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October 16, 2005
What does the 'A' in AP stand for? A**HOLE?!Sunnis Appear to Fall Short in Iraq Vote Yeah, they fell short all right. They wanted a bloody civil war, but all they got was a democratic constitution guaranteeing human rights. Maybe they should make that into a T-shirt slogan or something! How about, "My father died fighting infidels but all I got was this lousy constitution." posted by Tanker at 07:24 PM
CommentsYes. Posted by: Pixy Misa on October 16, 2005 07:32 PM
AP = (A)ll (P)ropaganda, all the time Posted by: on October 16, 2005 09:18 PM
The AP and Al - Reuters are propaganda arms of the left wing. Feel free to totally ignore them.
Posted by: fugazi on October 16, 2005 09:31 PM
It's gettin' pathetic. I just heard 'em saying stuff like, "Well even though the vote went ok and there was significantly less terrorist attacking going on and the Constitution looks like it'll be ratified -- there sill be controversy and political strife!" Yeah, Lady -- completely unlike any other country I can think of offhand. Sterling insight. Posted by: Claire on October 16, 2005 10:52 PM
Check out this Wapo article: For the Bush administration, the apparent approval of Iraq's constitution is less of a victory than yet another chance to possibly fashion a political solution that does not result in the bloody division of Iraq. Publicly, administration officials hailed the result but privately some officials acknowledged that the road ahead is still very difficult, especially because Sunni Arab voters appeared to have rejected the constitution by wide margins. As one official put it, every time the administration appears on the edge of a precipice, it manages to cobble together a result that allows it to move on to the next precipice. etc. etc. etc. In other words, it's not good news, it's just that the Bush administration escaped catastrophe again by the skin of its teeth. Posted by: Steven Den Beste on October 16, 2005 11:01 PM
It's interesting that so many of the 'internationalists' manning (and womaning) the press in this country filter the news through a very provincial lens, namely "everything is bad or bogus, it's America's fault, and specifically that of George Bush". Good for Iraq, no matter how the vote comes out. I hope the constitution is approved, but even if it isn't, the fact that Iraqis decided, in a real, uncoerced vote, is a triumph. A pain in the ass if it doesn't pass, but still a triumph. Sneers and jeers from the stupidigensia can't undo the fact that people can vote in Iraq now, and have done so enthusiastically twice in the past year under threat of serious violence. Posted by: Dave Eaton on October 17, 2005 12:29 AM
Notice how opponents of the Constitution are equated with "Sunnis" as if they are one and the same. Apparently no Sunnis voted yes by the AP's reckoning; instead, "the Sunnis" tried to defeat it, and failed. Notice also how it is taken as a given that the Constitution passing is a defeat for "Sunnis". Since the Constitution was (apparently) approved, the Sunnis "fell short", or lost. It is not even left open to the reader as a possibility that this Constitution passing might be a good thing for Sunnis, or at least some of them. Finally notice how the entire Iraq situation is now filtered through a template of What's happening to the Sunnis? They're, like, the left's mascots now. Who gives a rat's ass about the majority of Iraqis? We wanna know what's happening to *the Sunnis*! Are they happy? Are they satisfied? It's enough to make you wonder whether the left thinks we should just bring back Baathist minority rule and be done with it. The irony of the "left" being effectively in a position of favoring minority-rule fascism and religious-based caste dominance would be astounding... if the reason for it weren't so bloody obvious. Posted by: xmath on October 17, 2005 12:58 AM
Check this out: A former MSM talking head has stepped forward and commented on the obvious. We're making progress!!! Posted by: THIRDWAVEDAVE on October 17, 2005 01:03 AM
Minority=victim Posted by: harrison on October 17, 2005 09:32 AM
The A in AP stands for AWFUL and thats what most of the liberal news meia is its just plain AWFUL Posted by: spurwing plover on October 17, 2005 09:54 AM
The AP tells us that their reporter was killed in a concentration camp. It fails to mention that he died after he fell out of a guard tower. Posted by: Mike on October 17, 2005 10:01 AM
Steven Den Beste wrote: Again. Or maybe not. Lots of the catastrophes the Bush administration is supposed to suffer from look a bit... not-as-catastrophic-as-some-wish-it-to-be. Egads. I think I'm getting bored with the claims. Posted by: Patrick Chester on October 17, 2005 11:02 AM
