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September 06, 2005
Governess Blanco: Bush Begged Me For Mandatory Evacuation Of CityFrom an AP story one day before Katrina hit. Down the memory hole. There are, after all, more important stories, like how Bush was so passive and disengaged from the coming tragedy. And what about all those buses left wheelwell deep in floodwater? Junkyard Blog dubs them "The Ray Nagin Memorial Motor Pool." Punny because it's true. Thanks to the Blogometer, which has a veritable cornucopia of left/right finger pointing. posted by Ace at 03:31 PM
CommentsFrom what I hear Blanco did not want to hand control over to the Fed's since "that would be, like, martial law". Posted by: the daily missive on September 6, 2005 03:39 PM
Punnier still, a better name for the unused school buses has already been floated: Nagin's Navy. Posted by: Warthog on September 6, 2005 03:53 PM
Let's start an impeach Blanco movement! Does LA have an impeachment provision? Posted by: Iblis on September 6, 2005 03:54 PM
Warthog: Naah, the "Motor Pool" one has the pun thing going for it. Posted by: cirby on September 6, 2005 04:07 PM
Speaking of Teddy K, anyone making bets on how long he can hold out before publicly accusing Bush of leaving New Orleans to drown? It would be his first such ill-conceived utterance. Posted by: epobirs on September 6, 2005 04:11 PM
The quote of the day is from uber-progressive/liberal Bob Somerby at The Daily Howler: But alas! We learned a sad fact from Katrina last week. Despite all the excited talk about the way we’re "reality based," our liberal elites are increasingly vacuous--empty, stupid, dim and shrill, committed to loud, self-satisfied ranting and too inept--too self-involved--to traffic in trivial things like facts. What are the facts about last week’s reaction? Was FEMA’s reaction historically slow? We would guess that review of these facts would tend to promote progressive interests. But we’ve yet to see any real attempt to review past federal reaction to storms. Loud-mouthed liberals are calling folk names, something we simply love to do (it feels very good). But the facts are hard to find, about this and many other topics. Posted by: Hubris on September 6, 2005 04:13 PM
Oops, here's the link. Posted by: Hubris on September 6, 2005 04:14 PM
Breaking: Al-Reuters (12:41 pm) sez "Democrats so far have been slow to criticize" Bush's handling of Katrina! WTF? Posted by: quiggs on September 6, 2005 04:30 PM
you know, for a guy who just loves to tell everybody how goddam smart he is, and how stupid his liberal pals are for repeating dumb talking points, you'd think he would try to avoid repeating things like "while Bush lounged on vacation in Crawford". Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 6, 2005 04:31 PM
Somersby I meant. Posted by: Dave in T on September 6, 2005 04:32 PM
Al-Reuters update: This seems like a good set-up for a Scrappleface-type piece: "Top officals of the MSM today slammed Democratic party leaders for their slow response to the administration's mishandling of hurricane Katrina. Said one high-ranking journalist, 'This is a pathetic case of too little too late. Party leaders have known for many days that Katrina would eventually hit land somewhere, and should have prepared dozens of slanderous and racially-inflammatory press releases well in advance of the event. Instead, the PR response has largely been left to lower-level officials such as Sharpton, Jackson, Penn, and [insert other notorious moonbats].' Other critics have noted that the resulting PR response has been inept and, at times, incoherent, and may have done more harm than good . . ."
Posted by: quiggs on September 6, 2005 04:44 PM
…as authorities braced for the horrors the receding water is certain to reveal. "It's going to be awful and it's going to wake the nation up again," the mayor warned.
