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November 07, 2005
Ninth Circuit Tosses Out Convictions For Making False Charges Against The PoliceSo it, giggle, discriminates on the basis of, chuckle, viewpoint. Errrm... as far as I know there is no civil action for making positive but false statements about someone.* * Okay, well, there's something called "false light" which is either a sort of libel or invasion of privacy, forget which, which can get ya for making false-but-not-defamatory statements about someone. But there still has to be some damage to someone's reputation or privacy. You can't just sue someone for saying you saved eight men during a stormy climb up Mount Everest. A jackass rationale from a jackass cicruit. posted by Ace at 04:25 PM
CommentsSince when is "viewpoint" a suspect classification? (Disclaimer: I ain't no law student, far less an actual lawyer) Posted by: Knemon on November 7, 2005 04:36 PM
Eh. He's already been declared a vexatious litigant so maybe they thought they would toss him a freebee. Posted by: on November 7, 2005 04:44 PM
As soon as "Ninth Circuit" appeared, I knew it was an asshat decision. Posted by: Steve L. on November 7, 2005 04:54 PM
I'm not sure about that last part, Ace. I seem to recall an early-1900's case discussed in the first week or so of Torts I in which a young lady's image was placed on a flour package in a flattering manner, together with the legend "flower of the family." She sued, claiming that the unauthorized reproduction of her image on their packaging placed her in the "false light" of promoting the flour company (a species of invasion of privacy), which she wasn't really adverse to but for which she thought she should have been paid and her permission sought. My (admittedly strained) recollection is that she prevailed, and that this is still more or less the law on that point, viz., that placing someone in a false light is placing them in a false light, even if it's in a positive light, so long as the complaining party was damaged in some way. Here, the young lady's privacy was unquestionably invaded (but again, in a good way, as the packaging was quite flattering and the flour company was otherwise upstanding and reputable), though she was harmed economically due to the lost licensing fee. Where am I wrong here? /O'Reilly voice Posted by: 12" Saturday Night on November 7, 2005 05:21 PM
Ace, you're hurting my head. Or, perhaps it's just the Valu-Rite. I don't even know anymore. Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 7, 2005 05:21 PM
If you actually read the decision - it's clear that the 9th Circuit leaps past every rationale to uphold the law (which I forgot to mention in my post - statutes are presumed constitutional and should be construed as such if possible) - in any event, the 9th Circuit leaps past every plausible defense of the law to see it as a sinister effort to criminalize dissent. Amazingly - the entire California Supreme Court appeared to have missed that. Posted by: Gib on November 7, 2005 05:45 PM
I believe false light is a misappropriation of your image, ID, etc. The soldier who was half-faded out of the magazine pic that went with a story on desertion would also be an example. There is also public disclosure of private facts and invasion of privacy which are truthful by their natures, tortious interference with business relations (truth is not a defense), and a few others. None of which makes the 9th Circus seem more reasonable on the face of things. Posted by: VRWC Agent on November 7, 2005 07:08 PM
"False light privacy": Ace regurgitating some of his old bar exam material. Posted by: Lloyd on November 7, 2005 07:14 PM
I found the right to privacy case mentioned above on LEXIS: it's Roberson v. Rochester Folding Box Co., 171 N.Y. 538 (Ct. App. N.Y. 1902) (now superceded by state statute). Looks like it's better characterized as a right of publicity rather than false light type case, but they are both species of invasion of privacy: From the opinion at p. 543: "It will be observed that there is no complaint made that plaintiff was libeled by this publication of her portrait. The likeness is said to be a very good one, and one that her friends and acquaintances were able to recognize; indeed, her grievance is that a good portrait of her, and, therefore, one easily recognized, has been used to attract attention toward the paper upon which defendant [flour] mill company's advertisements appear. Such publicity, which some find agreeable, is to plaintiff very distasteful, and thus, because of defendants' impertinence in using her picture without her consent for their own business purposes, she has been caused to suffer mental distress where others would have appreciated the compliment to their beauty implied in the selection of the picture for such purposes; but as it is distasteful to her [she was made sick and suffered a severe nervous shock, was confined to her bed and compelled to employ a physician and now] seeks the aid of the courts to enjoin a further circulation of the lithographic prints containing her portrait made as alleged in the complaint, and as an incident thereto, to reimburse her for the damages to her feelings, which the complaint fixes at the sum of $15,000." Goodness, her feelings certainly were easily (and expensively) brusied. I hope they kept a fainting couch nearby. Sorry so OT, but sometimes the minutia is as interesting as the main point. Posted by: 12" Saturday Night on November 7, 2005 07:16 PM
