I have to admit being in the crochet league is probably more conducive to long life than carelessly shooting yourself (or others) in the head with a nail gun, inserting limbs into whirling machinery, or *gasp* strapping on a bomb vest to voice your "dissent".

and everyone knows peeing your name in snowbanks in -40F temps presents some DISTINCT risks that most females won't be exposed to (and if they are, can I have your phone number, you're my kinda gal)

Yeah, but being male kicks too damned much ass!

/TJ
Oh, and ideas do d8's? Not bad, what's there range?

For example, changes can be made in the way that young males are socialized into patriarchal gender roles, such as the emphasis on risk taking, aggression and suppression of emotions, the researchers said.

Maybe the reason countries where men slap chicks around have a higher male mortality rate is because the chicks pack heat in those countries. Mine does.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to my daily brutal regimen of risk taking, aggression and suppression of emotions.

Ace, you just gotta post this

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1486190/posts?page=10#10

You know, you can see these peoples' biases in the way they frame the issue.

Why is it "In societies where men slap chicks, men live shorter lives" and not "In socieites where men slap chicks, chicks outlive men!" Why always the bad, never the good - the constant negative spin on domestic violence?

Also, a more rigorous mathematical approach would have helped - weighting for countries where the chicks, as a percentage, 'had it coming' more often or were more uppity than the mean.

Just saying.

1d8? Wow, you *are* old school.

Haven't you heard? The Socialist Popular Front has ordered everyone to use 1d20. D20 will increase efficiency by establishing uniform rules that every member of the proletariat can use.

OBEY THE D20. It is our glorious future, comrade!

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Ace, you just gotta post this...

Hot stuff - muslims "offended" by ice cream cones.

Damn it doesn't get any more crackpot than that.

This cuts through the freeper illegible web page format (why can't someone fix that anyway?) and takes you straight to the Scotsman story:

Burger King recalls 'sacrilegious' desserts

What's the point in living if you can't oppress and shit?

Damn, I do believe Dr Reo is onto something here.

Why is it "In societies where men slap chicks, men live shorter lives" and not "In socieites where men slap chicks, chicks outlive men!" Why always the bad, never the good - the constant negative spin on domestic violence?

A presentation and excerption of scientific data by non-scientist some time presents later in awkward way. I have not read complete article. So, mine observations are based on published info.

I question their assumption that patriarchy influence on male death rate. What definition of patriarchy was used in the study? On what base 51 countries considered patriarchic? In mine opinion it’s wrong approach to test a hypothesis referring to certain % of male murderers assuming later one as a representative experimental unit in their study.

"Our data suggest that oppression and exploitation harm the oppressors as well as those they oppress,"

Isn’t it already known?

“…. young males are socialized into patriarchal gender roles, such as the emphasis on risk taking, aggression and suppression of emotions, the researchers said.”

Yes, male is the male. Neither man want to be nor woman wants to marry “man in the dress”. The differences of the response to the socioeconomic factors differ among male and female. A gender differences and ways of resolving problems are known. The tendency to suppress or release emotions is influencing factor on life expectancy, although is not the major one. Applied methods produce misleading data.

It is obvious that other, most important factors, which influence on males death rate were omitted in this study, rather researchers concentrated on some issues, which might contribute to the death rate in male population, but only in minor way. Communication between genders is the key of the stable and loving relationships in marriage.

I learned today from mine friend that people in arranged marriages in her country was observed to be happier compared with marriages based on love. Other study has indicated that in happy marriage man and woman are healthier, whereas in unhappy marriage woman is the one, who suffers more than man.

"In societies where men slap chicks, men live shorter lives"
Well, yeah, 'cause you're going to have to go to sleep sometime!
Hey, mysogynists! Wake up and smell the mattress burning!

Neither man want to be nor woman wants to marry “man in the dress”.

Never been to San Fransicko or the Village eh?

Women live longer because childbirth is one of the most life-threatening things someone can go through. Centuries ago it was common for women to pretty much have children on a constant basis, which meant that the most resilient women would survive long enough to sneak out a few more kids than her weaker peers. Hence, females tend to live longer than males.

Women are also encouraged much more than men to seek medical care.

I'd hazard a guess that more women keep up with their ob/gyn appoinments than men do to, say, get their prostates checked.

Women live longer because childbirth is one of the most life-threatening things someone can go through?

Childbirth is normal physiological process, which can be life-threatening, but not necessary. Yes, women were stronger years ago but weaker now. The epidural anesthesia is the number one choice (currently) most women prefer to have during the labor. Still, there are some side effects and complication with this procedure.
Regular childbirth doesn’t extend woman’s life expectancy. It works other way. The natural selection over centuries was the key in both genders. Other example, Sparta, Greece. Although, with improving of the life style people became lazy. I am sorry, but how many people exercise at least three times per week, eat healthy food, and spend some time in terms of spiritual healing. I am not refering here to church.
How many people haw optimal or normal weigh? Good start to move to other associated diseases and psychological stress, higher expectancy performance on job, life, and coping with stress on daily basis.

I am sorry, but how many people exercise at least three times per week, eat healthy food, and spend some time in terms of spiritual healing.

Tell us more about healthy eating and spiritual healing. The people here at Ace of Spades just love that kind of crap.

More I learn - more I do not know nothing.
Master of None is capable to find out on his/her own.
I more than confident.

