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Wait a second! Wasn't Canadian healthcare supposed to be free?Lucky for her, she has a son employed in America! You get what you pay for. Nothing. posted by Tanker at 06:58 PM
CommentsFree as in "free speech", not "free beer" - this is the new open source health care. Posted by: on August 19, 2005 07:37 PM
In this case, you don't get what you pay for. Posted by: Dave in Texas on August 19, 2005 07:38 PM
Those doing the paying never get what they pay for with govt. The 1-arm bandits in Vegas have a much better payback percentage than govt. Posted by: tony on August 19, 2005 07:58 PM
Hey guys, read their story, and make a donation will ya? It's kind of hard not to want to do so. I pitched in $50 canadian via their site: http://save.anu-vie.org Posted by: Wes on August 19, 2005 08:23 PM
"Every son needs a mother," Linda said. Jesus Christ, my teeth. Posted by: Megan on August 19, 2005 10:29 PM
Hey - someone get that Krugman-quoting troll in here. In all seriousness, the Cdn system does acutally deliver pretty good primary care (check-ups, visits to the GP, basic preventative healthcare, etc). Basically, anything you can get from your doctor or a specialist in his or her office will be fine. As soon as you have to enter a Cdn Hospital, all bets are off. No matter how good your doc (and most of them are very good) the hospital and its admin will find a way to frack you and the doc. Sometimes to death. I suggest Oh, and in BC, where I come from, anyone who earns more than nothing still has to pay "premium" to the govt for this wonderful service, in addition to the crippling tax burden. AND a lot of services still aren't covered by this "universal" healthcare, so you better hope that you have anemployer that offers supplemental insurance - for which you will also pay premiums. How great is that. See the Barbarian Invasion At my current job in the US I pay about USD $220 / month for coverage for my wife and myself. In Canada we paid USD-equivalent $110 for just the Supp Insurance plus another $60 or so to the govt in premium plus a lot more tax - and I now live in NY, a damned high-tax jurisdiction, where my income taxes are still a lot lower than in BC. And the charity hospitals for the "poor" are pretty much as bad/good as the ones to which ALL British Columbians a relegated. Posted by: holdfast on August 19, 2005 10:47 PM
Canada is a great place if you have a cold. Not so much if you have SARS. Posted by: Steve in Houston on August 20, 2005 01:24 AM
Off-topic, but I don't care. Look what Ed over at Captain's Quarters has found. Al-Watan al-Arabi (Paris) reports that two Iraqis were arrested in Germany, charged with spying for Baghdad. The arrests came in the wake of reports that Iraq was reorganizing the external branches of its intelligence service and that it had drawn up a plan to strike at US interests around the world through a network of alliances with extremist fundamentalist parties. The most serious report contained information that Iraq and Osama bin Ladin were working together. German authorities were surprised by the arrest of the two Iraqi agents and the discovery of Iraqi intelligence activities in several German cities. German authorities, acting on CIA recommendations, had been focused on monitoring the activities of Islamic groups linked to bin Ladin. They discovered the two Iraqi agents by chance and uncovered what they considered to be serious indications of cooperation between Iraq and bin Ladin. The matter was considered so important that a special team of CIA and FBI agents was sent to Germany to interrogate the two Iraqi spies. Posted by: The Warden on August 20, 2005 02:32 AM
What the HMO system in the US has made us forget is, basic healthcare isn't all that expensive. My HMO went belly up a few years back, so I bought insurance against major catastrophe and paid for the routine stuff out of pocket for a few years. It was amazing. An office visit was $60. A full blood workup $110. I easily spent more maintaining my car than my self. Now, you get hit by a bus, that's another story... Posted by: S. Weasel on August 20, 2005 06:35 AM
S. Weasel, I might be wrong, but I'll bet the cash payers are subsidized by those that have insurance. I've had friends do the cash only option with dental and their charges are about half what the insurance companies get billed. Posted by: skinbad on August 20, 2005 12:58 PM
Ace, I think you're missing the point. Under socialized medicine, everyone is equal. Isn't that great? The rich can afford to pay for healthcare if they need to, and everyone else is equally fucked. Posted by: CraigC on August 20, 2005 01:25 PM
Skinbad, I don't know if "subsidized" is the right word. Cash payers do pay a lower rate, but there's approaching zero paperwork associated with the transaction. We take up the doctor's time. People with insurance take up the office manager's time, too. And people with a government subsidy take up even more of it. Posted by: S. Weasel on August 20, 2005 02:22 PM
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Forgotten 80s Mystery Click That Sums Up the Democrat Communist Party Today
Something is wrong as I hold you near Somebody else holds your heart, yeah You turn to me with your icy tears And then it's raining, feels like it's raining
"It's f**king f**ked."
-- reportedly a genuine comment offered by a "senior Labour source" Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held. Basil the Great
"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)
No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.
Only a cult does this.
Now they've lost 84%.
Annunziata Rees-Mogg Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.
Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...
The British Patriot Wow, up to 1700-2100 seats. It's not incredible that this is happening. It's incredible that the Davos crowd is so absolutely determined to privilege Muslim "migrants" over the actual native population who elects them, no matter how loudly the natives scream that they want to be prioritized, that they will gladly self-extinguish as a party rather than simply representing the interests of their own voters. Astonishing. Remember, when they call other people "cultists" -- they are the ones so imprisoned in their social reinforcement and discipline bubbles that they will choose political death rather than dare upset the Karen Enforcement Officers of their cult. Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending. (((Dan Hodges))) Nick Lowles
STARMERGEDDON: In early returns, Reform gains 135 seats, Labour loses 90, the Fake Conservatives lose 36 (and I didn't even know they could fall any further), the Lib Dems lose 4, and the Greens gain 6. Note that the only other party gaining seats is the Greens and they're only gaining a handful of seats.
Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98. Labour projected to lose Wales -- where they've ruled for 27 years. Fulton County Georgia just discovered 400 boxes of ballots for Labour Update: REF +156, LAB -107, CON -45 Brutal: In four out of five council seats where Labour is defending, they've lost. 80%. I'm sure it's not this simple, but Reform is straight taking Labour's and the "Conservatives'" seats. They've lost almost exactly what Reform gained. If understand this right (and warning, I probably don't), all of London's council seats are up for election, and Labour might lose hugely there, as their old voters abandon them for Reform, Muslim Indenpendents, and the Greens. REF +190, LAB -134, CON -56.
Updates on the Labour collapse in council elections -- which wags are calling #Starmergeddon -- from Beege Welborne. There are about 5000 seats up for grabs, Labour is expected to lose 1,800, Reform will probably gain 1,580, up from... zero. So this would be more than that.
People claim that while Labour has adopted the Sharia Agenda to appeal to the million Muslims it allowed to migrate to the country, those voters are ditching Labour to vote for the Muslim Independent Party or the Greens. Delicious. This shadenfreude is going straight to my thighs. Oh, and if Starmer loses about as badly as expected, Labour will toss him out of a window Braveheart style and replace him. He will announce he is resigning to spend more time with his Gay Ukrainian Male Prostitutes.
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