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December 27, 2005

Media Critics In A Tizzy Because Reporter Helped Underage Kid Get Out Of Child-Porn

Apparently journalists have their own Hypocratic oath, which begins, "First, do no good:"

In the same column by Howard Kurtz, he also reports on a New York Times reporter,Kurt Eichenwald, who was doing a story about child pornography. In the course of reporting on the story he came to know a 18-year-old boy who was filming pornography in order to support his drug habit. Eichenwald persuaded the boy to give up drugs and start cooperating with the FBI to stop other children from being lured into this world and to arrest some of the ringleaders.

You and I might think that this was a good thing. No one should stand by and see other children pulled into such a life if we could stop it. But in the crazy ethics of journalists, this becomes a serious question....

Jack Shafer of Slate does not think that this is what journalists should be doing and he has some questions about Eichenwald's involvement in the child porn story.

What extraordinary intervention! The analogies aren't perfect, but imagine a Times reporter encountering an 18-year-old who had been thrust into the illicit drug business at 13 as a consequence of his neglectful family and unscrupulous dealers? Would he help the young man leave the drug trade and find him a lawyer at a Washington firm who is "a former federal prosecutor," as Eichenwald did Berry? Not likely. Would a Times reporter extend similar assistance to an 18-year-old female prostitute? An 18-year-old fence? A seller of illegal guns? No way.

To the argument that Eichenwald deserves our praise for aiding the adult Berry, who has been victimized, I offer this counterargument: Hasn't the Times put the next reporter assigned to the online pornography story into a nasty jam? Will the just-turned-18-years-old subjects expect future reporters to 1) help get them a lawyer who will 2) assist them in becoming witnesses for the prosecution, because Eichenwald helped Berry? Will online pornographers and other allied criminals now regard reporters as agents of the state? Don't be surprised if they start treating reporters as cops.

You know, they had a non-interference code on Star Trek called the Prime Directive. And Kirk violated that all the time.

Reporters are not only reporters before they're Americans -- we already knew that from Mike Wallace -- but they're reporters before they're human beings.

I wonder what Jack Schafer would do if he happened to come upon a car wreck upon the highway. Would he immediately begin typing up a story on his Blackberry as the victims slowly died from blood-loss? Or would he assist the victims? I certainly hope he'd do the latter.

It should be noted that reporters "interfere" in events by the simple act of reportage. Reporting changes things. The Plame story was not an issue until the MSM, goaded by left-wing bloggers, decided to make it such. Is the invention of controversaries less objectionable than helping a drug-addict involved in underage porn out of his horrific situation?

Apparently so, at least according to the Doyennes of Journalistic Ethics.

I'm not even sure they believe this crap. I just think they like talking about themselves, and it's easiest to write about yourself. We'll see a lot of MSM chin-stroking, hand-wringing, and pud-pulling over this non-issue simply because it's easy and fun to bang out column-inches talking about yourself and your friends.

And yet, you know, they have this major code against making themselves part of the story.

Riiiiiight.


posted by Ace at 03:35 PM
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They are taking on the same oath as naturalist film makers. You know, the ones who will stand by and film a baby seal being eaten by a polarbear, when they could have warned it or taken other actions. It's exactly like that.

They are there to observe and record.

Posted by: carin on December 27, 2005 03:40 PM

We'll see a lot of MSM chin-stroking, hand-wringing, and pud-pulling over this non-issue simply because it's easy and fun to bang out column-inches talking about yourself and your friends.

Pud-pulling -- You have such a way with words.

Posted by: adolfo velasquez on December 27, 2005 03:41 PM

If they were consistent, they'd recuse themselves from voting, jury duty, etc. This puts me in mind of two passages from a certain literary classic:

Ethics: 1.Opposite of morality (grounded in self-esteem rather than humility). 2. Unwritten law by which intellectuals govern their behavior. Ethics vary according to group allegiance, but can always be determined by graduates of ethics courses.

Morality: Lowbrow populist substitute for ethics. Requires less education, but more religious training, often of an unsavory Judeo-Christian variety. (See Judgmental)

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Posted by: Dave Munger on December 27, 2005 03:47 PM

Jack Schafer is no Captain Kirk.

Posted by: Wickepdinto on December 27, 2005 03:47 PM

Maybe this is why Shepard Smith didn't haul all those New Orleans people on the bridge to the parked buses. OR give them food and water?

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle on December 27, 2005 03:51 PM

EXACTLY, RWS. Now, how do we convince Hollywood that they should have a similar oath?

Posted by: carin on December 27, 2005 03:53 PM

And yet, you know, they have this major code against making themselves part of the story.

Well, Mary Mapes didn't go to the rodeo to collect the Bush files from Lucy Ramirez. She had Bill Burkett do it. Why? Because she didn't want to violate the Prime Directive. For that reason, Mary Mapes is a way better reporter than Kurt Eichenwald. That, and her eerie-scary ability to deny her naked partisanship and Bush-hatred with a face that launched won a thousand ships Texas Hold 'Em tournaments.

Posted by: Tongueboy on December 27, 2005 04:02 PM

The strike-outs showed up on preview. Hmmmm....

