And Ohio rammed all four of George Soros' outsider-influenced propositions back up his ass. And King Mike crushed Ferrer in the Big Apple.

Yehp. The Dems certainly have Joe-mentum now.

I would also point out, that in VA, the dem won by hiding his liveralism and trying to pretend he is a fairly conservative dem (like Bill Clinton did).

So, even though I would not paint this as everything is rosy for the GOP, I think it clearly was not a victory for the KOS, DU crowd. I don't believe that Corzine even ran as a liberal.

The only place that someone ran as a true liberal was NYC (Ferrer) where he was trounced. If a true blue liberal can't even win in a true blue liberal city like NYC, it sort of proves our point that America is much, much more conservative than the KOS, DUer's seem to think. And, that dems can only win when they lie and pretend NOT to be liberals.

So we're finally leaving Berkeley ... and moving to Virginia.

Dems from coast to coast!

VA residents, and others well-informed - was Kilgore's (huh-huh, Kill Gore, heh heh hack cough spit) campaign as incompetent as people say?

Whaaaaa?!?

We picked up a House Seat too?

Although, as Rush is pointing out, a GOP house seat win is really a loss because, well I don't know why, but apparently it has something to do with minority rights in the legislative bodies of our country. And that Ohio goofball who ran as a Bush loving vetran supported by Moveon.org.

Yeah but the Dems really won Ohio. It was Diebold again doncha know.

Let's be honest. Last night sucked for the GOP. The big winner, though, was corruption and sleaze. NJ replaced the sleazy Gov. McGreevey with Uber-Scumbag John Corzine. Detroit re-elected a mayor who flaunted his corruption. And in California, the sleazebag unions succeeded in keeping the budget fat, keeping the graft flowing, and keeping incompetent teachers drawing paychecks.

Gotta love that culture of corruption.

I tried to vote in Va's election last night, and I was totally, like, intimidated and kept from voting. It all happenend when I crossed the border, I was on 395 southbound and I saw a police car. I turned tail and ran back home in Md. I have never been so scared in my life.

So how does this work for the GOP anyway, does Bush get to resign with dignity, or will the secret service frog-march him and all his cronies out. I mean this means we lost right? And with one less seat in the House, how much more powerful will the Dems' minority rights be now? Does every DNC congressman get 2 votes plus a mulligan? Should Tom Delay even bother coming back once the "charges" are laughed out of court?

V the K-
None of this should surprise anyone.
All blue states mentioned above, no?
And non-national elections are historically low voter turnout.
Who always wins with low voter turnout??

The new talking point in Ohio is that issues 2-5 were difficult to understand, that's why they failed. Yet, issue 1 was far more difficult to understand and it passed (although I voted against it).

But here is a simple explanation of the Issues: 2 would make voting by absentee ballot easier, 3 would put caps on campaign contributions (with some exceptions including unions), 4 would change who is in charge of drawing legislative districts, and 5 would change who is in charge of overseeing elections.

Difficult to understand, huh?

From the Akron Beacon Journal:

Keary McCarthy, a spokesman for Reform Ohio Now, said the issues were difficult to explain. He said it was the supporters' job to inform voters.

``We just came up short tonight,'' he said.

No, you got spanked. Apparently there's a few things Keary doesn't understand.

Unfortunately, Uncle Jefe is right. The unions and other leftist groups succeeded with their FUD campaign in California.

We're kind of funny, really. We Californians complain constantly about our state government: too high taxes, too much bureaucracy, too much catering to special interests, etc. Problem is, we never seem to want to do anything about it. I was arguing with some guy online yesterday who basically agreed that the state government is corrupt and unaccountable, but then opposed the initatives because they were "circumventing the Legislature," which somehow proves all Republicans are hypocrites. Apparently, he can't see that the Legislature /is/ the problem.

Knemon

>>was Kilgore's campaign really as incompetent as people say?

Incompetent? Hmmm...Nuanced? Nope. Kilgore's 11th-hour "Kaine wouldn't execute Hitler" type ads probably cost him more votes than they earned him. Cognitive dissonance between genteel Kilgore's Gate City accent and his campaign's take-no-prisoners ads. Polls had Kilgore ahead by a couple points until his people tried to lock it up with the ads (my read on it, anyway); Kaine, boosted by the easily-offended sentiments of Northern Virginia moderates (read: feddle gummint employees, infrastructure-heavy businesses and gummint contractor types), their rice-bowl instincts intact, put Kaine over the top. The math is, and has always been: Dems take Richmond, NoVa, and Tidewater, and GOP candidates poach voters from the latter two and take the west and south of the state. Worked for "centrist" Kaine this time.

Additionally, Mark Warner is incredibly popular in the state, and Kaine rode his coattails in. Kilgore seemed like a decent guy, but I'm not sure he was the right horse for the race.

You'll notice, btw, that governor-elect Kaine bears a disturbing resemblance to Battlestar Galactica's Baltar.

blah.

The dems own MA, NY and CA yet they all have nominally republican governors.

I'm not sure the VA thing demonstrates anything at all.

The big winner, though, was corruption and sleaze.

The culture of corruption in Ohio remains alive and well.

But here is a simple explanation of the Issues: 2 would make voting by absentee ballot easier, 3 would put caps on campaign contributions (with some exceptions including unions), 4 would change who is in charge of drawing legislative districts, and 5 would change who is in charge of overseeing elections.

Close enough. The Taft-Noe story *should* have made those issues winners, and all lost.

I don't know why Jason seems to feel this is a win? Objectively pro-corruption?
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Hey, I just thought of something! If McCain was the leaker, you all can subject him to torture -- his second time!

Notice how much of a lying hypocrite I am?
I have the nerve to claim that Ohio's election process is corrupt, but I never acknowledge all the REAL and documented corruption and illegality by Democratic election officials.

You dummies.

" "Kaine wouldn't execute Hitler" type ads "

Yeah, what was up with that?

Just how centrist/liberal is Kaine? Liberal for southern VA, liberal for all of VA, liberal by national Democratic standards ... help me out here.

And Ohio rammed all four of George Soros' outsider-influenced propositions back up his ass. And King Mike crushed Ferrer in the Big Apple.

I'm proud to say that my wife and I played a role in this ass ramming. I see from the comments above that it has upset Tubino, which makes the 2-1 crushing of this leftist attempt to legislate election fraud all the more sweet.

My five minutes in a voting booth has more impact on politics in this country than a thousand of Tubino's boring, dishonest lectures. I can only imagine the time he must put into the lengthy dissertations that I merely scroll past.

Oh, well, Tubino. Keep at it. We Americans will come around someday, if only you just work harder.

>>just how liberal is Kaine

On the Virginia political spectrum, pretty liberal. By national standards, right of center. Virginia Democrats are to the right of the national party as a (general) rule. That said, his bread-and-circuses pitch, portrayed as being "more practical" in the 'burbs, played better this time out than Kilgore's "socially conservative" line. Not terribly surprising, really.