means more seal meat for us.

Does this include baby seal?

There will be enough baby seals to use some of them for clinical/biological experimentation. We could find a cure for cancer!

The rain forests sure haven't delivered on that hyped-up-hope.

They're a bunch of nasty bastards anyway.

mmmmmmm.........pie filling.

Yummy. Tastes like....owl.

Lubricants, medicines, fertilizers, fuel, pie filling.

Throw in some vodka, and we're talkin' the AoS Lifestyle.

Oiiiiiiil.

When will Haliburton become Big Seal?

If you spread powdered baby seal on your lawn in Fall, you won't have crabgrass in Spring.

Arthritis?

One caplet of seal cartilage per day for five weeks cures it.

Eskimos have perfect complexions.

Their secret?

You know.

Fetal seal stem-cells, when injected into lactating women, confer the power of psychokinesis to their nursing babies.*

*as well as the ability to snatch fish in their teeth while swimming underwater.

Its amazing how with all the information available to people, particularly now in this day of the internet and intellectual freedom, we as a people seem to be dumber than ever. For one of the most coherent and entertaining debunkings of global warming read State of Fear, Michael Chricton. He also puts forth a very plausible theory that explains the environment (no pun intended) which allows theories such as global warming to be put forth and "proved".

Yea he's only a story teller. Just like most of the morons who are espousing global warming. At least he has sex and violence in his stories. Oh, and facts.

Ice Station Zebra is completely down. No communications. No power. Nothing. And we don't know where the satellite came down.

I need Proud Liberal Chopper Jock.

I don't know what made me connect those thoughts.

Easy there, Rock, we all know that PLV is a man's man.

I mean, not a "man's man" like you, but a heterosexual man who likes girls a whole lot.

The way he fixates on "fags" is not an indicator of his latent homosexuality, not that there is anything wrong with that.

And it doesn't mean anything that he fellates his male teacher for money at school. Education is expensive. I mean, school lunch is expensive.

If you spread powdered baby seal on your lawn in Fall, you won't have crabgrass in Spring.

Can't beat that with a stick!

This baby seal walks into a club...

Bush lied, white bears died

Poppa Bear: Somebody ate my blubber!
Momma Bear: Somebody nibbled my narwhal!
Baby Bear : Somebody jacked my stash!
Poppa Bear:
Momma Bear:
Baby Bear : Halibearton!

I don't see what the big deal about the bears is. Obviously they deserve their fate for trying to recklessly plunder the resources of the shallow waters of mother Gaia.

If the bears tried CREATIVITY before CONSUMPTION they wouldn't be in this mess. Do you know how many miles per penguin a polar bear gets? Not very much. Wasteful beasts.

According to the new research, four bear carcases were found floating in one month in a single patch of sea off the north coast of Alaska, where average summer temperatures have increased by 2-3C degrees since 1950s.

Hey, driving an SUV has not been for nothing! Dead bears! Woo Hoo!

In the 1960s, there were an estimated 10,000 polar bears in the world.

Nowadays, there's supposed to be 25,000.

Intuits and other tribes in Canada are getting more hunting permits because of the population explosion of the bears.

The bears are drowning because they're having to go much, much longer distances to find food (and no, they don't do most of their hunting on pack ice, unless they're really hungry because the land is covered with ice too - or if there are too many other bears in the area).

According to the new research, four bear carcases were found floating in one month in a single patch of sea off the north coast of Alaska

It might be an outbreak of beari-beari-beari-beari.

If a bunch of tundra-huggers are all so het up over polar bears drowning, we should put some oil platforms out in the water with dock areas where the bears can rest.

This is a plea to all republican bloggers/podcasters.

My name is Jason. I currently have a podcast at:

http://gravitybomb.blogspot.com/

...but I'll soon be moving to:

http://www.gravitybomb.org/

My world outlook is definitely described as mostly liberal/progressive, though not on all issues. For example I am pro-gun for strictly pragmatic reasons (I agree with the whole "..then only outlaws will have guns" argument). I also disagree with my fellow progressives when they make efforts to stop people like Ann Coulter from speaking. I feel Ann is one of the biggest fools out there but allowing her to speak not only makes our country stronger but it is a fundamental premise of a democracy.

