You know, Cindy, Paul Newman is half Jewish.

I'm sure there's something to be made of that.

You know, Cindy, Paul Newman is half Jewish.

Well, that explains why I'm only half as comfortable with Butch Cassidy as I am with The Sundance Kid.

What was the deal with Ben Gazzarra in Roadhouse? Not to be stereotypical or anything, but that guy looked as out of place in that world as I do in Harlem.

Just sayin'.

What do you think would happen if Cindy and Chucky Schumer were there and there was only one TV camera?

What do you think would happen if Cindy and Chucky Schumer were there and there was only one TV camera?

Cold fusion.

#1 made it.

Dave,

Part of it was Gazzara's outfits.

9. You had something to do with Natalie Wood's drowning, too, didn't you?

Hold on, let's not dismiss Cindy Sheehan's question out of hand. Christopher Walken (2008 Stealth Candidate of the Republican Right) was on board the yacht the night Ms. Wood "accidentally drowned"... Coincidence or massive Karl Rove conspiracy? What did Natalie know?

That reminds me of a joke.

Q: What kind of wood doesn't float?

A: Yup.

Oh, no. I forgot about the upcoming books. They will have her photo on the cover looking "grieved." Any ideas for titles?

More Natalie Wood jokes:

Why didn't Natalie take a shower on the boat?

She prefers to wash up on shore.

Ok, no more...sorry....had to tell it.

Don't you know it is all the JOOOOOS fault for everything. They sure do get around.

,Any ideas for titles?

Speaking of titles, Jerome and Markos have titled their forthcoming book 'Donkey Fall' ....

... no, really - out of the nearly infinite number of ways you could combine letters into words and words into book titles, they've come up with 'Donkey Fall'

Well played, Karl ... well played, indeed.

Donkey Fuck.

Donkey Hoetey

Duh, some budy say Cindy Sheehan was a racist...duh...me write unwitty jokes...duh me do my mother in the can...

Possible Titles

"How I Brody Slapped Bush by St. Cindy"
"How a woman with a schnoz planes could land on stood up to the President"
"From mother to martyr, a liberal success story"
"How the JOOOOOS killed my son"
"Defiance in the Desert: A profile in sacrifice"
"Whoring for Babylon: Exploiting personal tragedy for political gain"

FWIW, I agree with Andrea. (Shock and awe!) Cindy Sheehan is a mediawhore slut who deserves zero sympathy; only every single scrap of contempt any decent American can muster.

Later in the thread linked above I said:

"To hell with this evil bitch. Plenty of people have seen friends and family die since the Moslems declared war on us. We haven't all decided to commit treason against our country as a result. "

And that's all I'll ever have to say about Cindy.

I can't agree that she's committing treason.

That implies some sort of rational thought in her mental processes.

Harry Potter and the Neocon Rethuglican Zionist Conspiracy

(Scratching head.) Megan, I don't see my name linked to anything on that forum. (Unless you mean another Andrea one I forgot to have killed; in that case ignore this comment.)

Argh. The evil live preview showed the "strikeout" tag working on the phrase "one I forgot to have killed", but it doesn't show in the actual uploaded comment thus rendering my clever "there can be only one (Andrea)" joke an incoherent and possibly psychotic mess. Internet 40, Andrea love.

Greetings from Oceania

I can't tell if Cindy Sheehan's rants here are a parody or not, nor do I have the time or inclination to try to figure it out. They are sick, no doubt and she's doubtless turned off as many people to her cause as she ever had. She makes a beautiful poster child for the Left, if you're a conservative. I suspect she's had her Two Minutes Hate and is on her way to oblivion.

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
  
-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

As a liberal who has visited this site for my own education, I have to say that I'm shocked at the disgusting, hateful comments made regarding a woman who has given up a beloved son to this war. Have you all gone mad? Have you no decency? There are enough critics of Bush to find a target for sliming. Common decency should tell you that a woman who has lost a son gets a pass, no matter what you think of her opinions. I ask you all to take a deep breath and consider just what you are saying. We are a better society than this. We are all Americans. Please remember that Cindy Sheehan raised someone to become an alter boy, an honor student, an Eagle Scout and, finally, a Marine. You've got to admit that it takes a good Mother to do that. Try to harness your hysterical desire to protect Bush long enough to think about that.

