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September 09, 2005
Sorry, Guys, Cedarford's BannedI let him go for a while, but after multiple warnings after which he has demonstrated repeatedly he cannot contain himself, I thought it was time to part ways. I just don't have time to patrol his posts for their virulent antisemitism and racism anymore. Free speech and all, yeah, but I don't need that kind of shit reflecting on me. Or, quite frankly, reflected in my advertising rates. I'll welcome an email noting which blog he chooses to disgrace next and let you know whom he's decided to infest, just in case anyone gets the hankerin' to say hello or beat up on him. Say You, Say Me... In Memoriam. Because Some Are Curious: Cedarford got booted for the comment in the rebuilding New Orleans thread (the first one). Something about him not being happy to save a city "run by blacks too incompetent" to evacuate via buses. Run by blacks? How, exactly, is that relevant, if not in the way he obviously intended it? If it were just that one comment, I might have cautioned him. But I've had to caution him repeatedly before, and he just would not, or could not, contain himself. The Jew stuff I excused because he was so thoroughly mocked for it. And this site is Jew-friendly enough that I figure I'm kind of immune to charges of running an anti-Jew hate site. But I haven't spoken much about race, by conscious choice, because it's very hard to speak about race without getting into trouble. I've attempted to write posts about racial issues but I've abandoned them as requiring too goddamned many caveats and such. But having said little about it leaves me open to charges of racism, especially with a guy like Cedarford running around posting such gems as black people only wanting "loose shoes and tight pussy" (for crying out loud, even his racism is paleo; I heard that freshman year of college, and it was ancient by then). I had to delete that a week or two ago, and I gave him his last warning. I guess he was accustomed to warnings, and paid me no heed. Well, no, that really was the last warning. Sorry, dude. Should have listened. I like having this blog. It's fun. I get to say stupid things and occasionally get an "attaboy" from folks. No crazy blog money, but once in a while there's enough donations and BlogAds payments to buy some D&D miniatures. But I'll be goddamned if I'll allow myself to get personally or professionally damaged by running this thing. I'll be goddamned if I get booted from a job or refused an interview because it gets out that I'm running a "hate site." A hobby isn't worth that, and I'm just not risking it. So Cedarford, warned again and again about anti-semitism for a full year, and then warned a couple of times about racism, decided he just couldn't be bound by a simple rule. Well, he's not bound by that rule any longer. I wish him well. Unbanning Cedarford's IP: Dave from Texas has demonstrated that AOL users have different IP's at different times. So it seems I might just have blocked a common AOL IP which Cedarford won't be using next time, but other posters will. So I will unban the IP address. I will attempt to delete every single Cedarford comment, innocuous or not, pain in the ass though that is.
posted by Ace at 10:44 PM
CommentsHe's always welcome at Cedarford* Sucks. Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on September 9, 2005 10:58 PM
You are such a shameless link whore. :-) Posted by: Slublog on September 9, 2005 10:59 PM
Sorry, Guys, Cedarford's Banned Spoken like a first-class JEW. Posted by: Bill from INDC on September 9, 2005 11:00 PM
awww, Bill, don't even tempt me. Posted by: ace on September 9, 2005 11:02 PM
I question the timing. Posted by: Warthog on September 9, 2005 11:02 PM
Karl Rove commanded me to distract from the Michael Brown firing. Posted by: ace on September 9, 2005 11:05 PM
The Jew is using Ace as muscle against you. And you are left there helpless. Well, what are you going to do about it, whitey? Just sit there? Posted by: steve_in_hb on September 9, 2005 11:09 PM
Yay! Posted by: lauraw on September 9, 2005 11:09 PM
Aw, lame. This means you deleted his comments, huh? Loose shit, Ace. Loose shit. The prudent thing to do would be to collect his worst (best!) comments and post them in a grand farewell. Posted by: Russell Wardlow on September 9, 2005 11:10 PM
