Oh man, I can tell that the comments are going to be pure gold. Putting on a fresh pot of coffee now.

I love partisan bickering. :)

The good little democrat in me tied the little noose around his neck and jumped off the stool. He just couldn’t take it anymore.

Oh man, that is a priceless line. I am glad he sees the light. Being a strong Right Winger, I have been having doubts myself about the war, but he is right, we are there, we HAVE to see it through.

I hate seeing our men and women blown to bits, but the war they are fighting is helping the war on terror. I know that some will say we have hurt our cause because more terrorists are being recruited. Yes, to be sure that is happening, BUT more terrorists are being killed now then if we had never invaded.

I keep holding my breath for the Iraqi people to get so fed up and begin kicking terrorist ass.

Bit late, isn't he? Even if Sheehan manages to reclaim her ditch, it seems unlikely she'll be able to reclaim the media momentum.

Nothing like pissing off your own side just when it probably won't do you any good with the other side, either.

Easy on the coffee, Megan.

You know what happened last time.

I know that some will say we have hurt our cause because more terrorists are being recruited.

Remember, you can't recruit the unwilling. If a person is wired to become a terrorist, it's gonna happen. Iraq may have been the proximate cause for many of these goons, but to me, that argues that we're just flushing 'em out now and killing them in one spot, rather than having to do it later all over the place.

"Easy on the coffee, Megan. You know what happened last time."

:0

Keep Laura out of the thread!

Tease.

...wait, we're not talking about the time she made me spray my monitor?

One of the commenters over there posted this link documenting Iraq's sponsorship of terrorism. It's a must-read.

WunderKraut wrote:
I keep holding my breath for the Iraqi people to get so fed up and begin kicking terrorist ass.

You can come up for air now.

Cool Beans about the Iraqis fighting back.

I think that Rocketeer may have misunderstood my comment about the war causing terrorist recruiting to go up. You have to read the next sentence where I say that is not so bad because we get to kill more of them. I think that is one of the bigger reasons for fighting. It takes the fight over there and keeps it away from our civilians. Besides our boys have cool weapons!

the poll question "do you approve of the way President Bush is conducting the war"? misses a whole lot of people who support the war but don't think Bush is doing enough.

Eesh, just got done with that thread. Do the moonbats ever have anything other than "ENLIST ENLIST ENLIST?" Someone should post this link on Scott's site... maybe he could make it part of the banner or something, I don't know.

WunderKraut,

I am not trying to be obnoxious here, but I have a question: Were all these people who are being "pushed" into becoming terrorists by our presence in Iraq just sitting around arranging flowers before? I just don't buy it.

I can't see someone saying, "well I was going to attend college and find a nice girl to settle down with and have a family, but since Bush invaded Iraq, I'm going to go blow myself to pieces and take some infidels with me."

It streches the bounds of credibility a little, don't you think?

No, WunderKraut, I think you misunderstand our intentions in fighting this war.

If we (the U.S.) didn't have to kill one person to effectively eliminate the threat of Islamofascism, we would have never gone to war.

Look at what we tolerate here in our own borders. The Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis, and most any other type of hate group you can think of. Even though some people would think it would be fun to kill every single one of these hatemongers, we don't do it.

Why? Because it's wrong to kill people just for thinking a certain way, even if that way is hateful. Only their actions count. The hateful groups mentioned above aren't currently a credible threat to us, because we keep them under surveillance and punish them severely if they ever do pose a threat.

If the Muslim terrorist groups were big-talking but ineffective hate groups, we could and would co-exist with them. But they're not. And so we won't.

Log,

Running an Islamic florist is SERIOUS BUSINESS...

Oddly enough I sort of agree with WK.

LCR asked: "Were all these people who are being "pushed" into becoming terrorists by our presence in Iraq just sitting around arranging flowers before?"

Nah - probably going to "Death to the Great Satan" rallies and burning the US flag. But possibly a fair-sized segment of them wasn't terribly motivated to do much beyond set flame to cloth and shout "derka derka mohammed jihad."

"I can't see someone saying, "well I was going to attend college"

"- to memorize the Koran and learn how to call for infidel killing more loudly than the other guys -"

"and find a nice girl to settle down with"

"- to beat, whip, rape, and possibly mutilate and/or murder if she were raped by anyone else, or if she spoke to or looked at anyone else for that matter -"

"and have a family"

"- though most baby girls would, of course, be buried alive because the family would be dishonored and the mother would be whipped again, regardless of whether or not she already had been that day -"

"but since Bush invaded Iraq, I'm going to go blow myself to pieces and take some infidels with me."

