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November 09, 2005
It's Official: CIA Asks For Criminal Investigation Into LeakDemocrats, meanwhile, said that if Republicans wanted to pursue an inquiry, it should go beyond any leak related to secret detention facilities and cover a range of other issues that Democrats say are ripe for investigation. Oh, and remember that New York Times piece, which revealed the CIA's secret air fleet? Apparently that information might have been used in conjunction with the WaPo leak to ID the countries helping us imprison terrorists: The Post, citing a "request of senior U.S. officials," did not identify the Eastern European countries. But the mention of Eastern Europe stirred anxiety at the intelligence agency, particularly after Human Rights Watch, a group that has opposed American detention policies, issued a statement on Monday saying its research had tracked C.I.A. aircraft in 2003 and 2004 making flights from Afghanistan to remote airfields in Poland and Romania. The group said aircraft used in the flights had been previously flown by the C.I.A. for prisoner transport. Investigate that leak too. Put the journalists under oath and force them to reveal their criminal sources. posted by Ace at 12:33 PM
CommentsShhhh, guys, forget this whole leaked covert op thingy, CNN is gonna report - any minute now - that they learned of this on Ronald Reagan's deathbed. I think all us neo-cons can see that this is simply gonna be eggs on our face if we press this. Posted by: joeindc44 on November 9, 2005 12:52 PM
Joe, I don't know if you realize that Berry Princess has been operating under very deep cover, and you're outing of her is a very serious offense. Posted by: DB on November 9, 2005 01:08 PM
Gargamel told me this in the Green Room, I was shocked to learn it. Posted by: joeindc44 on November 9, 2005 01:11 PM
Oh, and remember that New York Times piece, which revealed the CIA's secret air fleet? Apparently that information might have been used in conjunction with the WaPo leak to ID the countries helping us imprison terrorists: No, I don't remember the NYT piece, but unless it's a few years old, how could it have anything to do with Human Rights Watch ID of planes in 2003 and 2004? Probably no connection. The carriers used by the CIA have been detected at least since the 80s, when you could read about the carriers used during Iran-contra even before the investigation. It's not easy to keep a secret about planes flying into airports... Posted by: tubino on November 9, 2005 03:13 PM
Yes, I do remember the NY Times piece. I also remember that the paper received clearance from the CIA before publishing the story. Somehow that part always gets left out. Posted by: Chris on November 9, 2005 03:25 PM
How are we doing on that investigation into the allegations that Chalabi leaked info about CODES being BROKEN to our Iranian enemies in the Axis of Evil? Oh, he's meeting with members of the Bush admin TODAY? Will he be interviewed by the FBI? Wearing handcuffs? No? Wake me up when you guys OR this administration gets serious about security risks, instead of hosting them for talks, or maintaining their security clearances. Posted by: tubino on November 9, 2005 03:31 PM
Just call me Johnny One-Note. This entire campaign of mine has been centered around one theme: Republicans are crooks and liars. I read the same 5 lefty blogs all day long and steal all their ideas, arguments, and quotes. Then, I regurgitate it back to the dunces at AoS. Watergate. Iran-Contra-gate. Plamegate. I'll keep weaving in all the loony conspiracies, rumors, and investigations against the Republicans into my many, many boring, repetitive, humourless, dry, insipid, baseless, and contrived posts. Soon, you'll realize what I already know. Republicans are bad. Very bad.