Wha...? You mean he'd gotten even WORSE lately? Geez, that's what I get for not keeping up with the Comments section. Don't let the virtual door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya. Wanker. Later, Posted by: bbeck on September 9, 2005 11:11 PM
OK with me. From my perspective, the Cedarford joke was old. Posted by: Michael on September 9, 2005 11:13 PM
And, I guess, I should confess to working the Cedarford joke to death (especially to Brewfan), but I did quit before it came to this. Brewfan, please accept my humble apology. Posted by: Michael on September 9, 2005 11:21 PM
So, what was the last straw? Posted by: Sean M. on September 9, 2005 11:28 PM
Well, screw this, then. Jesus-humper. Posted by: pseudarford on September 9, 2005 11:29 PM
So, what was the last straw? Posted by Sean M. at September 9, 2005 11:28 PM A check from Ace's ZIONIST benefactors, I'd imagine. Cedarford spoke a bit too much TRUTH to POWER. Posted by: Bill from INDC on September 9, 2005 11:34 PM
tis a far far better thing I do, than I have ever done before Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 9, 2005 11:37 PM
Oh, goddamnit. What triggered this? It's not like I had any love for Cedarford, Ace, you know that. But seeing that he'd just posted was always amusing, and sometimes the ensuing flamewars were a treat to watch (and/or fan). Your site's going to be lessened by his absence; we need that sort of indefatigable loon. Posted by: Megan on September 9, 2005 11:51 PM
Good point. Who wants to take over the part of "indefatigable loon?" Any volunteers? Posted by: Slublog on September 9, 2005 11:53 PM
He will be missed. In a sick sort of way; like when you've had a wart burned off. Posted by: Log Cabin on September 9, 2005 11:54 PM
I nominate Slu. Later, Posted by: bbeck on September 9, 2005 11:55 PM
loon = easy Posted by: steve_in_hb on September 9, 2005 11:56 PM
I nominate Slu. If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve. Posted by: Slublog on September 9, 2005 11:56 PM
will you cook? Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 9, 2005 11:59 PM
For all of you, absolutely. Posted by: Slublog on September 10, 2005 12:03 AM
All Righty then: Who voluteers to be the resident NAZI? The only thing more fun and funny to parody than the lefties are the Nazi's. You realize of course that if we can't find a Nazi we'll have to get up much earlier and work harder to have as much fun.Jeez I think the stress is getting to me. I'll have to break out an extra cigar and another brandy. Posted by: john on September 10, 2005 12:04 AM
I hate Illinois Nazis. Posted by: Harry Callahan on September 10, 2005 12:08 AM
Dammit I always miss the good stuff! Posted by: Iblis on September 10, 2005 12:15 AM
*grumble* Spoil sport. What are we going to do for entertainment now? I'm going to run out of antifreeze and brake fluid for drink mix pretty soon. Posted by: Tony on September 10, 2005 12:29 AM
UNBAN CEDARFORD the campaign begins here Posted by: Megan on September 10, 2005 12:32 AM
And Ace, no f'n smart-aleck replies about ending wherever. BRING BACK CEDARFORD Posted by: Megan on September 10, 2005 12:33 AM
I dunno, Megan. If we all pitch in and use a little elbow grease, why, we could be just as anti-Semitic as Cedarford. I'll get the ball rolling: Fucking Jews! Posted by: Sean M. on September 10, 2005 12:50 AM
Sorry, Sean, you're just not getting any oomph into it. Posted by: Megan on September 10, 2005 12:56 AM
I don't know if anyone else has noticed it, but Cedarford;s comments shows up at Belmont Club every once in a while. His posts there are pretty arrogant, though not quite as unhinged as they are at Ace's. Now that he's banned here, I'm sure it won't be long before he's in full Mein Kempf mode over at BC. In case you've never visited BC, what can I say?, it's a serious blog. Cedarford unleashed will completely freak Wretchard and company out. Anyway, it's a good blog. Has to be: Andrew Sullivan can't stand it. Posted by: djc on September 10, 2005 12:57 AM
DJC - Cedarford's been over at the Club for quite a while now. Well before he was over here at Ace's IIRC. Posted by: Megan on September 10, 2005 12:59 AM
I know all the lyrics to Springtime for Hitler Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 10, 2005 01:03 AM
