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October 27, 2005
Miers Withdraws!More [Added By Ace]: Captains Quarters responds to Hugh Hewitt's argument that, by tanking this nomination, conservatives have helped liberals defeat future nominees. Hewitt's argument is that we blocked her from having a full up or down vote on the Senate floor. So why, he asks, shouldn't liberals do so for the next nominee? Well, first of all, as a technical matter, Miers withdrew her nomination. If the liberals can provoke the next nominee into withdrawing his or her nomination, then I guess they will have won that battle, though I don't see that as likely, and I don't see such an effort as being helped much by the Miers episode. More importantly, though: liberals will fight like cats and dogs to oppose any strong conservative nominee. They would have before; they will in the future. They always will. Which is why it so galled me that Bush gave up. Why is it always we who are expected to give in and give up? posted by Harry Callahan at 10:27 AM
CommentsIs this the first time a SCOTUS nominee got bounced for being too liberal? After losing Bork, Ginsburg and so many others, it's interesting to see this. I wonder if it's an anomaly or a turning point? Posted by: V the K on October 27, 2005 10:31 AM
funny, I started thinking this week the wind had shifted...couldn't see any measurable support out there for her. Posted by: Dave in Texas on October 27, 2005 10:35 AM
Does anybody else think Bush is capable of making the next choice someone dreadful in an entirely different way, out of spite? You know, unassailably competent, but dreadful, so we'd have to eat it? I hope I'm misunderestimating him. Posted by: S. Weasel on October 27, 2005 10:38 AM
So far, from reading the tea leaves at NRO, hopeful signs point to a much better nominee, both in terms of resume quality and appeal to the base. The best off-the-cuff suggestion (from Chris Matthews!) was to nominate Ted Olsen. I like the sound of that. Posted by: Harry Callahan on October 27, 2005 10:43 AM
The thought has crossed my mind, as well. Posted by: Slublog on October 27, 2005 10:44 AM
I heard about this on the way to work this morning on the syndicated "Bob and Tom" radio show. Which ever one of those gooobers announced it then said, "I guess she wasn't acceptable to the right wingers......who wanted Hitler." Bob and Tom have permanently lost a listener. Not that' I'd imagine it makes them a shit. Posted by: Sticky B on October 27, 2005 10:50 AM
If he's as mad and possibly as recalcitrant as John King claims he is I think he just might nominate Gonzales. I don't think this president likes to be pushed. However he may decide to cut his loses and appease the base. But it's hard to see Bush doing so, after being pushed. Posted by: ChrisG on October 27, 2005 10:52 AM
I question the timing. Posted by: Sterm26 on October 27, 2005 10:52 AM
Well, crap -- now I've gotta drop my "clip ace a buck for every Miers post" shtick. Can I fine him a dollar for other infractions? Say, buying Popov vodka insetead of Valu-Rite because it was a dime cheaper when bought by the gallon? How would I enforce it? BTW, I too am glad Miers withdrew. I just hope Luttig replaces her. Posted by: Monty on October 27, 2005 10:57 AM
Man, I was in need of a good new fix. I'm going to be optimistic and say that Bush won't seek revenge on the base by nominating Gonzales or worse; at first sight that Ted Olson suggestion at NRO looks pretty appealing. But right now, I'm just thrilled that this particular trainwreck has finally skidded to a halt. Glad to see the people over at NRO praising Miers, BTW. I don't want to see her on SCOTUS, but she's not a dunce or an evil person, and I'm sorry she went through this. I'm glad the farce is over, and she probably feels the same way. Posted by: utron on October 27, 2005 11:01 AM
Its about fucking time. Not let's get Laura Ingraham nominated. Hot babes for SCOTUS! Posted by: Iblis on October 27, 2005 11:01 AM
Umm "good news," not "good new." I'll stick to coffee, thanks. Posted by: utronqrmbitton@hotmail.com on October 27, 2005 11:02 AM
My mom withdrew her nomination once. ONCE! Posted by: Danny Vermin on October 27, 2005 11:06 AM
My blog's polling always showed that her nomination was weak within Bush's base; 35% of the GOP base was DEEPLY OPPOSED; a president cannot govern effectively without a third of his base. IN OTHER WORDS: Her withdrawal proves that ELECTIONS COUNT! When an elected leader fails to satisfy the folks who elected him they will NOT be happy. And elected leaders need to keep their supporters happy; that's DEMOCRACY IN ACTION. I hope Bush nominates a stellar JUDGE and constitutional SCHOLAR who will satisfy the base who ELECTED HIM TO DO JUST THAT! (Just as I would expect that Hillary would nominate liberals - just as her husbnad Bill did.) Posted by: reliapundit on October 27, 2005 11:08 AM
