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November 24, 2005

Interesting Plame/Wilson Nugget At Generation Why?

Replaces RETRACTED item.

Breakfast with Joe and Valerie?

Although I just published this bit as a screamer of a story, I now have to retract it. Upon further review, Generation Why?'s ducks aren't really in order, and my initial assertions were overstated and cannot be supported.

Stll, an interesting avenue to stroll down.

Could be nothing. Could be something.


posted by Ace at 10:51 AM
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Your sense of personal responsibility makes my nipples ache.

Posted by: Bill from INDC on November 24, 2005 11:07 AM

White House 'doublecrossed' Blair says Plame husband

More Iraq war excuses for the WMD policy leak at CIA.

Everybody hates going to school and Rice's degree

Posted by: on November 24, 2005 12:10 PM

Don't be so exacting, Kristoff's reference to "his wife" is probably clear enough for a grand jury indictment and yet ambiguous enough for an acquital. (I'll bet Scooter would agree, don't you?)

Posted by: c on November 24, 2005 05:33 PM

Uh, no one said that being a CIA NOC meant not having a life.

In fact, that's what being a NOC would mean: you would appear to have a normal life. If your husband is a diplomat, you might have breakfasts with him, and others.

The bit about Plame having authority to send Wilson is too stupid to argue again.

But on the Plame case, Scooter has been continuing to lawyer up, now specifically with an expert on classified info.

This case is a LONG WAY from being over. I think Fitz is after the Big Dick himself.

Posted by: tubino on November 24, 2005 11:40 PM

I think Fitz is after the Big Dick himself.

Yeah, but he won't get me.

More seriously, Tubino, I have no trouble whatsoever believing that Wilson would have outed his wife to a newspaper reporter. That one photo from the Vanity Fair article tells me more about him than anything I've read. He's a small man who fate happened to place in a momentarily important position, and I'd willingly bet that going back to a small life would kill him. If celebrity status were an easy thing to shrug off, pop culture wouldn't be the ridiculously self-referential thing that it is.

Posted by: Andrew on November 25, 2005 12:14 AM

I can only assume at this point that you folks aren't not getting it, you're willfully overlooking the truth because it doesn't fit your agenda.

But let's try one more time. If Wilson met with Kristof accompanied by his wife (which isn't clear) it would have revealed to Kristof the shocking news that Wilson had a wife. He may have even introduced her as an energy specialist. Do you really think every time Wilson introduced his wife to someone, he was "outing" her? The fact that she existed was never a secret.

It's the same with the Who's Who entry. All it did was confirm that Wilson was married. This was already known most likely by both of their co-workers, everyone who attended their wedding, all of their neighbors, former college classmates, etc. It does not loguically follow that anyone who knew Plame existed automatically knew she was CIA. Perhaps that's why no one took notice of that tidbit in Vanity Fair. Because it didn't mean anything.

Posted by: Chris on November 25, 2005 11:05 AM

Chris doesn't it depend on the name she used while undercover? If used the name Valerie Plame while undercover then having her name in Who's Who and being connected to someone who does work for the CIA blows her cover.

The next question is how was she introduced to Kristof? We don't know that. Maybe she was introduced as an "energy specialist" or maybe she was introduced as a CIA agent. What was he role during the breakfast meeting? Did she stay quiet or did she participate in the conversation?

These are questions that Fitz should be asking. You cannot simply assume the former when the latter is just as possible.

Posted by: Eric on November 25, 2005 05:38 PM

It wouldn't be good form for Fitzgerald to make an assumption about the discussion at that meeting, when he can get those in attendance to testify on the record instead.

After all, as the great legal scholar Samuel L. Jackson once said: "You know what happens when you make an assumption? You make an ass out of u.....and mption."

Posted by: Russ from Winterset on November 25, 2005 09:07 PM
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