Sean M.: I'd nominate you for resident Nazi, but then ace would have to ban you. You see you're way too weak on the anti-semtic logic. First you have to find a conspiracy. Then you need to blame joooooos for all the evil things that happen. Bush is an honorary Jew because he's hated by the left in the same way Jews were hated by Hitler. Conspiracy, causation of all bad things, stupid (Genetically inferior) and of course eeeviiiiiiil. Not just anyone has the talent or dedication to be a Nazi. Sorry, you're not made of the right stuff. Nice try though. Read Mein Kamf and listen to some Hitler speeches and practice up on developing serious paranoia and we'll reconsider your application. Thanks for your gracious offer. Posted by: john on September 10, 2005 01:09 AM
Megan, Really? I read one of his comments there a month or so ago, and he seemed to imply that he had just just started mouthing off there. He was able to suppress his hidden Aryan in the comments he left there, though it seemed that most of the commenters there (like here) couldn't stand him. Posted by: on September 10, 2005 01:14 AM
1:14 am was me Posted by: djc on September 10, 2005 01:16 AM
know all the lyrics to Springtime for Hitler Posted by: john on September 10, 2005 01:19 AM
Megan, I don't think so. I brutally outed him not too long after he showed up there months back. Posted by: someone on September 10, 2005 01:20 AM
Drudge linked this but IGNORED the best part -- the comments. Gotta read the comments below the piece. Dude is going to need some bootie skin grafts after the ripping these readers are giving him. Posted by: Tony on September 10, 2005 01:21 AM
ah where to begin? Germany was having trouble, what a sad, sad story Springtime for Hitler and Germany, Springtime for Hitler and Germany, I was born in Dusseldorf, and that is why they call me Rolf. Springtime for Hitler and Germany Springtime for Hitler and Germany Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 10, 2005 01:26 AM
What's amazing is that he survived over six months here after that insane outburst. Posted by: someone on September 10, 2005 01:26 AM
Dave: You bring tears to my eyes. That is still funny after al l these years. Posted by: john on September 10, 2005 01:30 AM
someone, I followed your link re Cedarford. Yikes. I take back what I posted earlier. Apparently Cedarhead is in full Ubermenschen (sp?) mode 24/7, at anyone's website. I can't believe those comments he directed at Jeff G. Ugh. Posted by: djc on September 10, 2005 01:36 AM
In the original movie, it was Mel Brooks' voice doing the "don't be schtupid be a schmarty, come and join the Nazi party" lyric. Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 10, 2005 01:36 AM
djc and someone: Do a search over at the Club's website for "cedarford." He's been there for ages, much longer than a month back. Posted by: Megan on September 10, 2005 02:41 AM
I went and checked out that cedarfod sucks blog. Let me tell you why I hate him. He once wrote: "Watch the kosher hotties you desire reject you for Mbutubo and Levon and Tyone-Mecca-Ali! It must suck to be you!" I have no respect for an anti-Semite who would miss the real funny. "It must suck to be you!" should have read "It must suck to be Jew." GODDAMMIT, I EXPECT BETTER FROM MY RACISTS. Fucking amateur. Posted by: JimK on September 10, 2005 03:03 AM
Can we keep Coop? He swears a lot and talks funny. I think he's hot for Slublog though. Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on September 10, 2005 03:03 AM
Megan, I did the same search you did, but most of the comments seem to be dated within the last few months. No big deal. Has anyone figured out on which thread, and what comment (which I'm sure Ace deleted) that Cedarhead got turfed on? Posted by: on September 10, 2005 03:09 AM
anon - maybe it's your settings or something. I get stuff dating back well over the past year+. And I'd like to know exactly what he said that got him kicked out too. And where. Posted by: Megan on September 10, 2005 03:15 AM
I think it was a NO looter thread about a week ago. Ace: 7 days to ban him? Even BushCo's FEMA cronies acted faster!! /snark Posted by: djc on September 10, 2005 03:27 AM
Well shit, if it was about the race of the looters, I'll take up Cedarford's banner my own fucking self. Posted by: Megan on September 10, 2005 03:32 AM
Seems like Ace has been trying to keep the profane fun while cleaning up the asswippians. More power to the boy, self-molesting though he be. Posted by: geoff on September 10, 2005 03:35 AM
I'm rather new here and I was a littel surprised at some of the crap he posted. Subtle sometimes, but still obvious. Posted by: Silk on September 10, 2005 03:56 AM