Somewhere, Hugh Hewitt is weeping. Posted by: Sean M. on October 27, 2005 11:09 AM
btw: i'm betting on luttig or mcconnell. leaning mcconnell. would most love rogers brown - but don't expect bush to pick a fight just now... Posted by: reliapundit on October 27, 2005 11:10 AM
I was trying to reserve judgement on her until the hearings, but the anger on both sides, coupled with the inevitable knock-down drag-out fight coming, was probably going to make it not worth it. So this is probably for the best. Posted by: brak on October 27, 2005 11:12 AM
Now we can expect posts by Ace to dwindle to next to nothing. So now that his Miers worries are gone, will he finally be able to get it up for his Asian 'help'? Posted by: compos mentis on October 27, 2005 11:13 AM
Well, crap -- now I've gotta drop my "clip ace a buck for every Miers post" shtick. Don't be so hasty. I'm listening to Laura Ingraham and she still can't stop foaming at the mouth about it. BTW, I too am glad Miers withdrew. I just hope Luttig replaces her. No, thanks. I's a strong supporter of the death penalty. Unfortunately, Luttig carries too much baggage in that area and it would give opponents much to bitch and moan about. Posted by: on October 27, 2005 11:19 AM
I've never been so relieved. To get Miers through the Senate was a shitty fight to pick, and a worthless hill to die on. Bush spent political capital on a mediocre candidate. Posted by: rho on October 27, 2005 11:21 AM
No gloating. This whole experience has been like getting into a really, REALLY bad fight with your significant other, and that person finally admitting that they were wrong. The relationship won't be the same, but now's the time for the aggrieved (the anti-Miers folks) to accept the olive branch with dignity and no "Thank God" comments. Thank the President for doing the right thing, and say nothing more about it. Posted by: Sean on October 27, 2005 11:21 AM
I don't think being relieved and saying "Thank God" counts as 'gloating,' but I agree with your overall point. Someone should tell Hewitt it's time to stand down from DEFCON-1, though. In today's early morning post, that guy was getting nasty and declaring war. When is he going to realize how unnecessarily bitter his own words made this fight? Posted by: Slublog on October 27, 2005 11:25 AM
I don't know, Sean. As a (mostly) Miers defender, I'm right there with the "Thank God" crowd. Regardless of whether Bush had sized her up correctly, there was no way this was going to go well. And there is no shortage of bench strength where candidates are concerned. Posted by: VRWC Agent on October 27, 2005 11:31 AM
This is bad for Conservatives. We need judges that will interpret the constitution without bias, not those who push an agenda (liberal or converative) on the entire population. Miers would have done the job of interpreting the Constitution very well and Bush nominated her so you know she would have been good. All the pressure Miers got from all those Conservatives saying she isn't conservative enough to sit on the supreme court gives all of us a bad name. Liberals are the ones who want thier judges to have their agendas pushed on the public, not Conservatives. Posted by: Stafford on October 27, 2005 11:36 AM
Just as we get past one disheartening episode, Bush and the Congresscritters throw another at us. Bush Blinks on Davis-Bacon Suspension, Dems Still Angry Some tasty quotes - Because the GOP doesn't have the votes to allow the suspension to stand, Miller said, Bush has "no option but to reverse his mistake." House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) - Ugh - surely the Autumn of our discontent. Posted by: Barbula on October 27, 2005 11:44 AM
Um Stafford, the whole point was that what little evidence we had, Miers would not "interpt The Constitution" well and would legislate from the bench. Between her '93 speech, her support for Affirmative Action and failure on basic consitituional questions (apportioned representation??), she did not look at all to be a constrctionist as promised by W. And since her only qualifications were Now the real question is has W learned his mistake, or is he going to nominate his dentist. And did he do this to get back at Coulter for her opposition to Roberts. Now her column today is irrelevant! P.S. Stafford, you dipshidiot, Constitution is capitalized (when referring to our document), conservative is not. ya smelly hippy Posted by: HowardDevore on October 27, 2005 11:56 AM
