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October 28, 2005
Quote of the WeekMr. Wilson's original claims about what he found on a CIA trip to Africa, what he told the CIA about it, and even why he was sent on the mission have since been discredited. What a bizarre irony it would be if what began as a politically motivated lie by Mr. Wilson nonetheless leads to indictments of Bush Administration officials for telling reporters the truth. From the WSJ, culled from FreeRepublic. It's time for Congress to make a criminal referral to the Justice Department regarding Joe Wilson's serial perjury in his hearings. Although he admitted lying to the media -- calling it a "little dramatic flair" -- I do believe he continued to maintain his wife had nothing to do with sending him to Niger. If we're going after perjurers, let's start with Perjurer Zero. posted by Ace at 05:37 PM
CommentsDid Joe Wilson say that in front of a grand jury? Posted by: Geek, Esq. on October 28, 2005 05:40 PM
Testimony before congress is sworn testimony and subject to the rules of perjury, "Expert." Posted by: ace on October 28, 2005 05:41 PM
Damn, Geek, you really took that in the ass. Ace may be a drunken porn addict, but it looks like what's left of his frontal lobes just tacked you to the wall. Oh well, it's not like you rushed to make the first comment and made sure your stupidity will be seen by everyone who opens up the thread or anything. Posted by: 12" Saturday Night on October 28, 2005 05:48 PM
As in Oliver North. Testimony before Congress. Led to 16 felony counts. Of course, there are probably other examples. And of course, the one I thought of first was another target of the left. Posted by: Dave in Texas on October 28, 2005 05:50 PM
So, what are the odds of Scooter being able to drag old Wilson into court for some reason or another? Posted by: Confederate Yankee on October 28, 2005 05:54 PM
Now that the discussion will turn over to 'the run up to the war', let's all keep in mind two things: 1 - Hans Blix had logistical problems getting 17 (that's seventeen) inspectors into Iraq despite having 4 years to prepare for the resumption of those inpections and - fuck, that's it... the UN Inspections Team for all of Iraq during the 'run up to the war' could fit on three school buses. Reality - the Nemesis of the Reality-based . Posted by: BumperStickerist on October 28, 2005 05:56 PM
Hey!! Where'd bbeck's yabos go? Posted by: ACE SUCKS on October 28, 2005 06:02 PM
We have been weaned! Posted by: Reo Symes on October 28, 2005 06:03 PM
I put that up because "bbeck" said I could in the comments. Then I realized-- well, maybe that wasn't even her, just someone saying it was bbeck. I'll put it up when I have an email confirmation from her. Posted by: ace on October 28, 2005 06:04 PM
lol, it was me. Can't you tell by my sardonic wit? But okay, I'll send you an email. Posted by: bbeck on October 28, 2005 06:07 PM
thanks. Just to make sure I'm not outing bbeck against her wishes. Posted by: ace on October 28, 2005 06:11 PM
Yeah, Ace, that was definitely me, and you also have my permission to photshop that picture so I appear to be buck naked. Posted by: bbeck on October 28, 2005 06:12 PM
Hah. Now I know that wasn't bbeck. See? My prudence is, ummm, prudent. Posted by: ace on October 28, 2005 06:13 PM
Yeah, Ace, that was definitely me, and you also have my permission to photshop that picture so I appear to be buck naked. DEFINTELY not me. Ace has pics he doesn't need to photoshop. ;) Posted by: bbeck on October 28, 2005 06:18 PM
Please cite specific PROOF that Wilson lied to the Congressional committee. Posted by: Geek, Esq. on October 28, 2005 06:19 PM
No, it's in the record. If you were the "expert" you claim to be, you'd know all about his statement and the smoking gun memo in which Plame put forward his name. Do your own homework, Legal Eagle. Posted by: ace on October 28, 2005 06:24 PM
No, let's just kill the lying m*therf*cking son of a skank whore (Wilson, I mean. Not Geek, Esq.). Posted by: Sharkman on October 28, 2005 08:54 PM
The same Joe Wilson that George H W Bush called a "hero?" Wilson isn't the issue. Libby, Rove, Bush, and Cheney are the issue. You can call Wilson however many names you like, but you cannot obscure the fact that (if the allegations in the indictment are correct), senior govenment officials outed a CIA agent in a political vendetta and then lied about it to the grand jury. That's the issue. Wake up. Posted by: the seeker on October 28, 2005 09:03 PM
"Please cite specific PROOF that Wilson lied to the Congressional committee." "No, it's in the record." Wow, that's the weakest response yet. You make a claim, and insist that the people that think you are wrong do the work to back it up. In other words, you don't have a leg to stand on. I've done plenty of homework on this, and you're just wrong. Posted by: Chris on October 28, 2005 09:04 PM
