The Wiccans should update their creed. "Do as thou wilt, but stop annoying normal people."

"A Puyallup School District internal email dating from October 2000 warns that 'the Wiccan religion is a bona fide religion under the law...'"

Anyone else see a serious constitutional problem with this statement?

Oh, give me a break. If I call myself and Elf, that does not give me the right to sue Keebler.

Wiccans are a new-age cult based on nothing older than 19th century ramblings by opium-addled Victorian occultists.

"...Witches with pointy noses and things like that are not respective symbols of the Wiccan religion and so we want to be respectful of that,..."

But if you want to put Crucifixes in urine or throw cow shit on a painting of Mary, go right ahead.

Oh, and Scott? Grab me a couple of bags of Pecan Sandies, please.

I used to date this gal who called herself a Wiccan. As it turned out, she was basically just a New Age nutcase who hadn't the faintest idea of what a "real" Wiccan faith involved. (For example, she was surprised to find out that Samhain and Halloween were not the same thing.) I would have dumped her sooner, but she was...talented...in other areas.

Good point JohnO.

They do however make some decent furniture, though it's not really very comfortable to sit in and it's hard to keep your wine glass from tipping over when you set it on their tables.

The whole thing is just a mess. In fact all religions when you look at them really close are pretty bizarre.

I think in this case it is a crazy but then there are crazies in all religions.

Still at the end of the day I'm with compos; they make shitty furniture.

If there is a bigger pile of crap than Wicca, I'll wear it as a suit. It's a goof for weird kids and isn't much different than those Goth vampire clubs one sees more and more now. People are welcome to follow this or Kabbalah or any other cult, but cut the rest of us some slack. Wasting a court's time with silly Wicca lawsuits or bullying schools into canceling Halloween goes beyond marching to a different drummer and into being a public asshole. Grow up.

If Christians tried to cancel Halloween (claiming that it's "pagan" and thus evil), people would freak out about America turning into a theocracy.

C'mon now it's all a big pile of crap unless it's what you happen to believe.

If there is a bigger pile of crap than Wicca, I'll wear it as a suit.

Oh, man, UDAdawg, you're gonna regret that...

I'd say that Scientology is a larger load of steaming monkey-puke by far than Wicca, which at least has some distant relation to actual Celtic practices. And what about that Heaven's Gate thing with the UFO hding in the tail of the comet? (Any religion that requires me to chemically castrate myself...well, Monty don't play dat way.) Then there's the Aum Shinri Kyo cult in Japan that gassed people in the Tokyo subways a few years back.

As far as wonky cults go, Wicca is way down the list in my opinion.

In defense of Wicca:

Willow - Pre-Wicca

Willow - Wicca

It's Wicca-rific!

So bumper, plain girl + wicca = freak-in-the-sack

Bumperstickerist:

You might wanna tag that second one with a maybe-NSFW tag -- I got bleeped by our firewall's nasty-filter when I clicked on the second link.

OK, Monty, point taken. But I'm using hyperbole to make a point of my own. Yes, those other things are certainly flakes o'plenty, and yes, Wicca might be less stupid by comparison. But society (real society, not Hollywood fruit balls) have marginalized most fringe nerd cults, whereas Wicca seems to be slowly wedging itself into maintstream cultural acceptance. I don't give a damn if schools have Wicca clubs on their campuses, but I object to litigation forcing them to when any school club or activity that slightly smacks of Christianity is usually sued into oblivion these days. Professional dickheads like Michael Newdow go purple with outrage over things like invocations, yet ruining Halloween for a bunch of kids because of fucking costumes is no biggie. That's what burns me, and I'm no Bible thumper by any stretch of the imagination.

Monty, the "actressass.com" domain didn't tip you off?

Megan,

Hey, who checks the damned status-bar when clicking a link? (Well, this is AoS HQ...point taken.)

UGADawg:

You preachin' to the converted, brother-man.

Sorry about that firewall problem.

>>> 2nd Link in My Previous Comment may be NSFW

There - problem solved.

Sounds like time to reactivate the inquisition! The idea that witchcraft is OK is not just nutty in itself, but stirring belief in the occult, for whatever purpose, can open the door to all sorts of trouble.

I am a devout Christian, and I LOVE Halloween. It's a festival like Mardi Gras, not a worship event. Like Mardi Gras it has its roots in the Christian calendar, but so do many other occasions ("Winter Break" comes to mind, for one). If the Wiccans want to worship on Halloween, they can keep their kids home from school without penalty, but let the rest of us have fun.

Note to all: please don't be offended by things that predate your culture's integration into the United States. We won't make you "melt" into our pot, but please stop telling us we have to change.

25 years ago it used to cost $20 to become a priest/cardinal/pope/whatever in the ULC - now its free.

GET ORDAINED NOW(online and free)

Forget all that Wicca crap, a ULC ordination is the real deal. Slap that "clergy" sign on your dashboard and you can avoid almost any parking violation.

*sigh*

I dated a real deal witch (wiccan variety).

She was nuts.

Ergo, they're all nuts.

I dated a Wiccan once too.

She was on a full ride post-doc at Cornell from DoD studing germ warfare.

Just wait until someone says that Harry Potter should be banned from the schools because it's offensive to witches. Then we shall see this nonsense put behind us.

I'm confused...

Cynthia Simpson (Witch) previously lost a 4th circuit case arguing that a Virginia county acted unconstitutionally when they denied her the right to open their governmental meetings with a Wiccan invocation.

And the USSC will now not hear here ACLU backed appeal.

So what happened to their position that there should be no religion in public anywhere? If I didn't know better, I would think they are only out to get Christians.

Hal, you beat me to it. Reading that list of "offensive Wiccan stereotyping" I was thinking, well, I think Harry Potter hits every single one (and then some).

Hey, they came for Piglet, can Harry Potter be far behind?

"Freaking the mundanes" is part of the fun. (Steve Jackson included a card by that name in the collectable card game "Illuminati: New World Order".)

"Freaking the mundanes" is part of the fun.

Stash a slim-jim tool for breaking into cars in your car. I carry one, some auto parts stores carry them. When you see some happless fool locked out probing with a coat hanger or other ineffective contraption, offer to help and whip out the slim-jim.

It even freaks out the people who think they are cool trying to freak people out.

If you can't find one commercially, a 3' length of the wider heavy duty pallet banding metal will work fine. A bit of work with a hacksaw and a file will make a dandy one.

No go forth and have fun "Freaking the mundanes" (and performing a useful public service at the same time.)

God the real creator of the universe these wack wiccans beleive its gaia and with halloween comming up with the turn judges into toads?

Less is more, Spurwing. HAVE SOME XANAX