On Saturday night (at the normal gathering of friends for beer-swilling and grilling during this sweet spot of weather before Winter kicks in) one of my friends got very very angry (red in the face angry) about my bringing up the topic of the iraqi vote, the apparent lack of violence, and how I was encouraged by this. He sputtered that the vote was a 'farce' , that the Sunnies voting against it proved that the insurgency was winning, nothing has changed, and only a fool would take heart that the voting happend. He seemed most upset and, well, pissed off that the voting went well. I quickly changed the topic to Bush's 'staged' event & let him mock Bush for a while (he did not know the details for example claiming that the troops were fed questions as opposed to Bush asking quesitons but hey, except he was certain that it showed that Bush lied again). He calmed down and was able to laugh at the canoe story from the Today show. We then wisely dropped all political conversation. Still, I was quite shocked at his reaction to my pleasure with the lack of violence during the vote. If I did not know my friend, I would have assumed he would have wanted more violence--which he does not. So I don't understand his postion at all...maybe it is simply not logical. Just anti-Bush, all the time regardless of the subject or the cost. Oh well, he does not vote so no big deal. This&That Posted by: This&That on October 17, 2005 11:17 AM
this&that, BDS is often an invisible disease. It can be difficult to recognize BDS sufferers. I'm sorry about your friend. Posted by: lauraw on October 17, 2005 11:49 AM
.."But with your support, we'll find the cure. Already, real progress is being made, and minds are being saved. Send your contribution today, won't you? Together, we'll win the fight". Posted by: The BDS Foundation on October 17, 2005 11:54 AM
Actually, BDS will go in sudden remission in November '08. Posted by: lauraw on October 17, 2005 12:18 PM
Wouldn't that have to mean that a surprisingly high percentage of Sunnis voted yes? Did those Sunnis fail as well? I also like the part where the AP suggests that people would vote yes just to hasten the departure of the US (i.e., they all turned out to vote in order to make Kos happy); that it's not about self-determination or anything like that. Posted by: ArrMatey on October 17, 2005 12:21 PM
"whether the left thinks we should just bring back Baathist minority rule and be done with it." You have to ask? Leftists, and more specifically academics, will gravitate towards the Sunni for a host of related reasons. Although the Shia are the majority in Iraq, in "The Arab World" (an abstraction that Sunnis are big, big into, and which MESA types like Cole tend to adopt wholesale as it makes their jobs simpler) they are seen as an eerie fifth column, sort of like a cross between the Waffen SS and Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel. Leftists have always had this problem, although to them it's not really a problem since they transcend it mentally. So what if, in this particular instantiation of "socialism as it exists," in this one shitpot country, a minority is in charge? They're in tune with the worldwide vibes of the proletariat (or, alternatively, the heartbeat of the Arab psyche, or whatever bullshit you want to place here), or the Third World (Mugabe, Chavez), or whatever - and so they speak for the true majority. The transnational majority. Arguing about a few ethnic cleansings here and there is, to them, besides the point. Discussion Question: Why was there never a Fascist International along the lines of the Comintern, the "Nonaligned" movement, the Warsaw Pact, NATO, etc.? Extra points for using the modifier "sac-tightening". Posted by: Knemon on October 17, 2005 01:08 PM
Is this for real? Posted by: Bart on October 18, 2005 12:04 AM
Knemon squeezes out this lie: "Leftists, and more specifically academics, will gravitate towards the Sunni for a host of related reasons. Although the Shia are the majority in Iraq, in "The Arab World" (an abstraction that Sunnis are big, big into, and which MESA types like Cole tend to adopt wholesale as it makes their jobs simpler) they are seen as an eerie fifth column, sort of like a cross between the Waffen SS and Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel." Juan Cole never said anything like that. On Cole's blog you can read the transcript from a recent TV appearance, where he said it was certainly better the constitution passed rather than failed. But it is seriously flawed, and empowers the forces working against a central govt. The constitution practically legitimizes the partition (civil war) of the country, after formation of confederacies. The point is that there were plenty of reasons to be dissatisfied with the Constitution. How about, "My father died fighting infidels but all I got was this lousy constitution that codifies the worst of the ethnic divisions." Posted by: tubino on October 18, 2005 12:06 AM
