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January 05, 2006

More on Metrocons

Ilyka's pretty annoyed at the whole deal.

I thought this was pretty spot-on:

[I'm against] this insistence on declaring a subset of conservatism and applying a cutesy name to it, like, say, "Metrocon:"

See also: Crunchy Cons.

Do you notice how the proponents of these subsets are always really vain guys who want to place themselves into these subsets because they think they're better than plain old regular conservatives? "Unlike those ordinary conservatives, I buy my arugula from the farmer's market." "Unlike those ordinary conservatives, I do not wear Old Spice."

No one ever says, "Yeah, I like to think of myself as a Dumbhick Conservative," or "I'm really more of a JerkyCon, myself."

The subset always flatters the guy who identifies it. It's pure vanity.

True. It's also something that's really annoying about Andrew Sullivan. He's constantly attempting to redefine conservativism to better fit him (i.e., as liberalism), but also constantly patting himself on the back for not being one of those kinds of conservatives.

There is something juvenile about all that. I don't know what kind of conservative I am exactly; most of you don't know your exact political subspecies either, and I'm sure you don't have a cutesy name for whatever you are. There is the whiff of adolescent narcissism in this whole name-game thing. It's kind of like setting up a club with a kewwwwl name and hoping some other kids (hopefully either as kewl as you are even slightly kewler) will join and follo your clubhouse rules.

God, I hate Andrew Sullivan. Have I ever mentioned that?


posted by Ace at 11:48 PM
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Ace, the Communists for Kerry website people might fit in with that "MetroCon" sort of tag. They're in NYC afterall.

Posted by: Vladimir on January 5, 2006 11:50 PM

Spot on. Yet familiar.

Do I remember that post simply because I'm referred to therein as "the Great Allah"?

I'll never tell.

Posted by: Allah on January 5, 2006 11:58 PM

The really, really cool conservatives call themselves "Yorl-Cons".

Posted by: Enas Yorl on January 6, 2006 12:20 AM

I am an "old fart" conservative. You reckon there's any more like me out there'

Posted by: Rock on January 6, 2006 12:21 AM

I really, really hate broadcasters who call him "conservative columnist" Andrew Sullivan

Posted by: rakmjn1 on January 6, 2006 12:43 AM

What's wrong with being a JerkyCon?

Posted by: Saul Rosenberg on January 6, 2006 12:48 AM

Acey, I don't care what subspecies you are in as long as I can do the secret dirty handshake on you when you show up at my clubhouse.

Posted by: Feisty on January 6, 2006 12:49 AM

Hunka-Hunka Burnin' Con

Posted by: geoff on January 6, 2006 12:56 AM

Wait... She's blogging again? Whatever happened to the 'blogging in drag' masterplan?

Posted by: someone on January 6, 2006 01:51 AM

I don't know why anyone would be surprised that Sullivan would try to redefine conservatism to better suit him. He's a Catholic and has been trying to redefine Catholicism to suit his proudly homosexual lifestyle. It's just what he does.

Posted by: SheridJo on January 6, 2006 02:08 AM

Anyway, it seems to me that the main problem with these "____ Con" things is that they usually (e.g. Murtha-loving Dreher) translate to "Not Conservative".

Posted by: someone on January 6, 2006 02:51 AM

I consider myself a South Park Conservative. If you don't like that then screw you guys... I'm goin' home.

Posted by: Biff Boff on January 6, 2006 03:50 AM

C.S. Lewis actually referred to this mindset in one of his essays (though I don't recall which)--in the context of religious belief, of course. The person in question doesn't so much hold a consistent set of beliefs, as a consistent position relative to whatever group of people happen to be in his company at the time. (Always 'slightly higher' in his own estimation, of course.)

Among the devout, he counts himself the only one intellectually curious enough to have doubts, or broad-minded enough to also be conversant with secular culture and the material world.

Among the materialists and skeptics, on the other hand, he considers himself equally superior because, of course, he has a spiritual sensitivity, a devotion, and a 'higher life' that they lack.

Hence, I'm sure Andrew Sullivan makes himself just as insufferable at a liberal cocktail party as he does in the conservative blogosphere.

Posted by: alex on January 6, 2006 04:43 AM

I'm a Futurama Consverative. No idea what that means, but it sounds cool.