He *was* a fixture here... you know, like that 50 year old antique toilet fixture that's rusted through and keeps spewing feces throughout the room. Well, they're not called "brownshirts" for nothing... (BTW, I'm still laughing over that comment about how to summon The Cedarford... Beatmorejews! Beatmorejews! Beatmorejews! Who came up with it?) Posted by: David Ross on September 10, 2005 05:08 AM
Ace wrote: " once in a while there's enough donations and BlogAds payments to buy some D&D miniatures." You know that the "Underdark" set is coming out next month, right? (I personally need some more drow and kuo-toa) Posted by: File Closer on September 10, 2005 05:45 AM
Damn! This is what I get for being old and going to bed early! Micheal, you know I eventually figured it out although your schtick had me going in the beginning. Posted by: BrewFan on September 10, 2005 07:36 AM
The part about all the warnings and Cedarford's not heeding them? Reminded me a bit of Saddam and the UN--until GWB. Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom on September 10, 2005 07:58 AM
Sorry, but this is the most unintentionally funny thing I've read in a while: And this site is Jew-friendly enough that I figure I'm kind of immune to charges of running an anti-Jew hate site. I think you should put a skullcap on your logo's, uh, skull to indicate that the site is "Jew-friendly". Also, you should try to be more "black-friendly" so you don't have to worry about racist comments (since being "Jew-friendly insulated you from antisemitic comments). Posted by: Bob on September 10, 2005 08:37 AM
Ya did the right thing, Ace. Kudos. Posted by: fasterplease on September 10, 2005 08:44 AM
Be warned, he'll be back. Years ago he used to post under the name "Ran" (yes, I've followed his exploits that long) and was banned from several sites, thus compelling him to change his monicker. Posted by: Billy D on September 10, 2005 09:29 AM
A long time ago I think I said that if Cedarford didn't exist, Ace would have to invent him. But that was before he got really gross. Gratuitously gross, with no redeeming quality in humor or art. Just one sick bastid. Anybody remember the Fran Drescher thread? I was surprised that wasn't worth a banning. Posted by: lauraw on September 10, 2005 09:39 AM
I'll be goddamned if I get booted from a job or refused an interview because it gets out that I'm running a "hate site." Job? Job? I don't think a job is consistent with the Ace Of Spades Lifestyle™. Next thing you know, you'll let slip that you're not actually ass-fucking JeffB. Please refrain from sharing personal details like that. Posted by: Michael on September 10, 2005 10:46 AM
Can we keep Coop? He swears a lot and talks funny. I think he's hot for Slublog though. I don't know, DBS. He's focused a lot of his rage at you and Brewfan. I thought he might be Ace for a bit, until he mentioned being a Red Sox fan. Ace doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would ever joke about something like that. Posted by: Slublog on September 10, 2005 10:47 AM
Well, dang. I go out and get laid and miss a perfectly good jock-sniffing toady thread, plus the historic banning of Cedartard. That'll learn me. Personally, I thought C's humor wore thin about 15 minutes before he showed up. And the Fran Drescher thread was spectacularly awful. In the unlikely event that he's ever worth mentioning again, I vote that any post referring to C should come with a nice portrait of Ms. Drescher, so we can all remember what Cedarford looks like in the flesh. Posted by: utron on September 10, 2005 11:28 AM
You do realize you've only freed up some extra time for him to polish his busts of Goebbels and Nathan Bedford Forrest? Posted by: Idle Hands on September 10, 2005 11:33 AM
"He's focused a lot of his rage at you and Brewfan" Two words: Bring. It.On. Posted by: BrewFan on September 10, 2005 11:42 AM
I won't miss him. His racism was too nasty to really be funny. Posted by: Andrea Harris on September 10, 2005 11:43 AM
You know what the worst part of having him around here was? People new to the site would see us piling on C and complain that we were overreacting and being mean. Posted by: lauraw on September 10, 2005 12:00 PM