Thanks…but I’m already on my third cup. Posted by: The Ugly American on September 6, 2005 05:07 PM
You know, I keep thinking of the weather girl at Fox, who kept saying "this is going to be bad, very bad." I remember her using the word "doom" at one point. I thought to myself, if I was where this storm was heading and listening to her, I would have been long gone. I thought that it couldn't possibly be as bad as all that if some people were staying. Turns out the weather girl knew exactly what she was talking about. Posted by: Rightwingsparkle on September 6, 2005 05:22 PM
Somebody has to say it: After reading all these stories about cops deserting and looting, citizens shooting at rescue helicopters, and those two hundred unused buses, am I the only one who no longer gives a shit about New Orleans? Posted by: Andrew on September 6, 2005 05:30 PM
Andrew, I couldn't say, but I still give a shit about them. That brush doesn't carry enough paint to cover a half a million people, at least not to me it doesn't. Sure, the inept preparation and execution is maddening. Heartbreaking really, and we haven't even begun to count the dead. But it doesn't make me quit caring. Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 6, 2005 05:59 PM
What exactly is the point of this? Bush recommended evacuation on the 28th and that is the day Nagin ordered the evacuation. Is this supposed to prove that he really did a good job, recommending evacuation to a city about to be hit with a category 5 hurricane? What the hell??? Posted by: on September 6, 2005 06:16 PM
What the hell??? *Sigh* You know, the trolls really aren't that interesting anymore. Posted by: Slublog on September 6, 2005 06:22 PM
Is this supposed to prove that he really did a good job, recommending evacuation to a city about to be hit with a category 5 hurricane? It was the best advice given in this whole g*ddamn mess. Too bad the idiots didn't heed him. Posted by: on September 6, 2005 06:30 PM
Watching the developing 'political drama' makes me wonder when we'll see the first instances of Liberal Head-Splodey. I hope soon. Posted by: Chaos Overlord on September 6, 2005 06:32 PM
First, it was the city had to be razed, never to exist again. Then it was it would take 8 months to drain it. Later, it was 80 days. Now, I hear 30 days. All good news. I just the Chicken Littles would have kept their mouths shut early on. Posted by: on September 6, 2005 06:33 PM
That was meant to read: I just wish the Chicken Littles would have kept their mouths shut early on. Posted by: on September 6, 2005 06:35 PM
I'll keep saying it: All these attacks on Bush are going to backfire on the left. It just makes them look petty and vindictive. Especially as more reports come out about the total incompetence of the LA. and N.O. governments. The images of the Nagin Memorial Motor Pool and the NOPD (ha No PD) looters is going to stand in stark contrast to the actions of the Military\Fed relief-rescue-response. Anyone see Haley Barbour cry on National Television like a pussy? Posted by: Iblis on September 6, 2005 06:46 PM
Anyone see Haley Barbour cry on National Television like a pussy? Only democrats are allowed to cry on TV and not be called pussy's. Posted by: Tony on September 6, 2005 06:51 PM
Only democrats are allowed to cry on TV and not be called pussy's Missed that memo. My bad. Posted by: Iblis on September 6, 2005 06:53 PM
It was the best advice given in this whole g*ddamn mess. Too bad the idiots didn't heed him. You are a dumb ass. The mandatory evacuation order was issued that very same day. Posted by: on September 6, 2005 06:54 PM
Who's the dumb ass? Nagin said they "should" evacuate, that's not the same as must evacuate, and it's certainly not any different from what's been said during previous hurricanes. Nagin still didn't follow the city's evacuation plan. That could be criminal negligence if they start having hearings over this clusterfuck. Spin it any way you want, the results will be the same. Nagin and Blanco are going to get hammered when the dust finally settles. Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on September 6, 2005 07:04 PM
You are a dumb ass. The mandatory evacuation order was issued that very same day. He called for an evacuation, not an evacuation order. That means he wanted the officials to actually do something, not just say 'you better get out.' Posted by: Slublog on September 6, 2005 07:04 PM