Posted by: Pixy Misa on January 6, 2006 05:00 AM

I'm with Biff Boff, I became a Republican because someone promised me cake and pie.

Where is the cake and pie?

Posted by: monkeyboy on January 6, 2006 08:10 AM

Cocksman Conservative here.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos on January 6, 2006 08:42 AM

"[A]dolescent narcissism." Perfect! That is Sully to a T. One of these days he will stop trying to justify his homosexuality and actually say some interesting things. Or his dementia will progress and he will lose readers. He lost me a few months ago.

Posted by: Daniel Lapin on January 6, 2006 09:11 AM

Actually Ace, I *do* have a cutesy name for my brand of conservatism:

I'm a Cthulucon (Lovecrafticon?).

Hey, if we're going to conserve anything, it oughta be eons-old undying evil from beyond the stars, don't ya think?

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on January 6, 2006 09:36 AM

Damn, that's Cthulhucon. I hate that f'ing extra h.

Oh well, I just hope I didn't peeve off my Master with my insult.

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on January 6, 2006 09:37 AM

I guess I'm a Dwindle-Con.

My respect for the conservative party has just about dwindled away. Isn't it time for a true libertarian movement to restore this nation to adherence of the constitution? To restore limited government and states rights? To reverse this disgusting and constitutionally illegal leviathan of a federal government?

Hopeless under the current 2-party system. The parties are basically identical except when it comes to God and abortion. Pathetic.

Posted by: Mussolini on January 6, 2006 09:38 AM

The same usually applies to all "end of days" scenarios, be it Peak Oil, the Rapture, Socialist Utopia, Redneck Survivalism, all seem to have in common the fact that they stroke the adolescent wish-fulfillment fantasies of whoever trumpets them, and promise sweet retribution against whoever made fun of them in gym class.

Posted by: Tom on January 6, 2006 09:52 AM

When I was in 5th grade, my friends and I had a club called the Wolverines (named, naturally, for the resistance fighters in the movie Red Dawn).

As such, I'm officialy declaring myself a "Wolverine-con." Obviously, all other -cons such balls in comparison to Wolverine cons. Membership is open, for now, so don't miss your chance to not suck balls!

Posted by: Beck on January 6, 2006 10:19 AM

metrocons just anew relation to the decepticons AUTOBOTS TRANSFORM AND MOVE OUT

Posted by: spurwing plover on January 6, 2006 10:35 AM

My respect for the conservative party has just about dwindled away. Isn't it time for a true libertarian movement to restore this nation to adherence of the constitution? To restore limited government and states rights? To reverse this disgusting and constitutionally illegal leviathan of a federal government?

The only way a strong libertarian movement will arise is if they knock off that crap about legalizing all drugs. They lose too many people with that platform, and they've made it their own "If nothing else, we will accomplish this" issue, and no one wants to get behind it.

Posted by: Stacy on January 6, 2006 10:44 AM

Is Andrew Sullivan even still around?

Posted by: beautifulatrocities on January 6, 2006 11:19 AM

Andrew Sullivan - conjob

Posted by: on January 6, 2006 11:47 AM

As the traditional cons have argued in other contexts, many neo cons of whatever stripe are not really conservative except on a few issues. So they really are different. That said, I do think that some of the impulse is to establish that the person has some conservative views but is not a country club republican or a religious right conservative.

BTW weren't you embracing the term/phenom "South Park Conservatives" not too long ago?

Posted by: slickdpdx on January 6, 2006 11:52 AM

I resent those comments about Andrew Sullivan. Perhaps Andrew Sullivan is a bit vain, even somewhat emotional at times. But it fills Andrew Sullivan with heart-ache to no end to see what our president has done to the conservative movement.

Andrew Sullivan is going to take a three month sabattical to write a book about my kind of conservatism: brilliant, cunning, witty, sexy conservatism. I'll call is BCWSC. I think it shall catch on.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan on January 6, 2006 12:04 PM

That 3rd person shit is priceless Sully...

surf-actant

Posted by: surf-actant on January 6, 2006 12:27 PM

I'm a Suburdacon, or maybe a Retrocon, or maybe a Tennessecon.

Posted by: Red Jode on January 6, 2006 12:36 PM

shooty-con

Posted by: mike on January 6, 2006 02:08 PM

Andrew Sulivan and Starscream are partners

Posted by: spurwing plover on January 6, 2006 08:58 PM
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