yeah, whatever. Keep posting what Karl Rove and the CIA-Pajamas tell you to post (such as this neocon propagnda post). Bush lied! Free Mumia, Tookie and Saddam!!!!

Liberal bloggers tend to be obsessed with . . . criminal investigations unlikely to result in convictions (and unrelated to actual political policies, in any event)

Couldn't have said it better myself! Bravo.

Here's a competing theory: Unlike the liberal bloggers and readers, conservative bloggers and blog-readers are not, as a rule, diagnosable paranoid schizophrenics and general lunatics.

I was gonna say conservatives tend to use the words "fuckity fucking pigfucking fucker fuckers" to flesh out points less, and this makes arguments more amenable to cross-pollination with the MSM. But yeah, that too.

Ah. They engage in thoughtful, open debate and criticize their leaders, whereas we all just push the party line.... It's the all-purpose generic universal explanation for liberal failure.

Precisely. It's the same shit they trot out to explain why they lose elections. "It's not that conservative ideas are more persuasive than ours; conservatives are simply better organized."

That's also why they have such a hard-on for Rove. The more diabolically ingenious they can make him out to be, the less they have to question the appeal of their policies to the general population.

Looking forward to reading the piece, though. Sounds like Mary Mapes lite.

"I was gonna say conservatives tend to use the words "fuckity fucking pigfucking fucker fuckers" to flesh out points less, and this makes arguments more amenable to cross-pollination with the MSM. "

Well, I guess that proves Bill doesn't read *my* blog. . .

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Baby, the article kinda said it, but I just think that conservatives generally have a cohesive message while democrats don't really stand FOR anything, just AGAINST what the conservatives stand for.

When there's disagreement amongst conservatives, there is, as you said, more ordered debate, but by and large, most conservatives agree with each other on the big things.

When your group has nothing that it really steadfastly stands for as a group, it's hard to convince other people to stand with you in that group; therefore, you really have a hard time influencing.

PS: Every vote Ace of Spades recieves makes Bill cry one delicious tear.

My mouse now sounds like a Geiger counter.

DIGITAL BROWN SHIRTISM!!!!

OK, I'll bite. Is thatt KOSKIDZ comment above for real? Free Saddam?

Ken Starr, don't be too hard on the Left for their obsession with "criminal investigations unlikely to result in convictions."

After all, the convictions of 15 people on 45 felony counts that you obtained sets a very high standard. It's hard for them to keep up, except in their fevered imaginations.

"The basic dynamic of the sinestrosphere is everyone attempting to out-crazy each other, and, last time I checked, it's a million-way tie for first place."

That's just good writing. High quality, Ace.

Sue's comment above: classic.

The reason why conservative bloggers are more effective is that we don't have the MSM to count on to toe the party line. Having the MSM as a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party allows the left-wing bloggers more freedom to play to the bleacher seats. Meanwhile, we conservatives (and libertarians) are forced to hone our message in order to cut through the crap of MSM bias.

The Mary Mapes situation is a perfect example.

SWLiP,

Exactly. The more right-leaning blogs essentially make up for the vacuum in the MSM of their ideas. The lefty ones have to become more extreme to differentiate themselves from the stuff you can get on MSNBC every day.

Logic > Emotion.

Pretty much how I see it.

I was gonna say conservatives tend to use the words "fuckity fucking pigfucking fucker fuckers" to flesh out points less, and this makes arguments more amenable to cross-pollination with the MSM

I JUST got into a "debate" about this. The "other" said that he didn't need facts/figures/supporting evidence because what he was doing was venting. Ah - see, there is no point in debating with 'em.

Conservative bloggers tend to discuss live, real issues. They take reasonable positions, certainly mainstream among conservatives, and reasonable even to moderates. (Even if moderates don't agree with this or that, it's not as if the position is simply absurd.)

THAT HITS THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD.

There are two kinds of Republicans: greedy, selfish, obscenely wealthy fatcat warmongers who rule the world, and toothless beer-swilling NASCAR fans. The latter vote Republican only because the former have convinced them that's what Jesus wants them to do.

And if you don't think lefties really and truly believe the above, you don't hang out much on lefty blogs. I don't just mean DU; the academic blogs are the worst. For people who are supposed to be so smart (I know, I know), they have an amazingly simplistic view of just about everything. It doesn't hold up to any kind of examination, but they aren't big on introspection. This is why they're stunned and amazed every time they lose an election. They think, "but we told those stupid hillbillies that Democrats would give them free stuff! Do they really hate gays enough to turn down free stuff? It's not natural!"

So lefties spend a lot of time talking about "voting against self-interest" and "getting the message out" -- i.e. getting it across to those stupid rednecks (into which they somehow manage to lump a great deal of the American middle class) that IF YOU VOTE FOR US WE WILL GIVE YOU FREE STUFF! (You moron!). If only they can pound that through enough thick skulls, it'll be the Age of Aquarius again.

I am now incapable of seeing the words "Age of Aquarius" without reliving the closing credits of "The 40-Year-Old Virgin."

Topless Paul Rudd... spicy.

I should just cut and paste Weasel's comment into a file on my desktop for later rebuttals to lefties. :)

"...air ideas and vent differences."? What kind of crap is that? The last real idea a lefty had was back in the stone ages when one said to another, "We're bigger and smarter than Grog over there, so we're gonna tell him what he can and can't do with his property, and he has to pay us a gazillion cat teeth in taxes, and then he's gonna be so poor he'll have to come to us for anything he needs!

And they haven't changed a bit since then, except to become towering wimps and sorry peace-at-any-price no-brain chumps. So add "cowards" to the already ingrained "liars" and "thieves" monikers.

S. Weasel: That is the result of spending to much time with Marx and friends - everything, and I mean everything, is reduced down to money, economics. If you were to tell them that "Man does not live by bread alone," they would make it a point to add some cheese. They just don't get that some people may value something higher than money.

And then to top it off they claim that they are truly spiritual and the right is just interested in crass materialism.

It's like leftism is a mental disorder, or something.

Good words, S. Weasel.

The bit about voting against self-interest is the choicest bit of tripe in the Democrat Clusterfuck of Logic.
Voting is all about self-interest. I vote the way I want things to go. I vote for the guy who represents my views the most accurately.

If you vote against self-interest, why fucking bother?

You know who's been voting against their own self-interest for decades? Urban minorities.

And look where its gotten them.