Posted by: Toobeano on November 9, 2005 03:39 PM
I also remember that the paper received clearance from the CIA before publishing the story. Not quite correct - the CIA had 'no comment' when the story was submitted, probably because the NYT compiled the story from non-classified sources. Posted by: geoff on November 9, 2005 03:52 PM
So was the NYT story so far back in time that it could have been a source for 2003 HRW reports, as Ace says? Posted by: sockpuppet on November 9, 2005 03:58 PM
Great read. How bush lets his administration get accused of manufacturing information is a mystery. Seems anyone with have a brain and an interest in the facts would draw a completely different conclusion. http://www.commentarymagazine.com/Production/files/podhoretz1205advance.html Sorry. I have no clue on the linking stuff. Oh and spinning gay hat tip to LGF. Posted by: JackStraw on November 9, 2005 05:00 PM
have = half which apparently I do not have. Posted by: JackStraw on November 9, 2005 05:08 PM
Tubino, Were you "serious" about security risks when Clinton was selling out national secrets to the chinese for campaign contributions? Somehow, I doubt it. Were you serious when Sandy Bergler was stealing and destroying classified materials to protect the previous admin? Somehow I doubt it. When did the left ever care about the military and intelligence operations in the last 30 years - aside from using them as the boogeyman and doing everything they could to dismantle same? Your (the left's) sudden embrace of american intelligence and the military fools no one. That is why, no matter what histrionics the left displays, no one takes the Dems seriously on national security. When the left establishes a true history of seriousness on national security issues (rather than partisan emphasis that changes daily for political purposes), American might take democrats seriously on issues involving national security. Until then, they shouldn't, they don't, and they won't. Posted by: on November 9, 2005 05:25 PM
Hey hey hey. That's right. Se Moi. I know nothing of all those alleged crimes by democrats. Probably all part of a smear campaign by the Right and have not a kernel of truth. Only MY charges of high crimes and misdemeanors are important and relevant. All that crap about Sandy Berger and the Chinese is ancient history. Let's stick with the here and now: Plamegate, Iran-Contra, and Watergate. The Democrats are as pure as the driven snow. Therefore I can, with good conscience, claim I'm only after truth, justice, and the American way. Even though I'm only interested in spinning for my liberal, socialist comrades in America. When George Soros is president of the United States, he will make Canadia the 51st state in the union. And my hometown of Toronto will be the new capital of the nation. Remember, my arrogance is only exceeded by my stupidity. So... Don't mess with Canadia! Posted by: Toobeano on November 9, 2005 07:49 PM
Hey Toobeano Every right wing blog has someone doing what you do, and it gets old really fast. The only people saying things like Bush lied and people died anymore are idiot right wingers who think they've stumbled onto comedy gold. Get a fresh act. Posted by: Chris on November 9, 2005 07:55 PM
Hey Chris, what's the deal-i-o? Posted by: Toobeano on November 9, 2005 08:10 PM
The only people saying things like Bush lied and people died anymore are idiot right wingers Not from where we're sitting. We just got a flood of Bush-Lied/People-Died types in the last couple of weeks. And they were nowhere near the right. Even Tubino flirts with it. I'm willing to concede that there are more reasonable attitudes among the left, but they're buried in the political jingoism of the Kos-Kids. Posted by: geoff on November 9, 2005 08:48 PM
Sh*t, go ahead and let the U.N. set up their own internet (in their accustomed Private Idaho). They are setting up their own radio broadcast division now. We'll just set up our own CIA. Shut the old one down. Fire every last gall dang one of those turds. We couldn't possibly do it any worse. Forty four billion per annum. Posted by: Elmo on November 9, 2005 09:44 PM
The only people saying things like Bush lied and people died anymore are idiot right wingers Then there's the old 'repeat a lie often enough' method, and just look at the results: New NBC poll just out says 57% think BUSH intentionally misled Americans in the run up to the Iraq war. [From a commenter at John Cole's site, H/T to Jeff Goldstein] Posted by: geoff on November 9, 2005 10:03 PM
Every news report for 3 years says the same thing, that, basically Bush lied, and then they sample a hefty extra 10% democrat to get that poll. Posted by: joeindc44 on November 10, 2005 01:19 AM
Why isnt there a investigation into clintons dirty dealing what about all of clintons dirty dealings? Posted by: spurwing plover on November 10, 2005 08:14 AM