But I've run into a dilemma.

I've been finding that my shows are awful one-sided for obvious reasons; I'm the only one producing it. I've been making an attempt to look around for sane -- and by that I don't mean "agree with me" -- opinions on current events and I can't say I've had a lot of luck finding any.

I figured my best shot was to hit up the Blogger Awards. Some of the top-voted sites were good, some not so good. I won't name names. My goal here isn't to start a slugfest. But this site (Ace of Spades) came up #1 and it strikes me as well-written, which is why I'm posting this here and appealing to the readership.

Here is my problem. There are two.

1) The press rarely seems to ask the hard questions and, compared to bloggers, seem to lag quite a bit on what's going on. Sure, they break the news but bloggers are on the skepticism, hardcore, and quickly.

2) Politicians don't answer honest, simple questions. A good example would be pretty much every Scott McClellan press briefing. Again, not looking for a slugfest. Just outlining my premise.

So tonight I'm writing up an outline for my podcast but I've got a problem. I'd like an answer to a very simple question but I doubt DeLay is going to take my calls. That question is this; "Bush claims that getting wiretaps expediently is paramount to the war on terror. If Bush is able, under law, to get a wiretap instantly and is only required to bring it before a judge within 72 hours for review, why then did he not use this mechanism which is already there to use?"

But let me beat home a point -- I'm not looking for an answer to that question, only trying to outline a problem.

Here is what I'm looking for.

I'd like to get together a few (1-4) conservative bloggers for regular IM chats. The only real requirement for these volunteers is that they be online somewhat regularly and that they be intelligent. The point of these forums is for us to have an intelligent debate about current events, often within hours of them happening, to discuss the situation. Granted, I could post that question to various webboards and the newsgroups but then I have a significant lag on the responses. Also, both of these forums tend to be populated by idiots. On both sides. I spent several years on a religious debate forum only to realize nobody listens to anybody else, they tend to just wait for their turn to talk.

I'm not interested in using the podcast to slam anyone, or make fun of anyone. My goal here is to educate all the participants and find out where each other stands. Back to my example, maybe there is a good reason that Bush went above and beyond what appears to be his Constitutional bounds but for the life of me I can't find anything online that even addresses the question, much less answers it.

There will be no set "hours," I just want to gather a short list of instant messanger names so that if I want the "other side's" take on a situation, I can get a thoughtful reply in a timely manner. I, of course, will reciprocate the favor.

I might be moving to a live format soon if readership and finances allow. If it moves to a live format, and I have some good dialogue with these volunteers, it might very well turn into a sort of right vs. left podcast. Again, I'm a big fan of exploring a problem, not simply screaming the party line. In fact I hate that.

Also, if anyone has any alternate solutions to my problem, I'm all ears. And if there are even any suggestions beyond what I've specifically asked, I'm open to that too.

eMail: bodhisoma@gmail.com
AIM: bodhiFive

Thanks for reading.

Regards,
Jason/bodhi

PS: To the author of Ace, if you would be willing to post this as one of your entries, I would be grateful. I also would not object to you redacting my podcast URL as I'm not looking for you to advertise my site.

PPS: Also to the author of Ace, would you mind if I re-posted this request to another one or two of your comment threads. I will not without explicit permission from you (bodhisoma@gmail.com).

Intuits and other tribes in Canada

heh heh. Those pesky seal-hunting folks who just seem to know what it is you're thinking....

er. that was me.

Back to my example, maybe there is a good reason that Bush went above and beyond what appears to be his Constitutional bounds but for the life of me I can't find anything online that even addresses the question, much less answers it.

Try reading the comments of a blog before you solicit its participation in a half-assed venture. You know why I know it is half-assed? Because you say you can't "for the life of you" find anything online about this subject. CHECK THE BLOG YOU'RE HITTING UP. Yes, that means the comments, too.

Dumbass.

I'm not interested in using the podcast to slam anyone, or make fun of anyone. My goal here is to educate all the participants and find out where each other stands.

So, your goal is to "educate all participants" or to "find out where they stand" Well, which is it? Don't bother, you've given yourself away.

ooo, sign me up to be educated by someone who "for the life of him" can't find an internet discussion about the legalities of the wiretapping.