Live a long boring life, or rock and roll dance party till you drop and second where are these strong women and why havn't they done anything significant. when are they going to learn that we, men, are full of shit its just we know how to manipulate their emotions. if they would just learn to supress their emotions they wouldn't be so weak. duh. women are just too caught up with the emotions that they can't focus on the goal at hand, distroying your enemies. you only need one emotion, hate.

Okay, y'all -- here's someone who plays with mortality tables for their job. For one thing, I've looked at the Social Security tables, running from 1900 - present.

In the U.S., since 1900, males have always had a higher mortality than females. At every age. From birth.

Some of this is probably directly genetic, due to such things as there are more male babies with birth defects, for example.

But one particular mortality pattern seems to stem from behavior.

In general, there's a relatively high mortality at birth, and mortality keeps dropping, before hitting a low at 10 years old. Then the mortality rate starts to rise and rise, and then somewhere in middle age the slope of the mortality curve gets steeper. It just keeps increasing...

Well, except in men, there's a little mortality bobble in adolescence. From about age 15 to age 25, there's an even larger margin of mortality between men and women. Mortality rates for men actually drop around the mid-20s.

I like to call the period of heightened mortality the "stupid period" for obvious reasons, though there are some non-stupid reasons for heightened mortality of men that age: military service. If ever I forgot when WWII or WWI was, all I have to do is look at mortality tables from various countries (though the Spanish flu outbreak during WWI had a larger impact on mortality).

I don't doubt that in some societies the "stupid period" can have a profound impact on male mortality in countries where the army gets used alot as well as where the options for stupidity are so much wider. In the U.S., guys tend to have to stick to car- and drug (I'm including alcohol)-related mishaps for high mortality, but elsewhere you get honor killings and suicide bombing.

Why this is supposed to be news, I don't know.

Am I being more dense than usual, or do the findings of this study boil down to "In countries where a lot of women are killed, a lot of men are killed?"

Which is more likely: that patriarchy is actually physically detrimental, or that, y'know, in some countries people die younger?

sortapundit: "Am I being more dense than usual, or do the findings of this study boil down to "In countries where a lot of women are killed, a lot of men are killed?""

No. Dense would be claiming that "being male" is exacting violence against women. The headline of this post should be: "Real Men Die Older," but the point was lost on Harry.

I think your conclusions are more logical: the more untimely the death of women in an area, the more likely the death of men in that same area. Like. Duh.

The prevalence of violence against women was used to indicate the extent of patriarchal control in each of the countries.

Because there are no better indicators (such as "Can women vote?" and "Can women drive cars?" and "Can women own property?")? No, I suspect this metric was chosen because--suprise!--violent societies tend to be more violent against both sexes. For that matter, why not choose societies by comparing male victimization to female? Wouldn't that be more likely to pick up "patriarchal control" than one that doesn't control for violence against men? Heck no, because that's not likely to produce the desired result.

And the flip side is so obvious--that women do better relative to men in the violent societies--you'd think even an academe would notice.

"Preventable social condition", eh? Is there some sort of cream I could use...?

Live a long boring life, or rock and roll dance party till you drop

Everyone chooses his/her own way of living life. You can dance and rock all spring and summer, but fall and winter comes. What is going left is just memories, great if they are worth while.

where are these strong women

There are strong women, just need to know where to look. Open your eyes wider. Who search them he will find:)

why havn't they done anything significant

Women done a lot in all areas of science and society, ht.: encyclopedia

when are they going to learn that we, men, are full of shit its just we know how to manipulate their emotions. if they would just learn to supress their emotions they wouldn't be so weak

I would not be so sure to state this. With wise woman, man is wise.

women are just too caught up with the emotions that they can't focus on the goal at hand, distroying your enemies. you only need one emotion, hate.

They caught with emotions, because they have feelings, which they can’t separate from logic. They have responsibility and more bonded than man; to break is much harder for a woman than for man. Well, it might vary from the situation.
This is why you are with them, otherwise you bags are packed or on the driveway.

In relationships, women are sensitive, in business they are taught, sometimes even very taught.

I hate studies like these. They ignore one of the most fundamental facts about statistical research: Just because two phenomena occur together doesn't mean that one causes the other.

Example: Let's say there was some statistical fact that countries with the highest toaster usage were also the countries with the highest incidence of alcoholism . . . should we conclude that toasters lead people to drink? No way! Sometimes these data are just coincidence!

And the flip side is so obvious--that women do better relative to men in the violent societies--you'd think even an academe would notice

I agree with this that woman do much better in violent societies. I think, because of their consciousness and as I mentioned in my previous post, because of the responsibilities and bonds. The responsibilities for the children they are growing and marriage they entered ones. They tend to forgive a lot, leaving door for understating and waiting to long for this to happen.

Yes, they are resilient and sometime too much. They attain the strength and they express emotions. These emotions are protection and kind of a release of negativity, whereas lock inward cause psychological distress. Man tends to be manly and lock it inside and this is the problem.

When mutual understanding, patience, receptiveness, willingness to communicate, and accept each one as they are, happens, than everyone realize life is life, where each of us learn how to live and go from grade to grade as they live on Earth.

Life is not boring; we are boring, because we choose it.
Smile and day will smile to you! Be sincere with your smile and world will smile to you!

How do you type with a Scottish accent?

Every man dies. Not every man really lives.

Naturally, none of this has *anything* to do with the local economics, or personal freedom, or prevailing culture, or dominant religion...

Angelique: My compliments on your English. What is your native language?

I can't believe it, my co-worker just bought a car for $33624. Isn't that crazy!