There were Clinton investigations, and there were indictments and there were convictions. You may not have heard about them because they didn't hurt Bush. Posted by: joeindc44 on November 10, 2005 09:55 AM
I was referring specifically to the phrase "Bush lied, people died." I realize a lot of people are accusing Bush of lying, but I see that phrase used in a weak attempt at sarcasm way more than it's used by lefties, on a scale of about 20:1. Posted by: Chris on November 10, 2005 11:56 AM
Gee, Chris, apparently you don't get out much. Posted by: Uncle Jefe on November 10, 2005 12:33 PM
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MacDonald's old partner Adam Egot revealed that MacDonald repurposed a bit with one of his ventriloquist dolls -- that he was a "bad guy" who "didn't believe the Holocaust happened" -- for the Norm MacDonald show, in which he claimed Egot didn't believe in the Holocaust. Funniest thing I've read about the Virginia mess. Back when they were hustling the referendum through the assembly both Senators, Warner and Kaine, advised them to go slow and play by the rules. Louise Lucas said she respected them but didn't need advice from the "cuck chair" in the corner. The gerrymandering was overturned and Louise is heading for the big house. Edward G. Robinson voice "where's your cuck now?" I posted his post on twitter and it's gotten 25K views so far. Thanks, Smell the Glove Chris
Forgotten 80s Mystery Click That Sums Up the Democrat Communist Party Today
Something is wrong as I hold you near Somebody else holds your heart, yeah You turn to me with your icy tears And then it's raining, feels like it's raining
"It's f**king f**ked."
-- reportedly a genuine comment offered by a "senior Labour source" Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held. Basil the Great
"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)
No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.
Only a cult does this.
Now they've lost 84%.
Annunziata Rees-Mogg Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.
Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...
The British Patriot Wow, up to 1700-2100 seats. It's not incredible that this is happening. It's incredible that the Davos crowd is so absolutely determined to privilege Muslim "migrants" over the actual native population who elects them, no matter how loudly the natives scream that they want to be prioritized, that they will gladly self-extinguish as a party rather than simply representing the interests of their own voters. Astonishing. Remember, when they call other people "cultists" -- they are the ones so imprisoned in their social reinforcement and discipline bubbles that they will choose political death rather than dare upset the Karen Enforcement Officers of their cult. Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending. (((Dan Hodges))) Nick Lowles
STARMERGEDDON: In early returns, Reform gains 135 seats, Labour loses 90, the Fake Conservatives lose 36 (and I didn't even know they could fall any further), the Lib Dems lose 4, and the Greens gain 6. Note that the only other party gaining seats is the Greens and they're only gaining a handful of seats.
Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98. Labour projected to lose Wales -- where they've ruled for 27 years. Fulton County Georgia just discovered 400 boxes of ballots for Labour Update: REF +156, LAB -107, CON -45 Brutal: In four out of five council seats where Labour is defending, they've lost. 80%. I'm sure it's not this simple, but Reform is straight taking Labour's and the "Conservatives'" seats. They've lost almost exactly what Reform gained. If understand this right (and warning, I probably don't), all of London's council seats are up for election, and Labour might lose hugely there, as their old voters abandon them for Reform, Muslim Indenpendents, and the Greens. REF +190, LAB -134, CON -56.
Updates on the Labour collapse in council elections -- which wags are calling #Starmergeddon -- from Beege Welborne. There are about 5000 seats up for grabs, Labour is expected to lose 1,800, Reform will probably gain 1,580, up from... zero. So this would be more than that.
People claim that while Labour has adopted the Sharia Agenda to appeal to the million Muslims it allowed to migrate to the country, those voters are ditching Labour to vote for the Muslim Independent Party or the Greens. Delicious. This shadenfreude is going straight to my thighs. Oh, and if Starmer loses about as badly as expected, Labour will toss him out of a window Braveheart style and replace him. He will announce he is resigning to spend more time with his Gay Ukrainian Male Prostitutes.
Media bias and senationalism are as old as, well, the media:
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