UPDATE II:French secret police have rounded up two of the top members of the notorious Algerian street gang 'Petits Fours' in connection with this crime.
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Ya but he names his songs FranSSe, implying the French are like the S S.
But who isn't like the SS these days? Or fascists?
Monsieur R is speaking truth to power.

It seems to me - please correct me if I'm wrong -- that France's conservative party has all the bad traits of our Republican party and all the bad traits of the our Democratic party. That means Jacque Chirac is a mixture of Ted Kennedy and Arlen Specter. No?

David Brooks tried to be hip on this topic, and wound up citing lyrics that were 15-20 years old...

It inspired a great takedown column by someone who actually knew a hell of a lot about French rap -- I think it was in The Nation.

Anyway, the idea that all French are wusses accustomed to over-rarified luxury... it's just dumb.

Plenty of rude boys living rough on the streets of Paris.

anybody got a light?

The mainstream French, yeah, they're generally a bunch of wusses. If it were otherwise, the young punks torching cars would have been taken down a long time ago. Remember, these are the descendants of the generations which surrendered to the Germans, and lost to the Algerians and Vietnamese. They have no justified pride in themselves, and deep down, they may even know it.

As for anyone bothering to know "a hell of a lot about French rap," how sad of a life do you have to lead in order to achieve that?

Monsieur R is speaking truth to power.

In France?

The mainstream French, yeah, they're generally a bunch of wusses.

Know anything about the French in Algeria?

and lost to the Algerians and Vietnamese.

Anyone catch the irony about losing to the Vietnamese?

I couldn't make this stuff up. Keep it up, Eric!

A mixture of Ted Kennedy and Arlen Specter would get you Joe Biden. A mixture of Nancy Pelosi and a Pepé Le Pew gets you Jaques Chirac.

The mainstream French, yeah, they're generally a bunch of wusses

Who thinks that French rap is the product of mainstream French, anyway? Is that what you think about rap in the US?

Isn't the idea of the joke that the French don't know anything about the kind of conditions that created rap in the US, because they are all pampered wusses?

As if there is no social stratification in France.

Um, not for anything, but don't you see how my asshole brother just sucked you dummies into an argument?

Oh, and the poster with no name is also Tubino.

Um, not for anything, but don't you see how my asshole brother just sucked you dummies into an argument?

Yup. I see. Well done, in my opinion.

While we are on the subject of French pussies, notice how the Canadian government shake-up is getting almost zero media coverage?

The news about Jessica Simpson and that guy she married is getting more press. The Macy's parade floats are getting more air time.

Why?

Because nobody cares what happens in Canada.
Canada is inconsequential country with inconsequential people living in it.

Yet, in Canada the media is dominated with news of America. The same goes for those little Europeon countries like Finland, Norway, and Sweden. Nothing happens there; life is boring; they're all jealous of America. To make themselves feel better for being losers they spend most of their time convincing each other they are socially and morally superior to Americans. And Americans are fat, too. Stupid and fat.

Fucking ninnies.

Tubino you dickhead, we didn't lose in Vietnam. The Democrats made us quit.

The French were actually defeated on the battlefield.

Lloyd, I assume you have been reading a while so let me offer a few questions about feeding our troll:

Do you really think he's worked through his position with intellectual honesty?

Do you really think his position will change if you lay the relevant facts and logic out for him?

Do you think his position has anything to do with facts and logic?

In light of the foregoing, why do you think he is posting?

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Oh, you just reminded me....I need to take my stool softner. Thanks, Laura

Tubino you dickhead, we didn't lose in Vietnam. The Democrats made us quit.

I laugh at your ignorance.
Who was elected President in 1968?

How tied were Nixon's hands, considering he was able to secretly bomb Cambodia, with no Congressional oversight?

Who ran on a platform of getting the US out of Vietnam? TIP: be sure to include Milhous in your answer.

Note for contemporary relevance: What percentage of the US turned against the war in Vietnam? What percentage now believes the Cheney administration MISLED the US into the war, and now believes iit was mistake?

tub-jizz-on-face-ino:

Nixon tried to win it (and could have) with tactics like bombing Hanoi and attacking NVA sanctuaries in Cambodia. But the American left ("Democrats") squealed like you on a Saturday night (obviously with a dick up your ass). In Democratic ("make the US military fight with one hand tied behind its back") logic, the NVA could attack us from Cambodia, but we couldn't attack them back there.

We signed a peace treaty in 1973, for which Kissinger and Le Duc Tho won Noble prizes, that maintained the status quo of two Vietnams (our original objective in entering Vietnam in the first place).

Then we withdrew, undefeated on the battlefield, with a 20 to 1 kill ratio.

When North Vietnam promptly and predictably pissed on the treaty and invaded South Vietnam, the Democratic controlled Congress made us sit on our hands and watch our former allies get overrun.

We did not lose in Vietnam. But France did.

Now go ahead and laugh at my ignorance.

"It seems to me - please correct me if I'm wrong -- that France's conservative party has all the bad traits of our Republican party and all the bad traits of the our Democratic party."

Over-simplified, Bart. The equivalent of the Republican right wing is in the Front National.

alistair, I call Bullshit - the FN is David Duke land. Chirac's "conservative" party is at its most conservative, like Jim Jeffords. France has no truly "conservative" party.

Now my asshole brother is posting as "alistair."
Poor kid, he knows not of what he does.

Um. French rap does make you torch cars. I thought this was common knowledge.

Uh oh, rd. I may have to issue a correction?
Wouldn't be the first time.

Do you have a cite?

(If they've proved this through controlled experiments on rhesus monkeys, I may have to rethink my approval of animal testing.)

I thought French rap made you burn out your own eardrums with red-hot brands* to end the pain.

Oh, wait. American rap does that, too.

(*why the heck is the word "p-o-k-e-r-s" blocked by the filter?!?)

I know I shouldn't feed the troll...

Tubino,

Of course the French are wusses. Please explain how hundreds of them ended up being handcuffed by Bosnian Serb forces and used as human shields when they were part of UNPROFOR without a shot being fired. I remember an interview of a French colonel scoffing at the idea of fighting back, something about not wanting to die for peace...

Apparently, they had orders not to fire unless fired upon, so the Serbs walked up to them with handcuffs and the French, natural bureaucrats to the end, took their orders a little too literally.

This was the French Army, not the regular citizenry. Does anyone seriously believe that the mainstream French public has a stronger backbone than its army?

Eric, its such a silly post for him to have responded to, anyway.
I don't actually believe that 'french' gangsters are less murderous than any other brand.

But it had to show up and disturb some shit because that is its nature.

Are these "rappeurs" taking back the word "grenouille" for their people?