I've always liked nautical tales, and tales of exploration in remote, hostile lands - real and fanciful, because they can give you - in their splendid and sometimes dangerous isolation from the rest of mankind - a window into how the larger world works from how society functions in their microcosm. Moby Dick would never have worked for what Melville intended if it was set in Liverpool and the quest was financing a railroad or finding a quartet of musicians, for example. Outside fictional sea and exploration tales, there is the true tale of riveting battle against death, waged against a remorseless foe with no outside help. Sometimes lost - "The Perfect Storm", sometimes won - the Shackleton Expedition. Sometimes death is only partially cheated, but those dying to save others carry honor and respect forevermore. "A Tale of Two Hurricanes" talks of the heroism onboard the SS Central America, crippled, sinking in a hurricane in 1857, contrasted with the New Orleans mobs. It's author, Rocco DiPippo, saw in the behavior of the ships crew and passengers the nature of America's growing greatness as a nation, and by implication in the creation of an amoral dependent class as shown in New Orleans - possibly it's future fall. http://frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp? ID=19383 Even as the media and Democratic party liberals obsess that they think Katrina problems all boil down to a "failure to deliver needed government services". Best Regards, Chris Ford Musing Postscript: Media pundits and ethnic spokespersons decide in 2006 investigate the SS Central America "Failure". "It is clear that this loss was related to unrestricted whaling" Posted by: Cedarford on September 6, 2005 07:10 PM
Did somebody take a dump in here? Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on September 6, 2005 07:12 PM
Fox is reporting the SuperDome is structurally damaged and State Officials are saying it probably will have to be torn down. (I smell a scheme to have the taxpayers in Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Illinois have a brandy-new billion dollar SuperDomeII cost inflicted on them, vs. the "good people of New Orleans".) Posted by: Cedarford on September 6, 2005 07:16 PM
digitalbrownshirt: Sure does smell like it. Posted by: Old Coot on September 6, 2005 07:25 PM
pathetic. use google for crying out loud look at the news stories for the 28th. Nagin ordered an immediate evacuation. And wasn't because Bush said so, he had only called moments before the news conference. Posted by: on September 6, 2005 07:30 PM
When you say "ordered a mandatory evacuation," I assume, of course, that police were dispatched to load recalcitrant citizens on to free city transit and school buses which would ferry them to safety, correct? If that's not what it means, I'm not quite sure what "ordered a mandatory evacuation means." Posted by: ace on September 6, 2005 07:45 PM
I'm pretty certain that our anonymous friend doesn't know either. Mandatory involves police going dood to door and "forcing" people to leave. The fact that there's still quite a few people left in the city indicates that it was not "mandatory". Keep spinning, maybe you'll believe your own hype. Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on September 6, 2005 07:49 PM
you tell me genius. do you have some examples of properly executed mandatory evacuations you would like to hold up as a model? Posted by: on September 6, 2005 07:50 PM
Hey, no-name here doesn't seem to know the meaning of "mandatory." Yeah, brave guy, it means the police go door to door, telling everyone to get the hell out. You want an example of a mandatory evacuation that saved lives? Here ya go ya dumb shit. Fucking troll. Posted by: Andrea Harris on September 6, 2005 08:01 PM
"do you have some examples of properly executed mandatory evacuations you would like to hold up as a model?" Tsk. Tsk. Name calling lefty trolls are so bothersome. Well Mr. No Name you can google up any coastal county from North Carolina south to Key West and sometime in the last 20 years all of them have done it. There's a reason Posted by: BrewFan on September 6, 2005 08:03 PM
The barrier islands/keys in FL have been mandatory evac'd without a complete ClusterFuck™ scrum. Posted by: Tony on September 6, 2005 08:04 PM
Rest of comment lost to inadvertant use of reserved html character [D'OH]: There's a reason <100 people were killed when Andrew hit South Florida in 1992. I happen to know because I lived there then. Posted by: BrewFan on September 6, 2005 08:07 PM
A few days ago I read a blog where they said two witnesses saw a barge hit the levee. I knew if that was true, then it would be inside the break and look at the below......... I guess the MSM can't blame the COE....... Wonder who owned the barge? From Captain Quarters A Barge hit the levee........ checkout out Posted by: LuckyBogey on September 6, 2005 08:20 PM