No this makes perfect sense. In the same light, the laws on shoplifting need to be tossed out since there is no law against bringing merchandise into a store and leaving it there. Free Winona!!!!! Posted by: Jay on November 7, 2005 07:34 PM
Uhm. Does this mean that other people who make false charges- like phony rape victims, let's say- can't be prosecuted either? Is this a precedent for allowing people to ruin innocent folks' lives with bullshit allegations? Or does this for only apply when you're stickin' it to The Man? Posted by: lauraw on November 7, 2005 07:43 PM
Good one Jay. And if you steal my bank account number and use it to deposit funds into my account, I promise not to press charges. Posted by: lauraw on November 7, 2005 07:44 PM
The infamous 9th circus court strikes again we are at the mercy of the most over turned court in the nation dont you think its time to put a pernimate end to this court of fools? Posted by: spurwing plover on November 7, 2005 08:27 PM
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Funniest thing I've read about the Virginia mess. Back when they were hustling the referendum through the assembly both Senators, Warner and Kaine, advised them to go slow and play by the rules. Louise Lucas said she respected them but didn't need advice from the "cuck chair" in the corner. The gerrymandering was overturned and Louise is heading for the big house. Edward G. Robinson voice "where's your cuck now?" I posted his post on twitter and it's gotten 25K views so far. Thanks, Smell the Glove Chris
Forgotten 80s Mystery Click That Sums Up the Democrat Communist Party Today
Something is wrong as I hold you near Somebody else holds your heart, yeah You turn to me with your icy tears And then it's raining, feels like it's raining
"It's f**king f**ked."
-- reportedly a genuine comment offered by a "senior Labour source" Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held. Basil the Great
"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)
No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.
Only a cult does this.
Now they've lost 84%.
Annunziata Rees-Mogg Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.
Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...
The British Patriot Wow, up to 1700-2100 seats. It's not incredible that this is happening. It's incredible that the Davos crowd is so absolutely determined to privilege Muslim "migrants" over the actual native population who elects them, no matter how loudly the natives scream that they want to be prioritized, that they will gladly self-extinguish as a party rather than simply representing the interests of their own voters. Astonishing. Remember, when they call other people "cultists" -- they are the ones so imprisoned in their social reinforcement and discipline bubbles that they will choose political death rather than dare upset the Karen Enforcement Officers of their cult. Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending. (((Dan Hodges))) Nick Lowles
STARMERGEDDON: In early returns, Reform gains 135 seats, Labour loses 90, the Fake Conservatives lose 36 (and I didn't even know they could fall any further), the Lib Dems lose 4, and the Greens gain 6. Note that the only other party gaining seats is the Greens and they're only gaining a handful of seats.
Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98. Labour projected to lose Wales -- where they've ruled for 27 years. Fulton County Georgia just discovered 400 boxes of ballots for Labour Update: REF +156, LAB -107, CON -45 Brutal: In four out of five council seats where Labour is defending, they've lost. 80%. I'm sure it's not this simple, but Reform is straight taking Labour's and the "Conservatives'" seats. They've lost almost exactly what Reform gained. If understand this right (and warning, I probably don't), all of London's council seats are up for election, and Labour might lose hugely there, as their old voters abandon them for Reform, Muslim Indenpendents, and the Greens. REF +190, LAB -134, CON -56.
Updates on the Labour collapse in council elections -- which wags are calling #Starmergeddon -- from Beege Welborne. There are about 5000 seats up for grabs, Labour is expected to lose 1,800, Reform will probably gain 1,580, up from... zero. So this would be more than that.
People claim that while Labour has adopted the Sharia Agenda to appeal to the million Muslims it allowed to migrate to the country, those voters are ditching Labour to vote for the Muslim Independent Party or the Greens. Delicious. This shadenfreude is going straight to my thighs. Oh, and if Starmer loses about as badly as expected, Labour will toss him out of a window Braveheart style and replace him. He will announce he is resigning to spend more time with his Gay Ukrainian Male Prostitutes.
Media bias and senationalism are as old as, well, the media:
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