It's great to see that we have managed to spread American-style emocracy to the Middle East. As Drudge reports: Iraqis Probe 'Unusually High' Yes Tally I would swear that the Dems sent advisers over to consult with the Sunnis about how to handle an election loss. Posted by: Steve L. on October 18, 2005 08:06 AM
I'm sorry, tubino, where did I lie? What would your ideal Iraqi charter look like? How would you deal with the Sunni insurgency? Yes yes, I know, Juan Cole's 10 point (or was it 12?) plan. Anything to say other than that? Posted by: Knemon on October 19, 2005 12:52 PM
""Leftists, and more specifically academics, will gravitate towards the Sunni for a host of related reasons." Was this the lie? Cuz sitting 100 yards from Berkeley's MES center, it sure looks and feels like the truth to me. Posted by: Knemon on October 19, 2005 12:54 PM
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Funniest thing I've read about the Virginia mess. Back when they were hustling the referendum through the assembly both Senators, Warner and Kaine, advised them to go slow and play by the rules. Louise Lucas said she respected them but didn't need advice from the "cuck chair" in the corner. The gerrymandering was overturned and Louise is heading for the big house. Edward G. Robinson voice "where's your cuck now?" I posted his post on twitter and it's gotten 25K views so far. Thanks, Smell the Glove Chris
Forgotten 80s Mystery Click That Sums Up the Democrat Communist Party Today
Something is wrong as I hold you near Somebody else holds your heart, yeah You turn to me with your icy tears And then it's raining, feels like it's raining
"It's f**king f**ked."
-- reportedly a genuine comment offered by a "senior Labour source" Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held. Basil the Great
"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)
No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.
Only a cult does this.
Now they've lost 84%.
Annunziata Rees-Mogg Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.
Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...
The British Patriot Wow, up to 1700-2100 seats. It's not incredible that this is happening. It's incredible that the Davos crowd is so absolutely determined to privilege Muslim "migrants" over the actual native population who elects them, no matter how loudly the natives scream that they want to be prioritized, that they will gladly self-extinguish as a party rather than simply representing the interests of their own voters. Astonishing. Remember, when they call other people "cultists" -- they are the ones so imprisoned in their social reinforcement and discipline bubbles that they will choose political death rather than dare upset the Karen Enforcement Officers of their cult. Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending. (((Dan Hodges))) Nick Lowles
STARMERGEDDON: In early returns, Reform gains 135 seats, Labour loses 90, the Fake Conservatives lose 36 (and I didn't even know they could fall any further), the Lib Dems lose 4, and the Greens gain 6. Note that the only other party gaining seats is the Greens and they're only gaining a handful of seats.
Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98. Labour projected to lose Wales -- where they've ruled for 27 years. Fulton County Georgia just discovered 400 boxes of ballots for Labour Update: REF +156, LAB -107, CON -45 Brutal: In four out of five council seats where Labour is defending, they've lost. 80%. I'm sure it's not this simple, but Reform is straight taking Labour's and the "Conservatives'" seats. They've lost almost exactly what Reform gained. If understand this right (and warning, I probably don't), all of London's council seats are up for election, and Labour might lose hugely there, as their old voters abandon them for Reform, Muslim Indenpendents, and the Greens. REF +190, LAB -134, CON -56.
Updates on the Labour collapse in council elections -- which wags are calling #Starmergeddon -- from Beege Welborne. There are about 5000 seats up for grabs, Labour is expected to lose 1,800, Reform will probably gain 1,580, up from... zero. So this would be more than that.
People claim that while Labour has adopted the Sharia Agenda to appeal to the million Muslims it allowed to migrate to the country, those voters are ditching Labour to vote for the Muslim Independent Party or the Greens. Delicious. This shadenfreude is going straight to my thighs. Oh, and if Starmer loses about as badly as expected, Labour will toss him out of a window Braveheart style and replace him. He will announce he is resigning to spend more time with his Gay Ukrainian Male Prostitutes.
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