Yeah? Care to make it intesting, asshole? It will take me ten minutes to find the memo, and I'll find it, but I intend to be paid for doing so. $50 will buy you a citation to the memo in which Plame offers her husband for the Niger trip. Pay me, asshole, and it's yours. Otherwise, just google it your fucking self. I don't do bitch-work for bitches. Posted by: ace on October 28, 2005 09:08 PM
I don't play fetch for ignornat liberals because this is their stock in trade. They demand "proof" of everything, provide none themselves, and then when you take the time to find the document for them (which anyone passing themselves off as being "informed" on the subject should already know about) they just say, "Oh, that doesn't prove anything." So let's skip the middleman. Just assume I provided the document, and now you say, "Oh, that doesn't prove anything anyway." You know you're going to anyway. Why the charade? Why pretend this document matters to your "thinking" one way or another? Why falsely claim that this evidence will be weighed at all? Liar. Posted by: ace on October 28, 2005 09:13 PM
How odd, the mainstream press didn't think Ms. Plame had been "outted" when they filed their Amicus Brief to try to keep Judith Miller out of jail. But even more oddly, they continue to argue on their front pages that just such an "outting" occurred. Which is it, lefty fucknozzles? Read, and enjoy, morons: https://www.spj.org/briefs/032305_MillerCooper.pdf Posted by: Sharkman on October 28, 2005 10:12 PM
but you cannot obscure the fact that (if the allegations in the indictment are correct), senior govenment officials outed a CIA agent in a political vendetta God, what retards your trolls are. Something is not a "fact" if it hasn't been established. Let's try similar retard troll logic: Hey troll! You cannot obscure THE FACT that (if I can prove you murdered a bum behind Walmart last week) you are a cold blooded killer! God, what a waste of time. My dog is smarter than these assholes. Posted by: The Warden on October 28, 2005 10:32 PM
More reading for the factually challenged circle jerkery of the left: http://www.nationalreview.com/may/may200507150827.asp; Posted by: on October 28, 2005 10:39 PM
Well, seeker, he may have been a hero at one time, but later became a zero. And it is sad when it happens. As proof I cite the military career of one Benedict Arnold. His actions before Quebec and at Saratoga were truly heroic, and it was only later that he fell away. The Senate Intelligence Committee report is all the proof you should require, if proof you actually want. As a bonus, I will note that Mr. Fitzgerald did not charge anyone for letting out Ms. Plames' identity, hence she could not have been covert. Mr. Libby's problems are solely due to Mr. Libby's actions during the investigation, not due to the outing of Agent 99 1/2. Posted by: Mikey on October 28, 2005 10:50 PM
NRO? Political hacks all of 'em doesn't prove a thing need more proof show me the actual real genuine receipt where Saddam Hussein persanolly signed for yellowcake uranium from that wonderful Nigerian man who keeps sending me emails and mayube jsut maybe that would be enough proof........but I doubt it. Posted by: Circle Jerky Left on October 28, 2005 10:52 PM
As a bonus, I will note that Mr. Fitzgerald did not charge anyone for letting out Ms. Plames' identity, hence she could not have been covert. Here's something even better - CNN transcript where Joe Wilson confesses to Wolf Blitzer: My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity. Posted by: Sue Dohnim on October 28, 2005 10:58 PM
The Seeker: "Wilson isn't the issue. Libby, Rove, Bush, and Cheney are the issue. You can call Wilson however many names you like, but you cannot obscure the fact that (if the allegations in the indictment are correct), senior govenment officials outed a CIA agent in a political vendetta and then lied about it to the grand jury. That's the issue. Wake up." This is the most factless pile of tripe I've read so far today. I'm afraid, that based on the allegations you've brought forth, Joe Wilson is indeed, "THE ISSUE." The FACT that he was proven to have lied, and had already been discredited, DESTROYS you left-wingers' "argument" that the Bush adminstration was trying to, 'smear,' him. Your pathetic attempts to tie all this into a cover-up of Bush's, "lies," show just how desperate you are to try and salvage something, out of what has essentially turned out toe be NOTHING. Posted by: JannyMae on October 29, 2005 02:26 PM