I'm getting my baby seal baseball bat ready as I read the comments here.

Holy schnikies. You guys are really pissed off!

Look, my goal here is simple. When I said I was here to "find out where they stand," what I mean is to get a conservative opinion. When I say "educate all participants," I'm referring to my listeners. It doesn't do them a lot of good if I just recite to them another progressive viewpoint. That's called "preaching to the choir."

If I can get some sort of roundtable discussion with some conservative bloggers, then I can have my positions challenged *before* I plan out my show.

Imagine that.

Maybe you guys are used to trolls out the wazoo or something. Doesn't it seem like a good idea to have some dialogue? I don't know about you but I think there are enough Michael Moores and Bill O'Reillys in the world. I don't intend to be another one.

And Lipstick, relax. As I stated, the reason I'd rather have some sort of real-time forum is so that I don't spend hours weeding through invective to find a good answer. If I have a couple of conserative bloggers on my IM list, I can say "hey, what do you think about xxx?" and get an intelligent, rational answer in a couple of seconds.

Sure, I could post something on a blog/board/group but ...I just might get answers like the ones I got here [cough]. Also, it can take hours to have a meaninful discussion through a static medium like that.

What I'm anticipating will happen is that when I ask these questions, someone will provide a good answer and -- hey, guess what -- if it's a good argument then you'll hear me espouse a conservative opinion on my show. I've already pointed out two places where I already agree with most conservatives.

Do you all see some type of nefarious plot in this idea? What is the worst that could happen??

If you feel that this is disingenuous, where is the harm in taking me up on the offer? What hapepns if you you find I'm a pinko liberal bleeding-heart jackoff? Ok, you don't bother answering my questions any more.

The potential upside is that two sides start to understand each other instead of slanding each other.

Oh, the horror. =)

Regards,
Jason/bodhi

Yeesh Jason - I just took a look at your site, and the prospect for rational discussion looks bleak. You're working within such a profoundly liberal paradigm that we'd have to get back to first principles before we could enough common ground for a productive discussion.

But don't lose heart - the experiences of Kos, Atrios, and Josh Marshall show that there's a substantial and loyal audience for liberal echo chamber formats. You can be the Rush Limbaugh for the left.

Jason:

We generally like to have, uh..., "conversations" at least marginally related to the topic that the post started with. You posted 860 words with nary a mention of dead polar bears, melting ice, or warm globes. It doesn't matter how reasonable you think you sound, what you've done violates blog etiquette (bletiquette? *shudders*), thus the less than friendly reception.

However (bad analogy coming), if you insist on farting in church (alright, really bad analogy), here are some suggestions:

1. Occasionally use "like a Viking!", "slice like a hammer", or "needs more cowbell", for example, "I'd like to get together a few (1-4) conservative bloggers for regular IM chats, not in a gay way, like a Viking!"

2. Take occasional pot shots at "Filet O' Fish" (you know, sort of like "The Great Bambino" in The Sandlot. Just try to fit in).

3. Try haiku:

I'm seeking a foil
For my liberal podcast
Aw, come on, let's talk

4. Make a D&D reference: I've got a +1 microphone of podcasting. Anyone want to join my party?

Try it. Pretty soon the other commenters will be implying that you want to be Alan Colmes's man-whore.

Around here, that's almost like being called "brother".

Jason, if you really want to fit in here (or at any conservative blog), you really must learn how to shorten your comments. Nobody other than your leftist English professor wants to read your endless blah, blah, blahs. He/she never taught you that the more you can say with less, the better. Keep it simple, stupid!

Here is my problem. There are two.

One. I can't shut up.

Ok, so there's really only one problem.

C'mon, gang. It seems like Jason here approaches in good faith. Let us bring him before Dick Cheney to seek counsel in his quest. Cheney must decide whether to assist Jason or cock-punch him into outer space. It is not in our hands.

All Hail Dick Cheney.

There was once a man who loved baby seals as much as he hated meat, alchohol, and Jews. You know who that man was? That's right.

I've heard that there were seals on the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza, too.