Yep, Hannity is (and always has been) an inconsistent idiot. Which proves what else, exactly?

I believe that type of argument is commonly called "tu quoque."

"Why is Sean Hannity on the television? He's a yammering fool."

-- Andrea Harris, Ace of Spades HQ, 8/17/05

Is it me or is Bill Batten the epitome of an old maid in britches?

"Try to harness your hysterical desire to protect Bush long enough to think about that."

And so Cindy Sheehan, Michael Moore, MoveOn, et al can continue their hysterical criticism of President Bush. Why doesn't that sound like an equitable proposal?

Hey, I gave it a shot. Figured I could find one reasonable person anywhere, but what the hey. Andrea, just so you won't suffer under this particular illusion, I'm a combat veteran with 3 children who has been married for 29 years. As someone who has had to tell families their children have been killed, I would give a grieving Mother or Father a break no matter what they said or who said it for them. It's called common decency. Americans used to be rich with it. You people of course don't realize it but, you're just sick. As sick as I've ever seen in my 57 years. Well, I've had my education for the day and it's been enlightening. Thanks everybody!

Did anyone see Anderson Cooper's 360 yesterday? He specifically asked her about this:

"My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. "

and she denied saying it. Anderson said he asked ABC about it, and they said they were scrambling to find the email from which she was quoted, but couldn't find it. So I did some digging, and found this..

The paragraph from which the quote is taken is about 2/3 down. I'm thinking I should email Anderson. Whadya all think? Legit?

Bill,

Sorry, but the minute anyone, grieving parent or not, starts providing propaganda for Al-Jazeera to broadcast and the enemy to use as a recruiting tool, any pass they had to be immune from criticism gets revoked.

That unfortunate deranged woman is encouraging an increase in attacks, because when the enemy sees weakness they step up the pressure. She is making it harder for us to defeat the enemy, and ultimately helping to drag this war out longer than it would be if the nation collectively were to butch up and demonstrate some resolve -- and thus the end result will be more young men and women killed. I hope that one day she may realize this. But I doubt she will.

Until then, the audacious position of her and her backers -- the idea that she can say or do whatever she wants and cannot be criticized because of her victim status -- needs to be mocked and ridiculed as forcefully and mercilessly as possible.

Scenes I'd love to see; New York Post headline:

Mr. Cindy Sheehan: STFU AND COME HOME!

Bill,
Are you saying that Gail Sheehan's grief is so great that she should never be criticized- not even by quoting her own words back to her- but noone who disagrees with her should ever say so even in private, because that's wrong?

Since when did Gail Sheehan's right to pimp her son's corpse override my right to call her on it?

Oh, and THANKS for supporting the troops by betraying their mission, dude. The ones I've heard from really appreciate it.

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"

Because, you great blithering nit, they were killed by the enemy.

To Bill et al.,

No one is insulting Cindy Sheehan's motherhood, and no one is mocking her loss. But now she has become a liberal icon, using her motherhood and loss as some sort of gateway to the media. That is immoral, contra every decent impulse a mother should have, and dangerous for our troops.

In the normal course of affairs her unfortunate behavior would be tolerated, but since becoming an overnight celebrity and lightning rod for the moonbat left, she has moved her agenda onto the plane of public debate, and there motherhood is an insufficient cloak against criticism.

Bill Batten: Gee, I guess if you're a combat vet, we all just need to shut the fuck up and behave now. I guess nobody else has ever killed somebody for America except for Bill B. For a 57 year old, you really should grow the fuck up. I'm a vet too, that doesn't give me more rights, or less rights, than the next citizen to have an opinion. Shit, I've been to dozens of military funerals, I don't remember ever meeting a parent that behaved liked this woman. Sheehan is an embarassment. The fact that her son turned out alright I gurantee was in spite of her, not because of her.

Please remember that Cindy Sheehan raised someone to become an alter boy, an honor student, an Eagle Scout and, finally, a Marine.