"- or at least give it my best shot, which means there's a high probability of a United States Marine shooting me in the head before I can do any damage at all, because I'm a dumb Islamoretard shithead."

Hey, this works out all right. :)

I'm sorry if I was harsh, WunderKraut. Sometimes we get sneaky trolls in here who make "straw men" out of conservative positions by exaggerating them.

...y'know Sue, on the basis of that, you'd think Ace would've banned me long ago.

[pre-emptively firing a leftover nuke at the peanut gallery]

I am no Lefty troll. Go see my site for my posts on Israel today.

I have always believed in our cause. You guys are right in saying that the war probably just gave them an excuse to blow themselves up, but probably they would have done so anyway. That is why I said some people.

Fighting this war is the right thing to do. It is the right thing for the Iraqi people and it is the right thing for the War on Terror. If we leave before we are done, then we are back to where we were before 9/11 when our enemy thought we were weak.

I hate that I gave the impression that I think the war is wrong. Again, my comment was meant say that even if more terrorists are recruited, that at least we get to kill them! Without the war they would have still joined the terrorists and would be lurking in the shadows. At least we have a venue to kill them before they get here.

I hate that I gave the impression that I think the war is wrong.

No, sweetie, you came out so gung ho on it that I figured you were making fun of us.

After I visited your website, I saw you were sincere and I apologized.

:)

Sue,

Ok, great :-) Sometimes I write a comment and after reading it and seeing how others took it, I wish I could take it back or revise it.

I got a little defensive, sorry. Long day and week, plus I have this terrible patch of poison ivy on my right arm....no seriously....it is bad....My surveyors tell me to put gas or bleach on it.....

Stay tuned to see if WunderKraut lives through the weekend.

WunderKraut, now I owe you clarification and a bit of an apology - I wasn't actually disagreeing with you, just trying to reinforce what you were saying. It's just that so often, I hear war opponents claim, directly or indirectly, that our actions are making terrorists out of folks that, absent a US presence, would be kite-flying puppy-huggers brimming with kumbayah. It ain't true, you know it, I know you know it, and I was just trying to clarify that further.

"My surveyors tell me to put gas or bleach on it"

Proceed with caution! There's probably a good reason they're surveyors and not doctors :)

P.S. - On the poison ivy, get some plug tobacco from the drugstore, put a chunk in a washcloth, wet it, mash it, and rub the affected area down with it every couple of hours. It works, I swear.

P.P.S. - I'm not even a surveyor, much less a doctor, so factor that into your decision as to whether or not to follow my advice.

Duly noted :-)

"the poll question "do you approve of the way President Bush is conducting the war"? misses a whole lot of people who support the war but don't think Bush is doing enough."

This is true - it completely ignores the "kill'em all and let god sort'em out" somewhere to the right of Ghengis Kahn crowd".

WK, I'm pretty allergic to the stuff (have reacted to smoke from firewood that had poison ivy growing on it)..

Go see your doc or a PA and let him prescribe prednisone - or a similar oral steroid. Knocks it back fast.

it’s time for all of America to stand together, put on the big boy pants, and get through the next few years.

That's golden.

Go out and cut some jewelweed and press the juice from the stem. Apply to poison ivy rash.

Stings a bit at first but it does help dry it out.

Oh, shoot. I saw the title and assumed the article was about Republican senator Chuck Hagel saying Bush should've met with the woman and posted accordingly.

Wow. First time I've ever said anything stupid on the internet.

What's jewelweed? Does it grow in the cracks in the parking lot at Zales?

I thought "jewelweed" was just a fancy-pants word for pot.

This was the best line I've seen in addressing the chickenhawk issue. From a commenter on Scott Randolph's post. Actually it's in a post above the linked one.

I’m troubled by what I read on some of the above posts. People saying things like “shut up and enlist if you love this war” etc, etc. Those people are stupid. To equate supporting something as being legitimate only if you’re doing that something is not a standard anybody needs to live up to. Support abortion or gay rights? Ever had an abortion/are you gay? No? Then shut up, get an abortion/a boyfriend you hypocrite. Sounds stupid, doesn’t it. Because it is.”

Me: Do you support Gay Rights?
He: Yes I do. Strongly.
Me: (unzipping my pants) Then try this.
He: I support gay rights-I don't do gay sex.
Me: AHAAA-a Chickencocksucker.

