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November 11, 2005

If You Outlaw Questioning Patriotism, Only The Unpatriotic Will Question Patriotism

Regarding the antipatriotic left's incessant whine that being unpatriotic is the truest form of patriotism....

...I have to observe that it's odd -- people who have spent the past year saying that Bush took us to war to enrich Halliburton somehow now think it's beyond the bounds of civilized discussion to question people's motives on the war.

-- Traffic Non-Santa

And yes, the left has expressly questioned the patriotism of its opponents on numerous occasions.

But let's say they didn't. (Although, you know, they did.) You're going to accuse people of murdering 2000 American soldiers to stuff money in the pockets of your "Republican friends" and win elections so that you turn the country into a fascist banna-republic junta-led despotism, and then you piously whine that it's off-limits to question your patriotism?

There's an expression first used by Voltaire as a rejoinder to such a claim. Although my French translation is sketchy, I think it goes something like, "Fuck you and the whores you rode in on."

If I've got this right, it's perfectly acceptable to say that Bush began a war he knew was unnecessary to help his Repubican "buddies," but it's outlandishly out-of-bounds to suggest that people who do nothing but slander America may be something less than fully on board with this whole "love of country" thing.

For God's sake-- the same people who claim to be such patriots spend half their time ridiculing patriotism as the precursor to Naziism. So, what, they're saying they fully endorse the initial stages of fascist militarism?

And on "helping Republican friends," once again, this time with feeling:

A friend is someone who'll help you move.

A best friend is someone who'll help you move... a dead body.

But a Republican friend is someone who'll start a "phony war of choice" based on "twisted intelligence" in order to build a Trans-Caspian Pipeline and/or give big contracts to Halliburton and then "smear" anyone with the "courage" to "speak Truth to Power."

Uhhhhh... no. On the few occasions I ask my "Republican friends" for favors, they say stuff like "Get a haircut, hippy" or "It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve," which is actually sort of hurtful, because whose business is it if me and my friend Steve choose to always wear coordinated or "matched theme" outfits when we go out together?


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Posted by: vladimir on November 11, 2005 06:22 PM
If I've got this right, it's perfectly acceptable to say that Bush began a war he knew was unnecessary to help his Repubican "buddies," but it's outlandishly out-of-bounds to suggest that people who do nothing but slander America may be something less than fully on board with this whole "love of country" thing.
Yep. That's it. Perhaps they can create some sort of new name for their particular "love" for their "country," like "metropatriotism." And the media will love it too, not only because they're really "metropatriots" themselves, but because they love phony phenomena that they can do long but fluffy pieces on.
Posted by: Sean M. on November 11, 2005 06:23 PM

The Left seems to have brought Orwellian Doublespeak to its true fruition. Only lantern-jawed cavemen practice the bad kind of patriotism (i.e., love of country and culture). They tend to label this kind of simple-minded smarm as "jingoism". Good patriotism, on the other hand, is...well, questioning and making fun of the bad kind of patriotism. All of which is good for the polis in some vague and undefinable way, or so the Leftists would have you think.

Just look at the kinds of thing the Left disdains: showing the flag (although they tend to say "flag-waving" and use it as an epithet), supporting the military (which the Left claims to do, but no one is fooled), being a reasonably devout Christian, and believing in the electorate (rather than considering them to be simple children who need only money, government services, and the occasional indulgent pat on the head).

In the Leftist Bizarro universe, patriotism is the opposite of patriotism. But then, to the Left, words don't really mean anything anyway, so they don't really see the dissonance.

Posted by: Monty on November 11, 2005 06:28 PM

They definitely display a deficit of thought. None of these people actually look at how this is working out for companies like Halliburton after all the costs are tallied. If this was just about the oil and work for Repuplican owned companies it would have made far more financial sense to keep Saddam in power and do business with him. He repeatedly tried to get the sanctions removed with offers of cheap oil and Halliburton types would have a far better situation repairing and upgrading infrastructure in Saddam's Iraq than what it is today.

If Bush and Company were the people the Left accuse them of being, why wouldn't they enthusiastically do business with a genocidal dictator? You know, like the French and Russians.

Posted by: epobirs on November 11, 2005 08:18 PM

No, no, you just don't understand;

They love this country SO MUCH that they just can't let it live in its present form any longer.

They must reshape it into something new, something better, something that will give them more grant money without asking too many questions.

Posted by: lauraw on November 11, 2005 09:36 PM

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Whenever I hear lefties talk about how patriotic they are and how they want to see America be the best that it can be, it reminds me of a scene from Braveheart... the one where the English king, Longshanks, was talking about Scotland and he said "The problem with Scotland is... that it's full of Scots."

I think a fair number of lefties are the same way. The only problem with America--in their eyes--is the fact that its filled with Americans. They love America, except for the American people and the ideals for which they stand.

Posted by: Dave S on November 11, 2005 11:05 PM

I love the one I get in my new job, "You are just into that NEOCON groupthink."

Ahhh, can you say, "projection"?

Posted by: MCPO Airdale on November 12, 2005 01:02 AM

Actually, when lefties talk about loving America, they usually don't mention the American people or its institutions or ideals or history.

What do they ALL mention? The land itself. The physical, geographical landmass called America.

Posted by: ace on November 12, 2005 01:13 AM

I just hope all this attention paid to "neo-cons" serves to attract the youth who gravitate to the dark side. For deep inside neoconservatism, behind an obscuring Schwarzchild radius, lies a black hole, the immense pull of which has brought together and holds together the new, stronger, deeper, more evil, and more beautiful conservatism. The perimeter is the writings of Leo Strauss, which both reveal and conceal the Platonic, Xenophonic, Maimonidean, and Machiavellian writings that lie beneath, pulling minds off the straight paths of orthodoxies and causing them to turn, again and again, in orbit around the permanent problems.

Posted by: Leto II on November 12, 2005 01:25 AM

No, a best friend is one who will go into town, get two blowjobs, and then come back and give you one.

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