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September 08, 2005
CSI Helps Criminals Get Away With CrimesIt's still one of the few shows on TV worth watching. But it comes at a price. For example, there has been an increasing use of plastic gloves by burglars... For the love of everything larcenous, a burglar who hasn't heard about fingerprints by now isn't going to be in business very long. But this is the one I've always thought was pretty clever, and I'm sad to see that criminals are finally figuring this trick out: ...and a practice reported by police in northern England in which car thieves leave cigarette butts picked up from the street inside vehicles, hoping to lay a trail of false DNA evidence. See, that's good. Real good. Even if they can place *you* at the scene of a crime, they have someone else's DNA there too which they can't explain (or, most likely, even identify, unless the DNA happens to come from someone in the system already). Which, if the case against you is just circumstantial plus DNA, may very well constitute reasonable doubt. Still, they're getting better at placing you at the scene, even if you touch nothing at all: However, the magazine warned that outwitting the scientists was increasingly hard.
posted by Ace at 04:30 PM
CommentsThe show is so entertaining it would be worth losing a car thief or two. Posted by: the daily missive on September 8, 2005 04:46 PM
Nobody's going to do a DNA test on a car theft case, not around here. Too much expense for too little effect. Trust me. Posted by: Harry Callahan on September 8, 2005 05:08 PM
In FL you used to need about 11 car theft convictions before you went to the pokey. Then the law changed a few years ago and now its down to only 8 convictions before you earn a stretch. The system doesn't care about car thefts anymore. When I was a young whelp growing up in upstate NY in the 60's, a single car theft conviction would send you up for about 7 years. Posted by: Tony on September 8, 2005 05:12 PM
It's not THAT bad in my state, but in my experience most car thieves are busted behind the wheel, or running from said vehicle. Or they simply get stupid in custody and confess. Or all of the above. Posted by: Harry Callahan on September 8, 2005 05:16 PM
When my car was broken into (radio theft) they didn't even send a cop. They just took my statement and told me to call the insurance company. The thief even left his fucking screwdriver in my car that he had used to pop the lock. Posted by: lauraw on September 8, 2005 05:22 PM
When my kid's car was busted into right after Christmas the cops actually helped me figure out how to recover what they stole (canvas bag in front seat, looked like a purse.. no valuables but a gift and some stuff that had sentimental value from two friends).. they said "if it wasn't anything they wanted, they probably tossed it within a mile of your house. I drove back up the road that has no houses on it - just woods (I would have left the scene this way), looked on the left side of the road... and found the bag and the gifts within 15 feet of the road. But I wanted to use some DNA evidence bad! Posted by: CSI in Texas on September 8, 2005 05:28 PM
A "sterile room"? That's like asking someone to go play in mud, then telling them to go into a pristinely white painted room, and you can "magically" tell where they went. Asininity ftw. Posted by: fat kid on September 8, 2005 05:40 PM
When my crappy, worthless car stereo was stolen some years ago, I went straight to my local automotive store for a replacement. I complained to the spotty kid behind the counter that I didn't so much mind losing the radio, but I hated that the console got smashed up. He rolled his eyes at me with complete disgust and said, "well, how did you expect him to get it out of there?" That was the same store where, many years before that, a different spotty kid gave me a lecture on the relative merits of various bicycle locks based on how quickly he and his mates steal bikes which use that type. I was, of course, buying a bicycle lock because my bike had just been stolen. One of these days, I'm going to do us all a favor and cut loose with the BFG in that store. Posted by: S. Weasel on September 8, 2005 05:59 PM
"I'm going to do us all a favor and cut loose with the BFG in that store." You and the Big Friendly Giant are going to crack some skulls? Why not get Willy Wonka to hold them while Matilda pistol whips them. James can swing round in his Giant Peach as the getaway driver. Head off home and you can all get smashed out of your heads with George's Marvelous Medicine. /Roald Dahl Posted by: Ring on September 8, 2005 06:13 PM
I think a month or two in a coma would work wonders on that clerk's attitude. A retired NYDP detective, turned author, I used to hang out with always used to say - "nothing hurts like pain". Posted by: Tony on September 8, 2005 06:43 PM
I guess that's another reason to quit smoking... Posted by: ldw on September 8, 2005 08:22 PM
They find dna or prints in a GTA, it only proves that he was in the car. He can easily say, some dude gave me a ride or some dude lent me his car to run down to the liquor store, etc. For a car burg, no dna, but I have seen prints done. The victim was connected. Oh, wait. Someone did steal my car and they did prints. But the guy had a masterkey and was stealing the same make and model of car and dumbing it in the place of where he stole the next one. There, you have an m.o. Posted by: on September 8, 2005 08:23 PM
When I was a young whelp growing up in upstate NY Tony, where? I grew up in Buffalo, indisputably the armpit of North America. Posted by: Michael on September 8, 2005 09:47 PM
Buffalo. The armpit of North America. Michael. I'm not saying I know anything about Buffalo other than its cold and snowy in Winter. It's like you're calling George Michael the biggest queen of all time while Ru Paul is blowing you. Heh. Posted by: lauraw on September 8, 2005 10:12 PM
Tony, where? I grew up in Buffalo, indisputably the armpit of North America. *snort* Piker - I grew up east of Troy - galactically recognized as the flatulent rectum of the universe. It is criminal what a bunch of democrats have done in the last 30 years to a once respectable small city. My only involvment in Troy these days is to own 60 acres of toxic waste site (Rove would be proud!) that used to be the city incinerator site. Alas, the site is only an inactive class-3 site rather than something really cool like the StringFellow acid pits. Posted by: Tony on September 9, 2005 04:21 AM
I always considered the Newark area to be the armpit of America (and found the other one in Indiana), but that just goes to show my experiences are limited. Posted by: meep on September 9, 2005 05:45 AM
Ace, all the 'reasonable doubt' in the world won't help you when the police find your Lucky Bag O' Teeth. I know you have an emotional attachment and all, but that crap is evidence. Posted by: Slublog on September 9, 2005 11:04 AM
CSI that stands for Crinimals Support Institutute dont it? Posted by: killdeer on September 10, 2005 04:25 PM
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