Twas the night before execution
And right on Death Row
Little Tookie couldn't sleep
He knew he was next to go.

"I'm innocent! I swear!"
Was Tookie's recurrent claim (100% of inmates polled said the same).
He'd just about finished taking his evening crap
After which he'd lie down for his last voluntary nap.

Then out in the courtyard he heard quite a roar
He sprang from his seatless toilet to try and learn more
As he gazed out his barred window he saw quite a scene

A gathering of stars like he'd never seen.
Cameras and microphones, oh what a sight!
By the looks of the crowd it could have been Oscar night!
There was Dreyfuss and Danson, Mike Farrell looked snazzy.
(All right maybe not "Oscar", but at very least "Razzie")

"Free Tookie!" they cried.
"He's a killer!" Arnold shot back.
"Yeah... well... that's not his fault.
He was born poor and black."

They protested quite fiercely as elitists can
When defending a murderer (his victims be damned).
But Arnold held firm and gave the thumbs down
The Hollywooders finally left with a collective frown.

Tookie stepped back from the window, resignation in his eyes
And thought-"Damn. A little more time I'd have nabbed the Nobel Peace Prize!"
There is one bright spot for Tookie as he nears his end of days
His t-shirt is finally outselling Che's.

That was bootiful, man.

Hang on Tookie, Tookie hang on!
Hang on Tookie, Tookie hang on!

Tookie lived in a very bad part of town
And everybody, yeah, tries to put my Tookie down
Tookie I don't care who you had to do.....
Cause you know Tookie, man, I'm in love with you
And so I sing out....

(sung by Snoop himself)

Does he deserve it? Yes.
Does it satisfy justice? Yes.
Do we mourn it? Few.
Do we mock it?

Sorry, guys.

To be completely fair, however, Mark's was quite good.

["Feelin' Groovy"]

Hello dirt bag, whatcha knowin'?
I come to watch your balls aglowin'!

Ain't ya got mo' crimes for me?
We're havin' our fun we're FRYIN' TOOKIE!

You gotta ask yourself whether its seemly for civilized people to be so callous about the state executing someone. I'm not saying he doesn't have it coming, but bottom line is that California is about to kill an old man for something he did 25 years ago. And unlike Abu Jamal, whose only accomplishments while incarcerated have been to regularly spout all kinds of idiotic leftist crap (and who shot a cop), this guy has done some good. Again, not saying that excuses his crimes, I'm just sayin'.

Tookie is the ghoul in the misty light,
Footsteps that you fear down the hall,
The laugh that floats on a summer night
That you wish you couldn't recall.
And you see Tookie on the train that is passing through,
Those eyes, how literate they seem;
He seemed a very changed man to you,
That was Tookie but he's only a dream.

Whose fault is it that the victims had to wait 25 years?

Civilized people don't carry on this way, unless they feel they've been denied something.

If this had happened all those years ago, there would be no sense of giddy relief.

But here we are, and here it is.

Sorry, Henry but bottom line is that California is about to kill an old man for something he did 25 years ago
doesn't cut it.

(From an anonymous poster earlier today...)

He shot gunned at close range:
Albert Owens, 26 y/o old twice in the back, Yen-I Yang, 76 y/o, arm and abd and chest, his wife, Tsai-Shai, 63 y/o, in the tail bone & abd and their daughter, Yee-Chen Lin, 43 y/o, in the face.

Two of his four victims older than he is now at 51.

California is an equal-opportunity state.
We are celebrating the diversity, don't you see?
Even old criminals can finally have a small measure of justice served to them.

The good he's done? Bullshit.
Arnold called him on it.
Not once in 'his' childrens' books did he talk about redemption, of facing personal responsibility, of fessin' up for crime, and finally apologizing for it.
He still hasn't done any of that.

The fact that he is an old man mitigates nothing. It's 25 years longer than that scumbag deserved to live.

The fucker (among other things) blew off a young girl's face with a shotgun and never apologized, repented, or even admitted to his crime.

Oh, but he's done "some good." Mmmmhmnmm. Maybe he should have spent his time helping the families of those he so casually robbed of their loved ones reconcile their grief instead of trying to weasle out of paying for his crime. That might have done "some good."

Self-serving statements and bullshit children's books aren't doing anyone but Tookie "some good." Thank God it wasn't enough for him.

And since when did we start crying tears at the idea of punishing in the harshest manner possible those who prey upon our children? In my opinion, this should be done without mercy, without remorse, and yes, with a sense of gleeful satisfaction at wreaking vengeance upon those who harm the most innocent and vulnerable among us.

I, personally, celebrate his death. I only wish they would have tortured him first. Fuck him. I hope he fucking rots in hell.