Posted by: Tongueboy on December 27, 2005 04:03 PM

Wasn't there a kerfuffle a few years back over Dr. Janjay Gupta, CNN's medical correspondent, helping with heart surgery, and by so honoring his Hypocratic oath, possibly violating his Vulturcratic (ie journalistic) oath?

Posted by: holdfast on December 27, 2005 04:13 PM

Dr. Gupta made the mistake of using his MD skeels in Iraq.

Posted by: Mike Toner on December 27, 2005 04:45 PM
It should be noted that reporters "interfere" in events by the simple act of reportage. Reporting changes things.

Perfect. Exactly. It's Schroedinger's Cat on the non-quantum level. What a joker like Shafer doesn't understand is that he's already interfering. He doesn't have a choice about that. His only choice is choosing HOW to interfere. And I guess he's chosen "By being a self-absorbed, faux-disinterested dipshit."

Posted by: ilyka on December 27, 2005 04:46 PM

Reporters are like the Borg but without the finely tuned moral nuance .

I suppose their emphasis on their 'journalistic' ethics are largely a defense mechanism to prevent any form of introspective analysis which might be somewhat uncomfortable .

Dregs.

Posted by: dougf on December 27, 2005 05:03 PM

Wait, isn't the NYT that newspaper where reporters just make things up? How much do you want to bet that Kurt Eichenwald fabricated his "rescue"?

Posted by: Regret on December 27, 2005 05:04 PM

I heard a piece-which I tried to link here, but your spam filter found the web site to be questionable content, so go to the place I mentioned hearing it on and search for NYT and the name of the reporter-- on NPR by a former Pulitzer Prize winning former NYT reporter (Liane Hansen) who praised the NYT for actually reporting on something extremely difficult and not just walking away with a story.


Posted by: Rae on December 27, 2005 05:10 PM

I guess it's like the rule of nature photography. You are not supposed to interfere with nature. You know, save the baby cheetah from the hyenas.

Posted by: Mialexa on December 27, 2005 05:21 PM

Whoops, sorry I realize the first commenter said the same thing! I am nothing if not redundant. By the way all men are GAY!!!

Posted by: mialexa on December 27, 2005 05:23 PM

Based on my reading of Schafer's article and the give and take between him and Eichenwald it seems to me that had Eichenwald not been able to convince Berry to turn himself in he would have let those children go on being molested and possibly killed.

Here is the pertinent part of Eichenwald's response:

"Of course, we could have reported these crimes to the government ourselves—but I thought that crossed a line from reporter to witness. Plus, there were source confidentiality issues in play at that point—how do I reveal this, without revealing the source?"

What kind of a self-important duechebag thinks that his own navel-gazing self image as a "reporter" trumps his obligation as a human being to save children (or anyone frankly) from being abused or killed? How many times were those children molested while he tried to get Justin Berry to take the responsibility from him? What if Justin Berry had ultimately said "No". I shudder to think.

That said, obviously Jack Schafer is even worse. Was it just me or did he equivocate drug/weapons dealing with a child molestation ring? All are bad, one is infinitely worse, get a clue dickhead.

Posted by: Big E on December 27, 2005 05:26 PM

Am I correct that doctors and lawyers cannot use a confidentiality defense if they have ongoing knowledge of criminal actions?

Posted by: roc ingersol on December 27, 2005 05:48 PM

Reminds me a bit of my girlfriend back in college who had her picture snapped by a newspaper photographer after flipping her car over and becoming trapped underneath.

The fucker was the 1st person on the scene and his 1st priority was to get a shot.

Posted by: The Warden on December 27, 2005 05:57 PM

Am I correct that doctors and lawyers cannot use a confidentiality defense if they have ongoing knowledge of criminal actions?

I don't know about doctors, but lawyers have a duty to disclose confidential information in order to prevent a client from committing a crime, or to prevent a death or substantial bodily harm to another. (We still can't disclose where the body is.)

Since the passage of Sarbanes Oxley, a subset of corporate lawyers working for publicly traded companies have additional disclosure duties relating to the prevention of fraud.

Posted by: Michael on December 27, 2005 06:54 PM

Doctors, Nurses and EMS personel are required to report even suspected abuse or neglect of children or dependent adults. I believe that's a federal law, but don't quote me on that.

Posted by: jmon on December 27, 2005 07:52 PM

...save the baby cheetah from the hyenas. My ass... they threw the baby cheetah to the hyenas so they could get the shot... I like those When Animals Attack videos... videographer stands there while the mountain lion sneaks up and rips his buddy to shreds all the while shooting the footage and not warning his buddy... what a fjuckhead!

Posted by: Madfish Willie on December 27, 2005 08:46 PM

These dirty journanalists support child pornography yet support gun control what a bunch of dirty two faced rats

Posted by: spurwing plover on December 27, 2005 09:03 PM

Spurwing should be writing fortune cookies or something. It's becoming zen for me. I feel like I've entered a higher state of being.

Posted by: Sortelli on December 27, 2005 09:59 PM

All that is required for evil to win, is for good men to be reporters.

I'm pretty sure that is a famous quote of some sort...

Posted by: Gekkobear on December 28, 2005 01:13 PM

Now you see, Lone Starr, that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.

Posted by: Dark Helmet on December 28, 2005 01:45 PM
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