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November 07, 2005
Ninth Circuit Tosses Out Convictions For Making False Charges Against The PoliceSo it, giggle, discriminates on the basis of, chuckle, viewpoint. Errrm... as far as I know there is no civil action for making positive but false statements about someone.* * Okay, well, there's something called "false light" which is either a sort of libel or invasion of privacy, forget which, which can get ya for making false-but-not-defamatory statements about someone. But there still has to be some damage to someone's reputation or privacy. You can't just sue someone for saying you saved eight men during a stormy climb up Mount Everest. A jackass rationale from a jackass cicruit. posted by Ace at 04:25 PM
CommentsSince when is "viewpoint" a suspect classification? (Disclaimer: I ain't no law student, far less an actual lawyer) Posted by: Knemon on November 7, 2005 04:36 PM
Eh. He's already been declared a vexatious litigant so maybe they thought they would toss him a freebee. Posted by: on November 7, 2005 04:44 PM
As soon as "Ninth Circuit" appeared, I knew it was an asshat decision. Posted by: Steve L. on November 7, 2005 04:54 PM
I'm not sure about that last part, Ace. I seem to recall an early-1900's case discussed in the first week or so of Torts I in which a young lady's image was placed on a flour package in a flattering manner, together with the legend "flower of the family." She sued, claiming that the unauthorized reproduction of her image on their packaging placed her in the "false light" of promoting the flour company (a species of invasion of privacy), which she wasn't really adverse to but for which she thought she should have been paid and her permission sought. My (admittedly strained) recollection is that she prevailed, and that this is still more or less the law on that point, viz., that placing someone in a false light is placing them in a false light, even if it's in a positive light, so long as the complaining party was damaged in some way. Here, the young lady's privacy was unquestionably invaded (but again, in a good way, as the packaging was quite flattering and the flour company was otherwise upstanding and reputable), though she was harmed economically due to the lost licensing fee. Where am I wrong here? /O'Reilly voice Posted by: 12" Saturday Night on November 7, 2005 05:21 PM
Ace, you're hurting my head. Or, perhaps it's just the Valu-Rite. I don't even know anymore. Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 7, 2005 05:21 PM
If you actually read the decision - it's clear that the 9th Circuit leaps past every rationale to uphold the law (which I forgot to mention in my post - statutes are presumed constitutional and should be construed as such if possible) - in any event, the 9th Circuit leaps past every plausible defense of the law to see it as a sinister effort to criminalize dissent. Amazingly - the entire California Supreme Court appeared to have missed that. Posted by: Gib on November 7, 2005 05:45 PM
I believe false light is a misappropriation of your image, ID, etc. The soldier who was half-faded out of the magazine pic that went with a story on desertion would also be an example. There is also public disclosure of private facts and invasion of privacy which are truthful by their natures, tortious interference with business relations (truth is not a defense), and a few others. None of which makes the 9th Circus seem more reasonable on the face of things. Posted by: VRWC Agent on November 7, 2005 07:08 PM
"False light privacy": Ace regurgitating some of his old bar exam material. Posted by: Lloyd on November 7, 2005 07:14 PM
I found the right to privacy case mentioned above on LEXIS: it's Roberson v. Rochester Folding Box Co., 171 N.Y. 538 (Ct. App. N.Y. 1902) (now superceded by state statute). Looks like it's better characterized as a right of publicity rather than false light type case, but they are both species of invasion of privacy: From the opinion at p. 543: "It will be observed that there is no complaint made that plaintiff was libeled by this publication of her portrait. The likeness is said to be a very good one, and one that her friends and acquaintances were able to recognize; indeed, her grievance is that a good portrait of her, and, therefore, one easily recognized, has been used to attract attention toward the paper upon which defendant [flour] mill company's advertisements appear. Such publicity, which some find agreeable, is to plaintiff very distasteful, and thus, because of defendants' impertinence in using her picture without her consent for their own business purposes, she has been caused to suffer mental distress where others would have appreciated the compliment to their beauty implied in the selection of the picture for such purposes; but as it is distasteful to her [she was made sick and suffered a severe nervous shock, was confined to her bed and compelled to employ a physician and now] seeks the aid of the courts to enjoin a further circulation of the lithographic prints containing her portrait made as alleged in the complaint, and as an incident thereto, to reimburse her for the damages to her feelings, which the complaint fixes at the sum of $15,000." Goodness, her feelings certainly were easily (and expensively) brusied. I hope they kept a fainting couch nearby. Sorry so OT, but sometimes the minutia is as interesting as the main point. Posted by: 12" Saturday Night on November 7, 2005 07:16 PM
No this makes perfect sense. In the same light, the laws on shoplifting need to be tossed out since there is no law against bringing merchandise into a store and leaving it there. Free Winona!!!!! Posted by: Jay on November 7, 2005 07:34 PM
Uhm. Does this mean that other people who make false charges- like phony rape victims, let's say- can't be prosecuted either? Is this a precedent for allowing people to ruin innocent folks' lives with bullshit allegations? Or does this for only apply when you're stickin' it to The Man? Posted by: lauraw on November 7, 2005 07:43 PM
Good one Jay. And if you steal my bank account number and use it to deposit funds into my account, I promise not to press charges. Posted by: lauraw on November 7, 2005 07:44 PM
The infamous 9th circus court strikes again we are at the mercy of the most over turned court in the nation dont you think its time to put a pernimate end to this court of fools? Posted by: spurwing plover on November 7, 2005 08:27 PM
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What? Skeleton of the most famous Musketeer, D'Artagnan, possibly discovered in Dutch church closet.