BTW dumbass, if you're going to show him some respect, at least figure out which fucking branch the man served in. He was in the Army, not the Marine Corps. Your "combat" must have been a long time ago if you don't know the damned difference.

I'm a combat veteran with 3 children who has been married for 29 years.

Wow, you can serve in the military and be in "combat" and still be an asshole -- ( cough John Kerry cough) who knew.

I was trying to avoid the obvious comparison. Being compared to Kerry probably gives Bill a woody.

A very small woody.

I recently had to watch our very close friends have to bury their 23 year-old daughter, and have 80-something neighbors who still grieve for a daughter they lost 50 years ago, so I can (at least from a distance) appreciate the mourning Ms. Sheehan is enduring.

However, she's missing one critical element, IMO. Her son was an adult. He made an adult decision to enlist, and then re-enlist. As much as many parents love to remember their children as children, Casey was not a child. He made an adult decision on his career and accepted the dangers associated with that choice. President Bush didn't make Casey make that decision; he did it all by himself.

Andrea puzzled: "(Scratching head.) Megan, I don't see my name linked to anything on that forum."

Sorry, I have my thing set up to display 50 posts per page, so the post linking to your site was on the same page for me. :) Default is 20 or thereabouts, I think, so it might've been on the next page for you. Here's the direct link to the relevant post.

Does anyone know if Casey Sheehan's re-elistment happened after the start of the Iraq war? It's a small point, but really, SH's argument (in as much as she has one) seems to be a bascially neo-isolationist (Buchanan-Dean fusion) one: that the US military should only be used as a purely defensive force, only responding to direct attacks on the US by folks with proper uniforms and TOCs, etc. It's a wackadoo argument, intellectually lazy and belied by history, but an argument nonetheless. Thus, Casey joined to do just that but was misused by the Pres and sent overseas to fight for the Jooos. However, if Casey re-upped after Spring 2003, then he did so knowing full well that he would be sent to kill innocent Iraqis on a quest to get Dick Cheney more oil.

Holdfast:

All I found was that he re-upped in 2003, but even it was pre-invasion, he certainly would have known war was likely.

I had to search hard for the info and I don't remember where I found it but I believe he re-enlisted in April 2003.

The Corner seems to agree

Just shows what a ding-bat this woman really is. I mean, by then it was clear that the whole thing was nothing but a war for oil.

You and all your blogo-brethren are such f*cking ingrates for dragging this woman through the mud just because she is protesting a friggin war. Give me a break.

What exactly am I supposed to be thankful to her for? I'm thankful to her son for believing that there's something bigger than self that's worth fighting for. His mother on the other hand is a self-serving, delusional, anti-semetic cunt who's so covered in her own mud that we don't need to sling any.

Protest the war if you want. It's a free country, no thanks to people that help the enemy like your dear Cindy. Encouraging the enemy to fight is what keeps the fight alive.

No one is being cruel to Cindy Sheehan. She wants attention. She's getting it.

Wow, what a hate-fest! All a person needs to do, whether they're a greiving mother, a decorated vet, a butcher, a baker, a candle-stick maker, is oppose current administration policies and they'll get a load of the most despicable trash I've ever seen committed to print. Those currently in power can rest easy knowing there are legions of willing enablers and explainers who will jump into action, sluring anyone who dares pose a question or two. And, boy do those plutocrats need your help! We've got one poster boy who takes his name from a famous band of Nazi thugs who rampaged through neighborhoods smashing the windows of Jewish Houses and another the namesake of a person famous for subverting the American electoral process. And, I suppose these names are meaningful and illustrative of the posters' identities, hopes and asperations. So many things I find surprising on this board. It's surprising how many posters still cling to disproven allegations on who perpetrated the 9-11 attacks. It's surprising that so many of you even think you have to take up Bush's side and speak for him. It's surprising that so many of you have bought the specious argument that somehow insurgents in Iraq are encouraged by grieving Mothers stateside more than by the pure incompetence of our own leaders. And, so many of you don't seem to understand that in the military, we took an oath to protect the constitution, not the office of the presidency. To make critical comment on a purely political war, or any kind of war for that matter, is our duty as Americans. To challenge authority is in the best tradition of our country. To call some one a traitor for questioning the policies, decisions or even the legitimacy of any administration is profoundly unAmerican.

