Wow, you are just Bill Motherfuckin' Nye this week, aren't you pal?

But seriously, that's fascinating. Bizzare as all hell, but fascinating.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

I've always marveled at how the efficacy of drug treatments can vary so much from person to person (though the medical establishment often seems to think one size fits all). I wonder if this means that the efficacy of a drug treatment can vary within your body?

I had no idea that was Bill Nye's middle name.

;-)

So, uh, does this mean that OJ really wasn't guilty?

If the DNA is split, you must acquit.

"I'm a supporter of Barry Schect's Innocence Project"

I never thought I'd hear those words coming out of your mouth, Ace. If that's true then you should be ashamed. That horrible farce and all its equally disgusting offshoots are one of the worst abominations inflicted on law enforcement, the courts, and the people of the United States in a very long time.

And not that it matters much but it's Scheck, not "Schect." He's still a worthless piece of shit.

Lydia Fairchild's children were ordered taken from her by a judge because tests consistently showed her children were not a genetic match to her.

Blerp?

I hope there's a lot more to the story than that.

On the other hand, I'm too lazy to follow the link.

That's just wild.

"but i hope the possibility of chimerism is being examined in cases where there's a lot of non-DNA evidence..." You mean like fingerprints on the gun or the exculpatory statement made by the criminal might really have been made by his chimeristic twin!

I would have thought that the woman's immune system would have tried to destroy the organs with the "alien" genes. However, it's somehow been conditioned to accept tissue from the absorbed twin as friend rather than foe. I wonder if a similar process could be used to have the body accept an organ transplant?

How exactly is a court order for a semen sample from an unwilling suspect carried out?

They get "Hand JobHerbey" to... well... give him a hand!!!1!

I believe chimerism was the defense of that bicyclist (not Lance Armstrong) who got busted for blood doping; i.e., it was his explanation for how there was more than one type of blood in his system. Apparently, his claim is that the 2nd blood type was from a long lost phantom twin who never made it to birth around the time he was born. (My recollection of the story is dim, but you could look it up.) Some experts are buying the bicyclist's defense, others not.

Oh, cripes. I read your whole post, except for the part, highlighted in red, talking about the blood-doping bicyclist. What a dope I am. Sorry about that.

Wicked. So she's actually her children's aunt.

I am my own grampa.

When Grissom finally got wise and figured out he might have a chimera on his hands, he got a court order for a semen sample, and then he finally got that long-anticipated genetic match.

Wait a second... The court can actually order you to jack off?

What if it's against your religion? That would be inhuman.

Or what if you have "performance anxiety" or "equipment failure?" Can they order a cute nurse to "assist" you?

I once had a twin
I ate her in utero
Cannibalingus?

I once worked with a guy who was an obvious chimera, part black and part white. No joke. He had patches of low-melanin skin and red hair.

> I wonder if a similar process could be used to have the body accept an organ transplant?

The immune system learns to recognize "self" in early development. So a chimera would recognize both DNA lines as "self."

If it turns out that replacement organs are easier to grow from certain cell lines than from others, it might be worth it to mix in a few cells from such a line when you have a baby. Then when necessary, the kid could accept a transplant from the standard, mass-produced line with no rejection problem. I was going to write an SF story about someone holding the transplant cell line hostage, but never got around to it.

Exactly how do the police get a semen sample from an uncooperative suspect?

Exactly how do the police get a semen sample from an uncooperative suspect?

They have to beat it out of him? : )

Yall seem awfully concerned with how this semen was obtained. No worries. I got your answer.

It was in the script.

Can they order a cute nurse to "assist" you?

Not if you're in an HMO.

Exactly how do the police get a semen sample from an uncooperative suspect?

They have a doctor do a prostrate massage.

"I'm a supporter of Barry Schect's Innocence Project"

Megan's right. I'm all for the use of dna to prove guilt or innocence, but Scheck uses it to abuse the system, case in point: Kevin Cooper.

How did they get the semen sample? Hmmm... I don't know.

In a pinch, a hypodermic can be stuck in...

Wow!
I'm a chimera!
And my mother and father were brothers!

They have a doctor do a prostrate massage.

Oh shit. I am sooooo sorry I asked the question.

The cyclist was Tyler Hamilton, and he's as guilty as OJ is innocent.

I am shocked and awed...

Exactly how do the police get a semen sample from an uncooperative suspect?

My blender and ruffies stand ready to assist law enforcement in any way possible where an innocent person's fate is at stake!

I used this once in an argument about the earliest stages of life in a discussion about something I will not name.

Nobody believed me that chimarism was even possible.

I gues that's "chiMERisam"

Hmm. I wonder what allah is going to do now?

I recall the term "electro-ejaculation" from an old TV movie about test tube babies or something, not sure if it's real or not, they seemed to not want to admit that they guy had to milk himself.

"Wait a second... The court can actually order you to jack off?"

The 5th Amendment argument has been tried, and ... beaten.

Uh, or so they tell me.

Chimerism is a lot more common than we thought....in medicine, it is a condition they can get after an organ transplant and the like.....that is why organ transplant patients have to take immunosuppressant drugs.

ya right ... why are u sarcastic about this issue. as if chimeras do not exist ??