I'll be goddamned if I'll allow myself to get personally or professionally damaged by running this thing. I'll be goddamned if I get booted from a job or refused an interview because it gets out that I'm running a "hate site." *** I would think you'd be covered with a simple "Views expressed in the comments do not necessarily reflect the views of the site or its owner." Posted by: Megan on September 10, 2005 12:03 PM
Megan, It doesn't work that way. Ask Charles Johnson. Posted by: ace on September 10, 2005 12:06 PM
Who's Charles Johnson? Is he the LGF guy? Posted by: Slublog on September 10, 2005 12:09 PM
Who's Charles Johnson? Is he the LGF guy? [subtly nudging Slublog and whispering] Dude, of course he's the LGF guy. First guest on Hoist the Black Flag? Sure you liste...OH shit here he comes! [with false heartiness] So Slub, how's the packing going? Just remember to pack those cheesecake pans last - they'll get you everytime! Oh, there you are Ace! Posted by: geoff on September 10, 2005 12:17 PM
[hearty voice] The packing is going GREAT! And I love Hoist the Black Flag and LGF. Posted by: Slublog on September 10, 2005 12:19 PM
now and then C would post a comment which was dry and innocuous. Or innocuous and funny. I'm still chuckling over the story about the Japanese sailors who wouldn't abandon ship without their inflatable love dolls. Posted by: Michael on September 10, 2005 12:45 PM
"I'm still chuckling over the story about the Japanese sailors who wouldn't abandon ship without their inflatable love dolls." I've always said the best humor is built on the things that mean something to us personally :) Posted by: BrewFan on September 10, 2005 12:59 PM
Any time now, Ace will admit he is Cedarford and it was all supposed to be a big huge funny that spun out of control. And he is sorry.
Posted by: Bart on September 10, 2005 01:04 PM
well Brew, they do make handy flotation devices Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 10, 2005 01:08 PM
Ace, in pulling the plug on Cedarford, did you inadvertently block all posters from AOL (i.e., if he was an AOL guy)? I can't post using my AOL browser, and the few times I've ever posted here, my comments have been innocuous, the most personal remark being, maybe, about O Willis's waistline. Posted by: Concerned in M Town on September 10, 2005 01:26 PM
Damnit... I don't know. I just banned one IP address, but it's possible that's a shared IP address on AOL? I don't know. Does anyone know? Obviously if that's the case I'll have to un-ban the address. Posted by: ace on September 10, 2005 01:28 PM
Concerned, do you have another browser you can check with? I'm sure AOL uses pooled addresses, but it feels like something else. Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 10, 2005 01:34 PM
posted using AOL browser, AOL SE 9.0 release 4184.5200 Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 10, 2005 01:36 PM
I'm going to miss Cedarford. He offered a little bit of predictability in this uncertain world. It was relaxing to read his comments, because I already had the outline in my head. Occasionally, there would be novel phrasing, or an unexpected joke, but he would not stray that far from the outline. Very soothing. Posted by: steve_in_hb on September 10, 2005 02:01 PM
Re AOL posts: Yes, I posted this and my last comment (question above) using MSN browser. Couldn't figure out what I'd done to be disallowed from commenting. It sounds like ace is is fixing this. Thanks. Posted by: Concerned in M Town on September 10, 2005 02:52 PM
Um, Michael? Next thing you know, you'll let slip that you're not actually ass-fucking JeffB. Look, I'm at law school now, a fairly prestigious one, and I really need to leave this chapter of my life behind. I'd appreciate it if we could all simply promise to speak no further about "the assfucking." I consider that stuff to have taken place in a past life. Though I will forever nurture a sad, unrequited love for Ace in the corner of my heart. Posted by: Jeff B. on September 10, 2005 06:54 PM
"Good point. Who wants to take over the part of "indefatigable loon?" Any volunteers?" Um, would pupating into full-on 24/7 aggressive Gilulani's Witnessing count? Because my plan calls for that starting *next* month. Posted by: Knemon on September 10, 2005 08:44 PM
Look, I'm at law school now, a fairly prestigious one, and I really need to leave this chapter of my life behind. OK, Jeff. When I get your resume, I promise not to hold it against you. Posted by: Michael on September 10, 2005 10:59 PM
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