Ha! OT: For those of you in areas that are taking in lots of refugees (looks like pretty much everywhere, including my state of CT), it couldn't hurt to put a shotgun behind the door right now, just in case you don't already have one. No offense to the good and suffering people; but that area was a large pocket of crime for a long time, and who knows how far and wide all of this will have been spread. And then we get to the wisdom of widely dispersing these folks who have been exposed to hygiene conditions we don't even see in the third world. Not that we have any other good ways of dealing with so many. Posted by: lauraw on September 6, 2005 08:45 PM
A Barge hit the levee........ I'll bet KKKarl Rove was driving it! Posted by: BrewFan on September 6, 2005 08:47 PM
The "heroic" barge driver was trying to PLUG the hole after RovesRaiders blasted it open. Posted by: Tony on September 6, 2005 08:55 PM
I'm positive that one of these days a troll will graciously admit his mistake and apologize for flinging insults at the people who corrected him. I'm also positive that today is not that day. Posted by: The Warden on September 6, 2005 09:00 PM
I'm positive flying pigs will come to my apartment bearing several bags full of gold coins. Oh wait, no I'm not. Posted by: Andrea Harris on September 6, 2005 10:03 PM
you tell me genius. do you have some examples of properly executed mandatory evacuations you would like to hold up as a model? And finally, there's this one. Any questions? Posted by: Slublog on September 6, 2005 10:09 PM
Troll? Hello? Posted by: Iblis on September 6, 2005 10:14 PM
*chirp* *chirp* Posted by: on September 6, 2005 10:15 PM
Think we scared him/her away? Posted by: Slublog on September 6, 2005 10:21 PM
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on September 6, 2005 10:25 PM
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on September 6, 2005 10:27 PM
Gene Wilder: Damn your eyes! Marty Feldman: Too late! Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 6, 2005 10:37 PM
Not to stand up for the troll, but a "mandatory" evacuation from a hurricane doesn't go straight to "the sheriff's a-comin fo' us". But (as the links provided above can attest) there's more than a little downside to not complying. I've been trying to explain the insanity in New Orleans in various comments aroud the 'sphere, and finally gave up. Just read this. Posted by: The Black Republican on September 6, 2005 10:52 PM
In Palm Beach county, the sheriff or local cops went around and made people sign what amounts to a "I'm stupid and accept responsibility for my own death" release if they refused to clear out of the mandatory evac areas. Posted by: Tony on September 7, 2005 04:34 PM
As I was evacuating and listening to the orders being given on every radio station, the officials said exactly "this is the big hurricane that we've always feared. Get your ASS out of the city". I don't know how many of you have been into New Orleans (not just Bourbon Street), but physically removing everyone who WANTED to stay was not a physical possibility. Absoulutely there was not enough done to evacuate the poor and infirm and Blanco and Nagin should hang for that, but even now there are people who refuse to leave. Finally, the shotgun remark was on the money - despite Blanco's characterization of the looters/murderers/rapists as "petty" criminals - many of these people are career criminals who lived in parts of N.O. that police refused to go. Good luck to the police forces around the country, we've grown some pretty nasty criminals down here. Posted by: Joel on September 9, 2005 12:41 PM
"Give me a better idiot. Give me a caring idiot. Give me a sensitive idiot. Just don't give me the same idiot" -- Aaron Broussard , President, Jefferson Parish Kathleen Blanco, the Governor of Louisiana is completely and solely to blame for our lack of preparedness and for mishandling the rescue and relief operations in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Governor Blanco's reckless disregard for the citizens of our state before the hurricane struck and her inexplicable actions in the days afterward can only be considered malfeasance of office. I think Mr. Broussard said it best. The state of Louisiana needs a new Governor. Specifically Governor Kathleen Blanco: Governor Blanco, you can point the finger at whoever you want. You can obfuscate the truth and deny culpability in as many press conferences as you would like. Until the day you stand before the citizens of Louisiana, admit your mistakes, and accept responsibility for your poor choices, I will not rest. Your actions cost lives, and you should be replaced. Posted by: Chuck DeWitt on September 13, 2005 09:00 PM
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