wrtiers like Star Parker, LaShawn Barber, Thomas Sowell, and others put the lie to the notion that there is some kind of monolithic "black opinion", any more than there is any pervasive consensus among whites. The whole thing just stinks of sixties radicalism to me. Get with the times, dude. Those days are over. And good riddance to them. Posted by: Monty on January 8, 2006 01:53 PM
These people think wealth and success are a product of luck, and not hard work. This causes resentment and an unwillingness to take responsibility for one's situation. Posted by: Rip on January 8, 2006 02:14 PM
We hear a lot about the KKK but little about other extremists like the infamous BLACK PANTHERS and what about the extremists like LOUIS FARIKHAN and his nafarious NATION OF ISLAM Posted by: spurwing plover on January 8, 2006 02:28 PM
loose shit - open bold tag between Colbert and Hate-Whitey Posted by: moflicky on January 8, 2006 02:45 PM
My brother went to University of Chicago. At the time we made about $40,000 a year, for 6 people. It's interesting to meet all the rich friends he's made, and hopefully score some food off of. The guys on my floor of the dorm are also all richer than me this year, so I do feel the Whitey-hatin' come over me, even though I'm very white. Posted by: Greg on January 8, 2006 03:09 PM
Don't sweat it. Tatum had nothing to say, so he made up some shit, knocked down some straw men that he set up based on his prejudices, and asked you to stay away from his doodling. I find the I'll isolation myself you do the same idea an interseting suggestion from a newspaper man... Posted by: slickdpdx on January 8, 2006 03:29 PM
Ace is currently laying on the floor, head on keyboard. An empty 1.75 of val-u-rite at his feet, bottle of klonopin open with pills sticking to his face. The TV blares Carolina 20 NY 0. Sad Ace, sad. Posted by: Dave @ on January 8, 2006 03:32 PM
The real shame in all of this is that Amsrerdam News' website is sponsored by UPS and AT&T. Posted by: Bart on January 8, 2006 04:06 PM
... If racism is a bad thing, shouldn't we all be committed to exposing racism of all kinds? I guess not. Right, only whites can be "racist." Because we have the "power." ______________________________ That being said, most white supremacists, as well as islamofascists claim that Jews have the "power." By that logic, only jews can be racist since they hold all the power. BTW, I think stepping on all the mines can be just as fun as not entering the mine field of black/white relations. I don't understand racism or how someone could feel that way. But I do get a good chuckle when someone makes an off-color remark because they don't realise how stupid they sound. Just gives me a chuckle and I'm not sure why... BTW wouldn't hatred of jews be an ethnic prejudice rather than a racial prejudice? Posted by: Rich on January 8, 2006 05:12 PM
Mr Rebuttal wrote: Here is a something to consider; why dont you continue to live in your White only world, continue to worhip, play, and work with only Whites. I will do the same in my Black world, and we will all just pretend that the other race does not exist? Wow, and we could call it "separate but equal". We'll even get separate drinking fountains and restrooms. What a bold new idea. Posted by: Sortelli on January 8, 2006 05:18 PM
I believe whites make up about 77% of the population in 2000. 10% of whites live below the poverty level.* That's about 23 million poor white people. Blacks make up like 12% of the population (2000). About 23% of blacks live below the poverty level.* That's like 8.3 million poor white people. * http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/povrace.html Posted by: Bill from INDC on January 8, 2006 07:42 PM
Sorry, last line should say "...like 8.3 million poor black people." Posted by: Bill from INDC on January 8, 2006 07:43 PM
But it's about percentages in the 'oppressed peoples' game. Wonder what percentage of Hispanics, including illegals, lives below the poverty level? You can't keep them from coming to America, and I never hear them complain. They work their asses off and get shit done. Posted by: chip on January 8, 2006 08:28 PM
Wonder what percentage of Hispanics, including illegals, lives below the poverty level? 22% in 2000. Posted by: Bill from INDC on January 8, 2006 08:34 PM
The 'poverty level' in the US is a meaningless and arbitrary calculation when you consider what poverty means in the rest of the world. Posted by: lauraw on January 8, 2006 08:46 PM
And that was a meaningless post when you consider the topic at hand. Posted by: lauraw on January 8, 2006 08:47 PM
lauraw: Absolutely right. This has got to be the only society in history where you can be "poor" and still afford two color televisions (with cable!), two cars, groceries (and not just staples), and clothes that even well-off people in the third world would envy. Even the homeless in America are better off than about 50% of the people in India or sub-Saharan Africa. Think about it: illegal Mexican immigrants are willing to chance robbery, rape, and even death to get here -- just to make minimum wage at some menial job, most of which they send home. And it's still better than where they came from, by a long way. Posted by: Monty on January 8, 2006 08:51 PM