Supposedly wages in the area are substantially through the "Davis-Bacon level" on scarcity, so in dollar terms his capitulation cost us nothing. Politically, he was asking GOP congresscriters from union areas to take the hit without any savings to show for it. I hate to see a priciple die, but this one probably made sense. Posted by: spongeworthy on October 27, 2005 12:00 PM
Pretty exhaustive list Howard, but you forgot all the action she gets on her pins for such a small bowler. Posted by: Nicholas Kronos on October 27, 2005 12:09 PM
Ace, I was thinking that it might be fun to throw a "Fitzmas" party on the site tomorrow. If indictments come down, we can riposte the inevitable flood of "toldya so!" posts from Bean-O and vonK; if it's a "no-file", we can smear their tear-stained faces into the dust while we roar out troll-like laughter. Whaddya think? Posted by: Monty on October 27, 2005 12:09 PM
I'm going to make a bold prediction about the next SCOTUS nominee. Whoever the nominee is, Hugh Hewitt is going to be an enthusiastic supporter! Mark my words. Posted by: Shtetl G on October 27, 2005 12:17 PM
Sean-- great post, sums up my feeling pretty well. Monty-- Popov?!? Yeesh, hangover flashbacks. . . I too question the timing. Here Karl Rove planned this whole Miers thing just to distract us from Fitzmas. Wow, he's good. As for the next nominee, I'm getting the gut feeling we're seeing the bait & switch theory in action. Not that it was intentional, of course, but at least Bush can now nominate somebody based purely on competence alone, rather than being a check in a demographic box. Honestly, he can nominate another white male conservative with a paper trail a mile long, and his retort to that will be "Folks criticized me for nominating someone with minimal experience-- so I nominated Judge Bork." Yeah, that's would be sweet. Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on October 27, 2005 12:35 PM
Given the significant intersection of nerddom and neocons (and you know what that means, or at least what C*d*rf*rd wants it to mean) here, instead of "Fitzmas", if indictments do get handed down I recommend calling it "KHAANNukah!" Posted by: Lapsed Leftist on October 27, 2005 12:41 PM
Monty, I'm in.
Posted by: Dave in Texas on October 27, 2005 12:51 PM
We're getting a party together! I do like the KHAANukah thing, too -- we can have somebody do a mash-up of Shatner's hammy crie du coeur and make it the official carol for the season. Fitzmas can have many meanings: if indictments are indeed handed down, we can consider it the Neocon Day of Atonement, a day for somber reflection; or if a no-file comes down, it can be a day for dancing, joyous laughing, and sending the lefties home crying hot snotty tears of shame. Either way, much Valu-Rite vodka may be consumed and many Vietnamese ladies (or gentlemen) ruthlessly violated (but well-paid, since I presume we are all market-capitalists here!). Posted by: Monty on October 27, 2005 01:15 PM
1. Note that she used the executive-privilege excuse, just as Krauthammer had suggested last week. 2. I wouldn't be shocked if this had been planned. - The Dems gained creds by not filibustering Roberts, and even voting 50-50 on him; were poised to defeat next nominee - Therefore: pick a sacrificial lamb; let it be known she's a fundie (via, say, a "top secret" conference call that was bound to leak out), making Dems go ballistic and spend their creds on her; then withdraw her, and nominate whomever you really want. What went wrong was that right-wingers were principled enough to go ballistic instead... Posted by: Stumbo on October 27, 2005 01:35 PM
I hope those who would welcome a Ted Olsen nomination were not the same ones being critical of the Miers nomination for one of their many reasons, her age. Ted Olsen was born in 1940. Posted by: Dman on October 27, 2005 01:45 PM
A Fitzmas/KHAANukkah celebration sounds like it could be fun. The Airing of Grievances, the Feats of Strength... Posted by: utron on October 27, 2005 01:55 PM
Monty, that's a great idea! If I have to eat a super-sized helping of crow, I'd just as soon there was no question at all that I showed up and tucked in with a good will. Though I'm still holding out hope. If he doesn't extend the grand jury or issue indictments by tomorrow afternoon, is that absolutely it? Are we done? The worst scenario is an inconclusive fizzle. Posted by: S. Weasel on October 27, 2005 01:55 PM