"The same Joe Wilson that George H W Bush called a "hero?" That's the one. History's an odd thing. People change. Ideological landscapes change. Allegiances shift. Personalities curdle. News flash: with a few exceptions on either side (Mother Theresa, *pace* Hitchens, and oh, to pick someone in the news of late - Saddam Hussein, on the other) people aren't, and certainly don't remain, "bad guys" or "heroes." Apart from Tim Robbins, of course. I got a feeling that he's really out to save the world. Posted by: Knemon on October 29, 2005 05:21 PM
The same Joe Wilson that George H W Bush called a "hero?" This is my favorite defense of Wilson yet. C'mon, you assholes, just cut to the chase. Tell us that Wilson's mother loves him. No! Wait, I got better: Try marching around shouting "Jesus loves Joe Wilson!" That oughta make those knuckle-dragging religious folk think! Posted by: Sortelli on October 29, 2005 06:29 PM
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MacDonald's old partner Adam Egot revealed that MacDonald repurposed a bit with one of his ventriloquist dolls -- that he was a "bad guy" who "didn't believe the Holocaust happened" -- for the Norm MacDonald show, in which he claimed Egot didn't believe in the Holocaust. Funniest thing I've read about the Virginia mess. Back when they were hustling the referendum through the assembly both Senators, Warner and Kaine, advised them to go slow and play by the rules. Louise Lucas said she respected them but didn't need advice from the "cuck chair" in the corner. The gerrymandering was overturned and Louise is heading for the big house. Edward G. Robinson voice "where's your cuck now?" I posted his post on twitter and it's gotten 25K views so far. Thanks, Smell the Glove Chris
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"It's f**king f**ked."
-- reportedly a genuine comment offered by a "senior Labour source" Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held. Basil the Great
"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)
No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.
Only a cult does this.
Now they've lost 84%.
Annunziata Rees-Mogg Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.
Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...
The British Patriot Wow, up to 1700-2100 seats. It's not incredible that this is happening. It's incredible that the Davos crowd is so absolutely determined to privilege Muslim "migrants" over the actual native population who elects them, no matter how loudly the natives scream that they want to be prioritized, that they will gladly self-extinguish as a party rather than simply representing the interests of their own voters. Astonishing. Remember, when they call other people "cultists" -- they are the ones so imprisoned in their social reinforcement and discipline bubbles that they will choose political death rather than dare upset the Karen Enforcement Officers of their cult. Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending. (((Dan Hodges))) Nick Lowles
STARMERGEDDON: In early returns, Reform gains 135 seats, Labour loses 90, the Fake Conservatives lose 36 (and I didn't even know they could fall any further), the Lib Dems lose 4, and the Greens gain 6. Note that the only other party gaining seats is the Greens and they're only gaining a handful of seats.
Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98. Labour projected to lose Wales -- where they've ruled for 27 years. Fulton County Georgia just discovered 400 boxes of ballots for Labour Update: REF +156, LAB -107, CON -45 Brutal: In four out of five council seats where Labour is defending, they've lost. 80%. I'm sure it's not this simple, but Reform is straight taking Labour's and the "Conservatives'" seats. They've lost almost exactly what Reform gained. If understand this right (and warning, I probably don't), all of London's council seats are up for election, and Labour might lose hugely there, as their old voters abandon them for Reform, Muslim Indenpendents, and the Greens. REF +190, LAB -134, CON -56.
Updates on the Labour collapse in council elections -- which wags are calling #Starmergeddon -- from Beege Welborne. There are about 5000 seats up for grabs, Labour is expected to lose 1,800, Reform will probably gain 1,580, up from... zero. So this would be more than that.
People claim that while Labour has adopted the Sharia Agenda to appeal to the million Muslims it allowed to migrate to the country, those voters are ditching Labour to vote for the Muslim Independent Party or the Greens. Delicious. This shadenfreude is going straight to my thighs. Oh, and if Starmer loses about as badly as expected, Labour will toss him out of a window Braveheart style and replace him. He will announce he is resigning to spend more time with his Gay Ukrainian Male Prostitutes.
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