Dumas picked four names of real musketeers out of a history book, D'Artagnan, Athos, Aramis, and Porthos. So there was an actual D'Artagnan, though he made most of the story up. (Or, you know, all of it.)* Charles de Batz de Castelmore, known as d'Artagnan, the famous musketeer of Kings Louis XIII and Louis XIV, spent his life in the service of the French crown. A lot of Dumas's stories are based on bits of real history. The plot of the >Three Musketeers, about trying to recover lost diamonds from the queen's necklace, was cribbed from the then-almost-contemporaneous Affair of the Queen's Necklace. And the Man in the Iron Mask is based on real accounts of a prisoner forced to wear a mask (though I think it was a velvet mask). * Oh, I should mention, Dumas says all this, about finding the names in an old book, in the prologue to his novel. But authors lie a lot. They frequently present fictions as based on historic fact. The twist is, he was actually telling the truth here. At least about these four musketeers having actually existed and served under Louis XIV. Fun fact: You know the beginning of A Fistful of Dollars where the local gunslingers make fun of Clint Eastwood's donkey and Eastwood demands they apologize to the donkey? That's lifted from The Three Musketeers. Rochefort mocks D'Artagnan's old, brokedown farm horse and D'Artagnan is incensed.
A commenter asked which should be read first, The Hobbit of LOTR?
Easy, no question -- read The Hobbit first. It's actually the start of the story and comes first chronologically. It sets up some major characters and major pieces in play in LOTR. Also, the Hobbit is Beginner-Friendly, which LOTR isn't. The Hobbit really is a delightful book, and a fast read. It's chatty, it's casual, it's exciting, and it's funny. In that dry cheeky British humor way. I love that the narrator is constantly making little asides and commentary, like he's just sitting next to you telling you this story as it occurs to him. LOTR is a very long story. Fifteen hundred pages or so. The Hobbit is relatively short and very punchy and easy to read. If you don't like The Hobbit, you can skip out on LOTR. If you do like it, you'll be primed to read LOTR. Oh, I should say: The Hobbit is written as if it's for children, but one of those smart children's stories that are also for adults. Don't worry, there's also real fighting and violence and horror in it, too. LOTR is written for adults. (It's said that Tolkien wrote both for his children, but LOTR was written 17 years later, when his children were adults.) Some might not like The Hobbit due to its sometimes frivolous tone. Me, I love it. I find it constantly amusing. Both are really good but there is a starkly different tone to both. LOTR is epic, grand, and serious, about a world war, The Hobbit is light and breezy, and about a heist. Though a heist that culminates in a war for the spoils.
The Hobbit Challenge: Read two more chapters. I didn't have much time. Bilbo got the ring.
I noticed a continuity problem. Maybe. Now, as of the time of The Hobbit, it was unknown that this magic ring was in fact a Ring of Power, and it was doubly unknown that it was the Ring of Power, the Master Ring that controlled the others. But the narrator -- who we will learn in LOTR was none of than Bilbo himself, who wrote the book as "There and Back Again" -- says this about Gollum's ring: "But who knows how Gollum had come by that present [the Ring], ages ago in the old days when such rings were still at large in the world? Perhaps even the Master who ruled them could not have said." In another passage, the ring is identified as a "ring of power." I don't know, I always thought there was a distinction between mere magic rings and the Rings of Power created by Sauron. But this suggests that Bilbo knew this was a ring of power created by Sauron. Now I don't remember when Bilbo wrote the Hobbit. In the movie, he shows Frodo the book in Rivendell, and I guess he wrote it after he left the Shire. I guess he might have added in the part about the ring being a ring of power created by "the Master" after Gandalf appraised him of his research into the ring. I never noticed this before. I know Tolkien re-wrote this chapter while he was writing LOTR to make the ring important from the start. And also to make Gollum more sinister and evil, and also to remove the part where Gollum actually offers Bilbo the ring as a "present" -- Bilbo had already found it on his own, but Gollum was wiling to give it away, which obviously is not something the rewritten Gollum would ever do. But I had no memory of the ring being suggested to be The Ring so early in the tale.
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