The dedication of Williams’ book “Life in Prison” casts significant doubt on his personal redemption. This book was published in 1998, several years after Williams’ claimed redemptive experience. Specifically, the book is dedicated to “Nelson Mandela, Angela Davis, Malcolm X, Assata Shakur, Geronimo Ji Jaga Pratt, Ramona Africa, John Africa, Leonard Peltier, Dhoruba Al-Mujahid, George Jackson, Mumia Abu-Jamal, and the countless other men, women, and youths who have to endure the hellish oppression of living behind bars.” The mix of individuals on this list is curious. Most have violent pasts and some have been convicted of committing heinous murders, including the killing of law enforcement.

But the inclusion of George Jackson on this list defies reason and is a significant indicator that Williams is not reformed and that he still sees violence and lawlessness as a legitimate means to address societal problems.

George Jackson was a militant activist and prison inmate who founded the violent Black Guerilla Family prison gang. Jackson was charged with the murder of a San Quentin correctional officer. In 1970, when Jackson was out to court in Marin County on the murder case, his brother stormed the courtroom with a machine gun, and along with Jackson and two other inmates, took a judge, the prosecutor and three others hostage in an escape attempt.

Shooting broke out. The prosecutor was paralyzed from a police bullet, and the judge was killed by a close-range blast to his head when the shotgun taped to his throat was fired by one of Jackson’s accomplices. Jackson’s brother was alsokilled. Then, three days before trial was to begin in the correctional officer murder case, Jackson was gunned down in the upper yard at San Quentin Prison in another foiled escape attempt on a day of unparalleled violence in the prison that left three officers and three inmates dead in an earlier riot that reports indicate also involved Jackson.

-- Arnie

ehhh...loose shit on the daughter. I had it in my head that she was 13.

Still, I see almost no difference between harming children and harming the elderly.

Kind of like the Indian Whoop Holler scene in
O' Brother...

The man deserves to die. We can be happy that justice, long denied, is finally being served. I will celebrate justice served, but I can't celebrate the fact that the State had to kill a man.

Again, I didn't say he doesn't have it coming. My point is that the posters here are acting like this is something to celebrate, and it's clearly not. The man is about to die. Fine. But we're killing someone, not throwing a fuckin party. I'm for the death penalty, but I'm sure as hell not for the idea of people being so pumped up about it that they're writing jaunty little tunes. Being cavalier about taking life is exactly the reason Tookie's crimes are so heinous in the first place.

And lauraw, I have some doubt that any of these posters have been thirsting for retribution these last 25 years, so they havent in fact been denied anything.

As far as the good he's done being bullshit: maybe, I don't know. I know that being an OG he's got to have alot of weight with young gangmembers, so anything he does to discourage gang violence has to be a net positive. If he's had any impact at all there it's a worthwhile thing.

being an OG he's got to have alot of weight with young gangmembers, so anything he does to discourage gang violence has to be a net positive.

Dude! He founded the Crips.

Any pro/con tally is so far in the negative range, its ridunculous.

As far as our bloodthirstiness goes, lets say its on a scale.
Do we hate Michael Moore? Yes.
Do we advise for his assassination? NO.

Being a politically disagreeable character is not a hanging offense.

But if there's to be any schadenfreude in the world, why not let it be this? The righteous carrying out of a sentence, for ONCE, for crying out loud.

I mean, its not like the lefties who had saved bottles of champagne for Reagan's death.

Would you cheer if you found out Osama had been killed by Marines?
Perhaps you'd solemnly note the occasion, and shutter yourself against the general outcry of happiness at a bad man's demise?

Henry, you feel discomfort, and it sounds like you're trying to find a reason for it.
Fine.
But the 'old guy' thing?
Still doesn't work.
The young gang-bangers consider him a hero, period.
In some twisted way, a martyr, just like the lefty hollywood freaks.
For me, it's not so much glee that he's dying.
I think of the victims.
But I celebrate that the hollywood phonies and the aclu, naacp, amnesty intl, etc, are losing here.
Fuck all of them, and with gleeful gusto.
They are the reason justice often is delayed and denied.

so anything he does to discourage gang violence has to be a net positive.

Except that he has refused to give up any information that might help police investigate and/or prosecute gang members.

Despite his admirable work educating children about the dangers of gangs, Williams has not been especially helpful to law enforcement. Williams did not denounce gang membership until 1997, 16 years after entering prison, and has refused to participate in debriefing sessions with law enforcement. During debriefings, Williams was to discuss current gang members, but objected because he felt it would make him a snitch.

In addition, right before his sentencing, he had tried to arrange a violent escape, which would've involved more murder.
Plot foiled.
Arnold cited that as part of his reasoning today.

Yes, he founded the Crips. He did not, however, invent gangs or gang violence. People are acting like there was peace and harmony and all was well in the ghetto and then the Crips came and fucked it all up. I guarantee you that Tookie was in a gang already, all the other founding members were in gangs, and all the subsequent members would have been in whatever other gang was there before the Crips forced them out. So founding the Crips doesn't make him any more guilty than any other gangmember who kills somebody. His set just ended up being one of the more powerful.