"You can support the troops but not the president"
  
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"You know, if I were a single man, I might ask that mummy out. That's a good-looking mummy"

- President William Jefferson Clinton

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
  
-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush

"This is President Clinton's war, and when he falls flat on his face, that's his problem."
  
-Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)

The Ballad of Jayne

Jayne, the man they call Jayne

He robbed from the rich
And he gave to the poor
Stood up to the man
And gave him what for
Our love for him now
Ain't hard to explain
The hero of Canton
The man they call Jayne

Our Jayne saw the mudders' backs breakin'
He saw the mudders' lament
And he saw the magistrate takin'
Every dollar and leavin' five cents
So he said "you can't do that to my people"
He said "you can't crush them under your heel"
So Jayne strapped on his hat
And in 5 seconds flat
Stole everythin' Boss Higgins had to steal

He robbed from the rich
And he gave to the poor
Stood up to the man
And gave him what for
Our love for him now
Ain't hard to explain
The hero of Canton
The man they call Jayne

Now here is what separates heroes
From common folk like you and I
The man they call Jayne
He turned 'round his plane
And let that money hit sky
He dropped it onto our houses
He dropped it into our yards
The man they called Jayne
He stole away our pain
And headed out for the stars

He robbed from the rich
And he gave to the poor
Stood up to the man
And gave him what for
Our love for him now
Ain't hard to explain
The hero of Canton
The man they call Jayne.

"These international war criminals were led by Gen. Wesley Clark ...who clicked his shiny heels for the commander-in-grief, Bill Clinton."
  
-Michael Savage

Bush-enablers: should conservative commentator Michael Savage be criticized for being a traitor? After all, when he said this we had "boots on the ground."

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarifiedrules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"
  
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

Bush-enablers: wasn't Tom Delay demoralizing the troops here? I didn't here any conservatives complaining about this at the time. What do you think? Does Tom Delay hate freedom? Does he hate America?

"I'm on the Senate Intelligence Committee, so you can trust me and believe me when I say we're running out of cruise missles. I can't tell you exactly how many we have left, for security reasons, but we're almost out of cruise missles."
  
-Senator Inhofe (R-OK )

Bush-enablers: When Republican Senator Inhofe said this in public, we had troops committed. Was he providing aid and comfort to the enemy? Was he demoralizing the troops. Come on, Bush-enablers, I didn't hear you complaining then. Maybe you can offer some complaints after the fact.

Michael Savage is an idiot.

Bush-enablers: wasn't Tom Delay demoralizing the troops here? I didn't here any conservatives complaining about this at the time. What do you think? Does Tom Delay hate freedom? Does he hate America?

To answer your questions - yes, Tom DeLay was demoralizing the troops.

I'm not sure why conservatives didn't complain about it. To be honest, I can't even remember which campaign he was talking about.

Does Tom DeLay hate freedom and America?
Yes. And I hear he really despises them commies, too.

Oh Bill, you're so full of yourself! I LOVE the way you defend Cindy Sheehan's right to her opinion while at the same time attacking all who disagree. It seems to me that Cindy wasn't as politically adamant in her views until AFTER her son gave his life. I repeat, GAVE his life. He was a grown man who made a grown man's decision. Period. And our, or at least my, opinion is based NOT on her as a grieving mother, but rather a terribly broken and misguided mother's willingness to parade her dead son's memory in such a negative light. Perhaps Casey would have preferred to be remembered more as a hero rather than as Saint Cindy's cause.

Carmen, they all "gave" their lives. The question is why? Some gave their lives under the mistaken opinion that they were fighting the people who attacked us on 9-11. Some gave their lives under the mistaken assumption that they were saving their loved ones back at home from weapons of mass destruction. But, I'd be willing to bet that if we went back a couple of years and asked young Americans if they would be willing to give their lives so that Iraq could have a new government, you'd see far fewer young people signing up. And, how about asking young people to die in order to set up an Iranian-style Islamic Republic? Would you be willing to die for that, Carmen?