[More Dick Cheney] There was so much snow in Washington DC that Dick Cheney had to take the chains off a torture suspect and put them on his car.

Put the enviromentalist wackos on the same chunk of ice with the poar bears and let the bears enjoy a delecacy they dont normaly get BURP

Disingenuous leftist jackoff proclaims:

I don't know about you but I think there are enough Michael Moores and Bill O'Reillys in the world. I don't intend to be another one.

I check his blog and find in his second post from the top:

I perform a little reality-check on the Chimp-in-Chief's so-called "plan."

Yes, I can't wait to have an intelligent, educational exchange with this fucknut. Let's all just do away with the "invective" and talk to each other, not at each other about the policies of our Chimp-in-Chief.

Since you're just so full of questions, pal, maybe I could ask a couple back at you: Why is dishonesty always the default starting point for you lefties and doesn't it make you ashamed ever?

Oh, God, I just realized that this douchebag has a total of 3 posts on his site!

Those are some real blogging chops, ya got there, troll.

Geooff, why the slam on Rush?

The potential upside is that two sides start to understand each other instead of slanding each other.

I got slanded once in high school. It really hurt.

If I can get some sort of roundtable discussion with some conservative bloggers, then I can have my positions challenged *before* I plan out my show

Can we still be friends? Absolutely. Will we talk? No.

HEY! I was gonna make a funny joke about yummy seal meat, and maybe some penguin humor, and NOW I'm working on podcasting.

how did that happen?

Geooff, why the slam on Rush?

Rush does a great job at providing a consistent, entertaining source of political commentary that is accessible to pretty much everybody. And in my opinion, his track record in political prognostication seems to be as good as anyone's. But he's not looking to provide a 'fair and balanced' perspective, nor is he looking to for his ideas or commentary to be seriously challenged.

But I really used Rush's name because I thought it would drive the point home more clearly for Jason. The point being that he cannot objectively 'explore the problem,' when he is at least as far to the left as Rush is to the right.

HEY! I was gonna make a funny joke about yummy seal meat, and maybe some penguin humor, and NOW I'm working on podcasting.

When distracted by nitwits, you should exercise fourbearance.

Hmm, in the middle of a lively discussing about clubbing baby seals (inter alia), liberal naif Jason pops in.

There is some karma at work here.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the bears were actually doing us a favor by keeping the seals from gaining power?

Without the check on their breeding programs, who knows what evil they could plot.

Seals were the real kidnappers of the Lindbergh baby.

It was the seals that framed Sacco and Vanzetti.

I caught my ex cheating on me with a seal. All those trips to Sea World -- I shd have figured out.

It it comes down to bears vs. seals, I'm on the side of the seals. I don't like anything that will eat you alive. That's what happened to Treadwell -- he was eatten alive. Took about 5 minutes before he lost consciousness.

It it comes down to bears vs. seals, I'm on the side of the seals. I don't like anything that will eat you alive.

Maybe the only reason seals haven't eaten anyone alive is because they haven't had the chance!

The seals are innocent, guys. They're getting framed by the puffins.

I know I'm going to regret this, but . . .

Who was Treadwell and who ate him?

Who was Treadwell and who ate him? Don't be coy, Michael, you big hunk of love you.

http://www.katmaibears.com/grizzlyattack.htm

There was a theater release of a documentary on him this fall. It shd be on video now. I haven't seen it, yet, but it's suppose to make him look like a total nut. Granted, he was a nut, but not a 100% nut. There is a much better, less biased book by Nick Jans, titled The Grizzely Maze.

fine. I'll be the one to say it.

Seal hasn't had a hit since that Crazy song.

and still, he scored Heidi Klum. where's a polar bear when you need him?

http://www.katmaibears.com/grizzlyattack.htm

Lynne Cheney prefers seal blubber as a personal lubricant for post-menopausal vaginal dryness. Dick Cheney is just eliminating a competitor...

with his cock.

Yikes! I had forgotten about that. Thanks for the link.

I think there came a point when I realized that I was perhaps engaging in the same sort of "caricature of the enemy" as I was accusing my enemy of. Hence this post.