As for the Osama analogy, I think it's a little silly. Osama comitted an act of war against my country, Tookie is a criminal whose acts were commited a quarter century ago and whose victims I did not know. So will I be glad that justice is served? Sure. That doesn't mean I'm all excited about his death.

If Osama gets killed by Marines, yes I'd cheer. First off, I'm a Marine, so I'm happy because it's a significant accomplishment towards winning the war. Second, Osama is actively working towards killing more of us. Not only has he not repented, he's still trying to commit crimes. I will tell you this though: when I'm in Iraq, if God forbid I have to kill somebody, I'll do it, and do it willingly, but I won't be celebrating. I'll leave that to people who dont have to worry about actually doing any killing themselves.

Has Tookie got the will, in this heat?

Oh, let him go to seed

And sleep with me under the snow

Chancing some Spring awakening!

Henry, I didn't personally know any of the folks that 'Tookie' killed.
I didn't personally know any of the folks who died on Sept. 11th either.
I consider the carrying out of justice towards terrorists and murderers as deterrents.
Unfortunately, again, because of the left, in both cases, justice is delayed and denied.
If you are a Marine and are going in harms' way to defend America and her allies against those who would harm us, thank you.
You also are defending the rights of the lefty protesters whose actions end up putting the lives of our Troops in even more danger.
You also are defending our right to 'celebrate', then, even though you don't like it.
Again, I celebrate a loss for the left.
I could give a rat's ass for 'Tookie'.
He should've been dead a long time ago, if justice was swiftly served.

As for a loss for the left, yeah I can see that. Because you can definitely consider me fully aboard the "Fuck Mike Farrell" bandwagon.

And hey, I can understand some of this. I'm at Pendleton now, so I've heard folks from L.A. talk about this guy. I'm from Philly, and I can't wait for them to finally kill Abu Jamal. Of course, I know cops there and believe me, theres nothing that pisses off blue-collar Philly guys more than the fact that that fucker is still breathing. Except maybe how the fuckin Birds are doin this year. God Damn.

Hah.
There's the humor we need at this site.
Best wishes to you, Henry.
A couple of Marine buddies of mine got back from Iraq earlier this year, and a Green Beret buddy just got back from Afghanistan.
Word is he'll be heading somewhere soon...the 'land of two rivers.'
Keep the faith.
The majority believe in you guys and what you're doing for us.
Thanks again.
PS- fuck the left.

Know why I celebrate, Henry? Because truth finally beats out the non-stop lying by the anti-dp people, who never met a sadistic murder they didn't love. I got sick of it years ago. And when Kevin Cooper gets it, I plan on breaking out the Champaigne.

HENRY:You gotta ask yourself whether its seemly for civilized people to be so callous about the state executing someone. I'm not saying he doesn't have it coming, but bottom line is that California is about to kill an old man for something he did 25 years ago The reason for the reaction you see here is because of the blanket pardons of Governor Ryan in Illionois and Governor Atoya's blanket pardons in New Mexico. Protection of law abiding people is an anomaly and punishment of murderers is rare. There are 38,000 Murders a year in the U.S. Only 50% are "solved" and only 10% of all murders lead to criminal convictions of any kind. (solving a murder does not often lead to enough evidence to convict). Think O.J. Simpson. The execution of this one murderer represents one of the rare instances where the system worked as it is supposed to. If a family member of mine had been killed, I doubt that I would be willing to leave it to the court system. As you point out it, has been 25 years since the murders took place. That is 24 years 8 months too long, but better than the O.J. Simpson case where no one is ever going to be punished.

That is 24 years 8 months too long, but better than the O.J. Simpson case where no one is ever going to be punished.

Yeah, tell me about it. I'm from the state that fought a serial killers appointed round with the devil even though he himself said it was time. That's crime enough in itself. I am happy justice is (finally) getting served. I also condemn no one for their attitude, nor their level of giddiness. Especially the funnier ones.

When a governing body has to go as far as it did this time, to me. it is a solemn act on several levels. To me, anyway.

yo man this goes out to all yall bitch ass niggas that didnt like tookie yall are some hatin ass niggas even though this man was the founder of a deadly gang he should of deserved to live all the crips will remember him r.i.p. tookie blue rags up

Sho nuff, fat pat. Tookie be putting the blue rag on muthafuckin Jesus's head right about now.

ah yeah, word to Allah fo' shizzle. (wait a minute, I'm a midwest cracker, what the hell am I doing?)

Tookie putting a do rag on Jesus' head? Yeah, that's likely. More like Tookie taking a double anal from Hitler and Torquemunda while blowing Jeff Dahmer.

fat pat: does that comment make me a "hatin ass nigga"?