Don't forget the Flame War as part of the festivities! Or the Proving of Nerd Bona Fides. Now that I think about it, the latter will probably lead to the former. Posted by: Lapsed Leftist on October 27, 2005 02:23 PM
KHAANukah! Oh I love it! Too beautiful. Posted by: Sue Dohnim on October 27, 2005 03:18 PM
"I hope those who would welcome a Ted Olsen nomination were not the same ones being critical of the Miers nomination for one of their many reasons, her age. Ted Olsen was born in 1940." Dman, most references to Meirs' age that I saw were in the context of "well, we should put her on the Court 'cause she'll die soon anyway." In other words, it came from her supporters. Maybe you saw otherwise? Posted by: Sobek on October 27, 2005 03:38 PM
The Washington Monthly || RedState.org Blogs for Bush: The White House Of The Blogosphere: Miers and the ... Posted by: Dman on October 27, 2005 04:17 PM
Well, that sort of puts the lie to the notion that bloggers don't carry any weight. I'm a little torqued that Miers has to carry the load and withdraw her own name. Bush should be taking the responsibility for nominating her in the first place instead of sloughing the decision off onto her. He'd better listen to the base on his next nomination (Estrada!!!) or the howling from this time around is going to look like a love fest in comparison. Posted by: bbeck on October 27, 2005 04:23 PM
One way or the other, Scooter Libby gets the "They got Gannon! Oh Christ, they got Gannon!" treatment. Agreed? Posted by: spongeworthy on October 27, 2005 04:43 PM
Dman, I stand corrected. Posted by: Sobek on October 27, 2005 05:50 PM
Not that anyone gives a rusty rip, but if ANYONE had known for sure (by record) that Miers would interpret the Constitution as written, she would have had all the backing of the conservative base she or GW could have handled. Problem was, nobody knew. It should not be lost on anyone, most of all our President, that it was the conservatives that forced her withdrawal, not the Dems. If GW is as intelligent as he wishes to appear, he will nominate someone now who will send the Dem senabats into orbit, have his knock-down, drag-out fight, come out a winner, and have the Dems tame for the rest of his term (as long as he doesn't pull another Miers blunder). He also needs to learn that "Trust me" just doesn't cut the mustard when his trustworthiness is questionable to begin with (via illegals, overspending, etc.) We all wish Miers the best, but I'm personally glad we don't have to watch her on the SCOTUS. Posted by: Carlos on October 27, 2005 06:22 PM
On C-Span now: Sen. Byrd talking crazy loose shit. Byrd is calling on the prez to call him for advice. Posted by: Bart on October 27, 2005 09:21 PM
Not that anyone gives a rusty rip, but if ANYONE had known for sure (by record) that Miers would interpret the Constitution as written, she would have had all the backing of the conservative base she or GW could have handled. Problem was, nobody knew. Sorry, that's not why I opposed her. I opposed her because she was nothing special and was picked solely because she's was Bush's FRIEND. Presidents can get away with this sort of cronyism for some positions but the Supreme Court calls for more. The Republicans have gotten onto the Democrats for refusing QUALIFIED applicants because they don't agree with their judicial philosophy...and now are we going to turn around a reject a candidate because of her (potential) judicial philosophy? Uh, NO, we shouldn't be doing that. Let's leave the hypocrisy to the other side. Posted by: bbeck on October 28, 2005 09:54 AM
bbeck, Judicial philosophy is important in that a person not willing to honor the oath that person takes ("to uphold the Constitution...") should not be put on any court, let alone the SCOTUS. Miers was a crony pick, but had she been a highly qualified pick, there would have been nothing wrong with it. We have a good idea she was not highly qualified (by experience, education, etc.), but most importantly we have no idea if she respects the Constitution or would rewrite it. I see no hypocracy in my statement. What I'd like is for the Senate to examine people like Ginzberg, then explain how she is qualified by philosophy, since she is so intent on removing at least the first ten amendments and some of the main body of the original Constitution. If she was the most qualified person to sit on the court when she was nominated, God help us! Posted by: Carlos on October 28, 2005 11:29 AM
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