As for my blogging history, I've been participating in sigs via local nets since around 1991, on the "web proper" and on the newsgroups since around 1993, blogging since 1990 and just a few months ago I began podcasting. I chose to rename my podcast and the name I came up with is GravityBomb.

I've even written two blog tools. The first computer I coded on recorded the program on punch cards. The first computer I owned myself recorded to an audio tape.

I'm not exactly new.

It seems that ...pretty much everyone here is scared out of their wits of having a rational conversation with a liberal, even if it is approached in good faith. Would it be fair to say that I've launched invective at the Bush admin? Sure. I'd like to tone that down and get to something a bit more useful. But what you won't find is me launching personal attacks on people I debate ideas with.

But hey, I tried. I have to admit, I expected a mixed bag response but I didn't expect a COMPLETE lack of goodwill. Especially on what is voted the best of the best in conservative blogs.

I posted the same request on Polipundit and while I may not have gotten any "takers," to their credit I didn't recieve one insult. I'm sure I'll find a couple of intelligent, willing participants. Just ...not here.

Regards,
Jason/bodhi

Awww...poor baby.

Whiny bitch.

What you can take away from your experience here Jason is what Sherlock Holmes cited as the dog that did not bark.

Notice how you were able to post multiple times without having a sign in and how your posts remain on this thread though they have absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Think about it.

I expected a mixed bag response but I didn't expect a COMPLETE lack of goodwill

The content of your website pretty much preciptitated the vitriol. Telling us you're looking for 'rational conversation,' but using the 'Chimp-in-Chief' as a topic, is contradictory and inflammatory. And so we're inflamed. Would you like to provide the liberal viewpoint (which we will interpret and present as we see fit) on a topic entitled "PIAPS: A Critique of Her So-Called 'Health Care?'"

Even if you thought you were sincere about your stated intent, the evidence suggests that you're unable to carry it through. And no one here is interested in providing you more fodder to slander the administration.

It seems that ...pretty much everyone here is scared out of their wits of having a rational conversation with a liberal, even if it is approached in good faith.

And another thing...you may be able to blow sunshine up your own ass about how reasonable you are, but calling the president "Chimpy in Chief" is not a good way to get a good debate going, know what I'm sayin'.

So next time you want to start a good faith discussion, learn to develop some.

Jays, insulting you is a sign of affection.
It means we like you.

We insult each other here constantly; don't take it the wrong way. And we disagree on a lot of topics, too.

For instance, many of the commenters at AoS (the best Conservative Blog for 2005) are homosexuals or are pro-homosexual, whereas I am not homosexual and believe homosexual acts are disgusting and immoral.

I'd be happy to join you in a blog (as long as you're not a homo).

Whaddaya say, do we have a deal, Jay?

I'd like to tone that down and get to something a bit more useful.

We're partial to Bushhitler. Try that one.

is it just one "h"? I never get that right.

It means we like you.

I think it means we may not dislike you, but insulting people is not a sufficient proof (of itself) of amity. But certainly the mild insults on this thread should not give offense to someone who calls the President of the United States the "Chimp-in-Chief" (and considers that to be a starting point for a rational discussion of war policies).

I said it once, and I'll say it again, there's nothing better than Chimpy McWeatherBurton

That's good, but Drunkya McPretzelchoker gets my vote.

Jase, my man, you have been preceded by countless trolls masquerading as well-meaning lefties interested in "dialogue". While it seems unfair to hold you responsible for the actions of others, this is the path you've chosen, well aware of the others who walk it. It's the same response I'd expect were I to suggest what you have to the dipshits at Pandagon or Kos.

I'd try another site--nobody takes anything seriously here and we like it that way.

George Double-Dumb McSwaggerBurton

The theme here seems to be that "if you've ever thrown invective at the conservative right, you must keep doing so."

...what?

Thanks for the replies. I've learned something. Not what I set out to learn, but...

Last post for me.

Regards,
Jason/bodhi

Think about it, Jas, my offer still stands. If you ever need a counterpoint to your homo-ness, I'm only a phone-call away.

By the way, how's your relationship with your dad?

Oh, Jason, lighten up.

Look, nobody knows you, and you're asking for this whole big "dialogue" thing on a joke thread.