I think Larry Elder wrote that if "Black America" were it's own country, it would have the 10th largest economy in the world. In the world. That's oppression? The middle class among blacks is sizable and keeps growing. The fact that some black neighborhoods in urban areas (and some rural) remain in perpetual squalor is hardly the fault of the white man. But it's much easier to couple racism with a victim complex and blame "rich whiteys" than it is to self evaluate and work towards something better. Posted by: UGAdawg on January 8, 2006 08:52 PM
Wonder what percentage of Hispanics, including illegals, lives below the poverty level? You can't keep them from coming to America, and I never hear them complain. They work their asses off and get shit done. I'll endorse Chip's comment. Last summer I had a new roof put on my house. I contracted with the firm chosen by my insurance company (the new roof was required because of hail damage). Turns out, the crew was all Hispanic. The only one who spoke English was the crew chief (female) who occasionally showed up to check on the work. I couldn't help but be impressed by how hard these guys were working in the baking hot summer sun. They were fast, they were efficient, and you could see if you watched them that they took pride in the quality of their work. So I got a new roof. I doubt that any of those guys were in the country legally. When I lived in Texas, I saw this all the time. Hispanics working their asses off, and doing a great job. It's hard for me to get excited about the porosity of our southern border. Posted by: Michael on January 8, 2006 09:14 PM
Illegal immigration is creating a caste system, which I'm very uncomfortable with. What we need to do is dramatically increase the number of legal immigrants we accept from Mexico. I'm pro-immigration and pro-immigrant (being the child of immigrants), but we have to make it above-board. Posted by: SJKevin on January 8, 2006 09:18 PM
I'm pro-immigration and pro-immigrant (being the child of immigrants), but we have to make it above-board. Yeah, I agree with that. I'm not at all threatened at the thought of people coming here looking to do good and I don't want them to be exploited for their efforts. Posted by: Sortelli on January 9, 2006 01:51 AM
Racism does go both ways. Perhaps the more PC term wold be "racialisism," but it's the same thing. Is not "racism" basically "determining a person's character, importance, and stereotypes based on one's ethnicity/skin color"? I feel sad that I can get away with making remarks that people with white skin cannot. I really feel sorry for people with white skin. You have to unnecessarily take so much dreck. The way I see it, if "Black Power!" is acceptable, so should "White Power!" be. And if there are African and Latino departments in universities, there should be European and Anglo-Saxon departments. Equality to people of all origins, including those of European extraction, who basically, y'know, built this Nation up. My family has consistently had one belief: if someone doesn't like something here, they're welcome to go away. My parents immigrated here from South Asia. They love it here. Sure, we make racist jokes, but we lambast all groups, even our own. For those of our ethnicity (South Asian) who're fond of attacking people with white skin, Jews, or America, my mother says: "They should pack up and move back." For the record, in all the time I have interacted with Americans and lived in the US, I have only once had a racist comment slung against me. (I was little. And confused: they told me to go back where I came from. But I came from the US, y'know. When I asked what the guys meant, my mother gave them a piece of her mind. Today, I find it amusing, really, rather than bothering.) And yet, I have heard racist remarks against people with white skin far more often than anything said or done by people of white skin against people with non-white skin. Yes, there is a significant race problem in the US. And, sadly, we're not addressing even half of it. Every time a minority says he/she deserves something by virtue of his/her race, he/she is perpetuating racism and is, in fact, racist. And there is no benign racism. For the record, I absolutely hate the phrase "people of color." Yes, my skin is not white. But isn't white also a color? And just because my skin isn't white doesn't mean I'm so different from people with white skin or so similar to other ethnicies. Whenever someone refers to me by that term - and it's always someone who is not white - a wave of rage sweeps through me. Why? Because I am not racist, and "people of color" is an inherently racist term. I don't care who calls me that: It. Does. Not. Describe. Who. I. Am. At. All. Here's something that puzzles me: Egypt is considered to be part of Africa. Are Egyptian Americans, therefore, African Americans? Are they Arab Americans? If an Egyptian American applies for a job, can he/she get double affirmative action benefits, because he/she is African and Arab? Should African departments in universities teach Arabic also? :-) How much further can I mess up this situation? American Power! Posted by: Muslihoon on January 9, 2006 01:48 PM
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