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November 02, 2005
Suckers For A Pretty Face - Updated
The female sex hormone oestrogen was thought to be the mediator of beauty, which advertises health and fecundity. Now researchers at the University of St Andrews have shown for the first time that women with higher levels of oestrogen do indeed have more attractive faces. …The hormone/fertility link recalls my favorite evolutionary “So, *that’s* the reason” article from last year: The Economist’s report on why men prefer larger breasts. Behind their wall but reproduced here. Dr. Jasienska measured the vital statistics of 119 women aged between 24 and 37. She also took saliva samples from them over a whole menstrual cycle. So, to review, the estrogen gets you the pretty, feminine facial features (also the nice hips and azz), progesterone and 17-b-estradiol gets you the big boobies relative to waist size. And both of them, it appears, equal more babies. And that is why man likes what he likes. Now you know. (And here, while we’re talkin mammal attraction: The ultrasonic mating songs of the lonely male mouse. Pitch shifted audio here. Via Slashdot) Update: A picture is worth... Facial composites of the 10 women in the study with the highest estrogen levels (left) and 10 lowest (right):
Similarly attractive, men?
posted by Dr. Reo Symes at 12:21 AM
CommentsMen, follow this link for a demonstration of biological evolution in action: Posted by: schroedinger's cat© on November 2, 2005 12:28 AM
And that is why man likes what he likes. Hmm. And that is why a woman likes guys with large hands. Posted by: on November 2, 2005 05:08 AM
Yeah, yeah, whatever-- I want to know what feminine features indicate a proclivity for anal. Tell me THAT, and I'll be a happy rump-camper. Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 2, 2005 06:44 AM
Yeah, uh huh. When I look at a woman, the first thing I think is, "My, her face and boobies make her an attractive mate for producing offspring." Actually, the best quotation I have ever read on the subject is: "According to a recent survey, men say the first thing they notice about women are their eyes. And women say the first thing they notice about men is they're a bunch of liars." Posted by: Steve L. on November 2, 2005 08:19 AM
Note that Symes has helpfully included an example for us, in the form of a T-shirt advertisement. Thank you. Steve- Was that supposed to be sarcastic? Are you telling me that when you see a woman, you are NOT thinking about reproduction-related activities? I know I am. Posted by: Carl on November 2, 2005 08:48 AM
Good going, scientists and politicians. You can't cure the common cold, cancer, or come up with a fuel better and cheaper than gasoline, but you can spend money to tell us men don't like women with ugly faces. Give me some grant money. I'll become the next Madame Curie by studying water and concluding that it's wet. Posted by: Sue Dohnim on November 2, 2005 09:11 AM
Sue, I like the cut of your jib. Posted by: lauraw on November 2, 2005 09:46 AM
It's not that men find baby-making attractive conciously or subconciously. A better interpretation is that male ancestors who did NOT find pretty faces and shapely figures attractive (or didn’t care) had fewer descendents to pass their preferences on to than male ancestors who did, because women with pretty faces shapely figures were more successful having children. Posted by: boris on November 2, 2005 09:56 AM
In a related study, researchers at the University of Miami determined that almost 96% of adolescent males between the ages of 11 and 14 are amused by the sounds they can make with their bodies. Posted by: Dave in Texas on November 2, 2005 10:10 AM
96% of adolescent males between the ages of 11 and 14 are amused by the sounds they can make with their bodies. Wait a minute -- are you telling me those sounds are not supposed to be hilarious any more? Posted by: Michael on November 2, 2005 11:29 AM
Wait a minute -- are you telling me those sounds are not supposed to be hilarious any more? No way to know. Researchers lost their grant after the first phase trials. Posted by: Dave in Texas on November 2, 2005 11:44 AM
leads to large eyes, increased thickness of lips and fat deposition in the cheek area, along with hips and buttocks, features that announce that a woman is fertile. … Well, that explains my four kids. Soo... with the eyes thing, you guys were always lying?? All that mascara for nothing. Posted by: on November 2, 2005 12:09 PM
That was me. Posted by: Rightwingsparkle on November 2, 2005 12:10 PM
Noooo. I think you have lovely eyes. ;^) Posted by: Scot on November 2, 2005 03:31 PM
I have never lied to you Sparkle.
Posted by: Dave in Texas on November 2, 2005 10:29 PM
Those interested in how sex hormones subtly shape physical appearance can find some detailed information here. Also, I have reproduced the main data from the paper by Jasienska et al. here; scroll down for the data on the page linked to. Posted by: Erik Holland on November 3, 2005 08:11 PM
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