If you really do want to have that dialogue, then instead of posting a three-page plea for dialogue, why not wait until a post comes up about a serious topic you're interested in, and chime in with your views? Huh? Don't just beg, give a little.

We've had a lot of trouble with leftist trolls, but if you're serious, you'll get into useful and fun discussions here. Start out by contributing something useful. Post an interesting on-topic counter-point or something.

Or, do what I do, and just hang around insulting Ace's sister. Whatever works.

Last post for me.

Regards,
Jason/bodhi

Promise?

Hey, let's have a dialogue! That Bush sure is an idiot, isn't he? Oh, and by the way, HALLIBURTON!

It seems that ...pretty much everyone here is scared out of their wits of having a rational conversation with a liberal, even if it is approached in good faith.

Oh good grief, Jason. It means nothing other than that we amuse ourselves by insulting lefties as much as we insult each other. Most of the regular commenters on this blog have either called me a homo, claimed I was impotent, alleged that they have ass-fucked me, opined that I am a retard, or bragged about banging Mrs. Michael (when she wasn't getting it from the pool boy).

Of course, much of that is true, but you get my point.

If you feel like we've been mean and your feelings are hurt, I encourage you to stick around. We'll get worse.

No, Michael, Jason is right. I am scared out of my wits of having a rationale conversation with a liberal.

Please don't call me a liberalophobe.

P.S. Yes, please stick around, we want to riducule the name of your blog -- GravityBomb.

How gay.

A perfectly good polar bear thread ruined!

The theme here seems to be that "if you've ever thrown invective at the conservative right, you must keep doing so."

Naw, the theme is: "if you've got no bona fides and appear to be a far-left KosKid, don't expect a warm reception from a conservative blog."

Plus, Jason, they make fun of me for blogging in a Batman suit, which I frankly don't understand, but that really stings. You just can't be thin-skinned around here.

Jason may say he's going to leave, but where else is he going to find a blog with threads a thousand posts long on Dick Cheney's cock?

The theme here seems to be that "if you've ever thrown invective at the conservative right, you must keep doing so."

December 8, 2005 | Bush's Political Posturing (24:09)
Another show that took way, way too long to produce.
Bush claims any concerns about Iraq is mere political posturing. I perform a little reality-check on the Chimp-in-Chief's so-called "plan."

Ohhhh....so you reformed yourself sometime between now and December 11th, have you? Good. I'll be ready for a rational debate as soon as I see an apology posted on your blog.

Make that December 8th, 11 days ago.

By the way, I myself drowned a sack full of fluffy, floppy-eared puppies on the 8th and documented it on my blog. I'm going to head over to PETA's site and see if they'd like to have a reasonable, adult conversation about animal rights.

If they react with hostility, I'll self-righteously sniff that I've "learned something" today, but not what I expected.

A perfectly good polar bear thread ruined!

see? this is why we can't have nice things!

FOOLS!!!

You've all been duped, can't you see? Isn't it obvious to you?? Jason never wanted dialogue and he wasn't even a liberal. He wasn't even human.

Did any of you notice he was covered in a thick layer of fat and white fur? I mean, MORE THAN THE REST OF US?

... and if that didn't give away who he really was and why he really had to disrupt our council on the solution to the polar bear problem, well, then his bizarre affection for Coca Cola should have made it clear.

They're already here, ladies and gentlemen. They're already here.

OK, but what does a big black dog's nose have to do with anything?

I've been the victim of disinformation! Behold the true face of our enemy.

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/ccmphtml/ccimages/w6613.jpg

Hate to say it, but I'm with anonymous. WTF with the dog's nose?

I think Sortelli has flipped out.

Next time those eco-freaks send you a letter urging you to oppse drilling in the ANWR or to SAVE THE POLAR BEARS send them MONOPOLY MONEY you see phonie money for their phonie crusuade

And while the kings of the polar ice, worn and emaciated, drown by the ones, twos, threes, and fours, the pinniped prols loll in corpulent splendor. Flippered moochers! State dependents! Hate them if you must; feed them if you dare, but never forget the pitiful plight of Nature's monarch, The Great White Bear. (cue Grey Seal)

Polar bears love enviromentalists wackos becuase they taste like seal