Tom Scott, I reserve the right to steal that "chickencocksucker" argument on numerous future occasions. Nicely done.

Wunder,

No misunderstanding by me. I am totally picking up on where you are coming from. I think your support for TGWOT and for Isreal's self-defense are great.

I just have a real hard time believing our pre-emptive war is causing terrorism, that's all. Good work on your blog, BTW.

Cindy Sheehan is not a strategy. Once again the Dems confuse attacking Bush with presenting an alternate strategy. When I see her on TV, all I can think is that I have absolutely nothing in common with this woman.

Once again the Dems confuse attacking Bush with presenting an alternate strategy

Shhhh... we don't want them to realize this.

oooooooh, lookee. bloggy mcblogblog decided to change his mind. what a remarkable sea change, that. pull up the tent stakes, folks. no, on second thought, leave the tent stakes, the porta-potties, the fallen soldier memorials, etc. -- the larry northern volunteer militia will be by shortly to clean up.

volunteers can apply below.

Worthy of note: Matt "moonbat" Lauer gets slamdunked.

http://newsbusters.org/media/TodaySoldier.wmv

That is an awesome video. LOL
Wish it were longer.

I have yet to see any moonbat cry "Clinton lied. Soldiers died." for any of his nefarious military excursions when trying to get attention turned away from Monica, the stained dress and nasty cigar. Not that it's surprising to see a double standard from the leftists. All stripes of moonbat/leftist/socialist/communist/moderate/stupid people cling to the two-standard reference of morality.

carlos, when ya got nothing, ya drag clinton into it. well, clinton -- the best republican president ever -- is hanging out with 41, trading wisecracks about 43.

if ya wanna compare sucky past presidents to 43, start with nixon, then hoover, coolidge and truman.

then go wash your twat. i can smell ya from here.

dave.:

You are a quality troll -- please keep visiting. I personally agree that Clinton was one of the better Republican presidents.

I mean, Slick Willy earned my respect when he took on the unions and got NAFTA passed. Let's be honest, that took guts.

You, dave., can also earn my respect if you drop to your knees and give me a Monica.

Clinton earned my respect when he did Monica in the oval office and then peacefully brazened it out after getting caught. Teddy would have just taken her for a ride... ;->

The wussy euro politicians would have resigned when faced with a scandal of that sort.

He's a lecherous adultering scoundrel of course, but is a scoundrel who understood exactly what the public was willing to tolerate and took it right to the ragged edge.

Cindy Sheehan is dishonoring her son Casey in several ways. One way she dishonors him is by omitting what his own views on the Iraq war was and synthesizing her own personal views with his. I find it strange that she says her son was against the war in Iraq, but yet Casey Sheehen reenlisted in the army of his own volition, that just doesn’t comport with Cindy Sheehan’s statements. This is a 100 % volunteer military, there is no conscription and that begs the question as to why Casey Sheehan reenlisted in a war he opposed, if that is even true. If perhaps Casey Sheehan disagreed with certain aspects of the war in Iraq e.g..he felt maybe we needed more troops in Iraq, or more armor on humvee’s or better food for the troops etc., then that should be explained by Cindy Sheehan without the partisan hyperbole. A person can complain about particular conditions in Iraq without opposing the entire war in Iraq you know. During another interview on national television Cindy Sheehan stated that her son was killed by friendly fire, when she was pressed about that statement she then said ” well I have speculative evidence that he was killed by friendly fire.” It’s amazing that anyone could use the words speculative and evidence in the same sentence side by side and keep a straight face. Evidence substantiates an allegation, speculation is just the opposite it requires no evidence at all,to use “speculative evidence” together is a perfect example of an oxymoron. The real truth of Casey Sheehan’s death is he was killed by hostile fire in Sadr City, this was the consistent report of his death since day one, medical reports and the reports from fellow soldiers who were present at his death confirm the same fact. Casey Sheehan was a real hero of the first order, when a convoy of soldiers from his unit was attacked in Sadr City he volunteered to join a rescue force to get them out, even after his commanding Sergeant told him he didn’t have to go because he was a mechanic and not an infantryman. Casey was reported telling his officer ” I go where my chief goes.” Thats not a man who didn’t believe in his cause or his duty, thats a hero. Casey Sheehan’s family has released this statement and I quote ” We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the the expense of her son’s good name and reputation.”