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August 16, 2005

Hoist The Black Flag at 4PM Eastern


Look for Channel One at 4PM ET.

Guests: Heather MacDonald, who wrote about data-mining back when data-mining wasn't cool.

Well, I guess it still isn't technically "cool," but it's certainly a hot topic now.

She's the author of The Burden of Bad Ideas: How Modern Intellectuals Mishape Our Society, and the irrational case against using public records to find terrorists would seem to be one such bad idea.

Then we'll talk to Robert Spencer, director of JihadWatch.org, and the author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades).

A book, I should note, that the MSM seems to be studiously ignoring. Go figure.

Oh, and... Call in toll-free at

1-866-884-TALK (8255)

We won't be taking calls for Ms. MacDonald -- sadly, we only have her for ten or twelve minutes -- but we'll take a couple for Mr. Spencer.


posted by Ace at 02:50 PM
Comments



Perhaps you could discuss the mindset of the left, in how they view themselves as the intellectual elite. This from yesterday's print version of The Economist magazine, The Jock-In-Chief:
"Or look at Republican voters. If the Democrats have an impregnable lead among the country's Ph.D.s, the Republicans have a lock on the NASCAR crowd. For Democrats the main qualification for a top job is "intelligence"- hence their constant complaint that Republican presidents are too dumb for the job. But for Republicans the most important qualification is "character"- by which they mean an ability to hit balls and bang heads."
Talk about arrogant!! And just where are the facts to back any of this crap up??
This smugness, this unfounded feeling of superiority typifies the left, and could be a big part of the reason that they come up with bad ideas that mishape our society.
They know what's best for the rest of us.

Posted by: Uncle Jefe on August 16, 2005 01:21 PM

That's a pretty impressive lineup, gang. Wish I could listen.

Posted by: spongeworthy on August 16, 2005 01:27 PM

But more importantly:

Regarding the graphic, do Karol's boobs really start directly from her neck like that? I can see why you'd be reduced to a quivering lump of panic attack but such things.

Posted by: Shralp on August 16, 2005 03:18 PM

Ace,

Will Ms. MacDonald be in studio?

She's terrific.

Really.

I'm going to be jealous if you get to meet her.

Damn you.

Posted by: MeTooThen on August 16, 2005 03:51 PM

Regarding the graphic, I assumed, based on Ace's Virtual Model ( http://ace.mu.nu/archives/059308.php ) that Karol was the one with the sunglasses.

Posted by: Botec on August 16, 2005 03:59 PM

Impressive line-up, looking forward to it. And I heartily second the sentiments of "metoo" above. MacDonald is a contributing editor I think at the journal that was the flagship for the rennaisance of NYC, City Journal. Good stuff!

Posted by: slickdpdx on August 16, 2005 04:03 PM

What the heck? Is someone doing dishes in the background?

Posted by: Slublog on August 16, 2005 04:14 PM

I hear dishes/pots and pans in the background

Posted by: JFH on August 16, 2005 04:14 PM

They must be broadcasting from the kitchen closet down at the Olive Garden.

Posted by: yaminohasha on August 16, 2005 04:16 PM

Sorry about that.

Ace's balls sometimes clang together when he starts talking about privacy advocates.

Posted by: Shralp on August 16, 2005 04:18 PM

Come on, answer the phone, you bastards!!

Posted by: JFH on August 16, 2005 04:20 PM

My mistake. I meant to type "Ace's man-tits."

Posted by: Shralp on August 16, 2005 04:37 PM

What's the theme music? it's perfect.

Posted by: Man of Substance on August 16, 2005 04:43 PM

Ha! I got through!

Ace, I'm still me, with 2 "n's".

Somehow, Spencer's answer still sounds like wishful thinking to me. Still.

Posted by: Dianna on August 16, 2005 04:45 PM

I'd call if I weren't at work, but if anyone reads the comments during the show, ask Robert if he thinks the Koran needs something like a New Testament. DOes he think such a thing would help in redefining Isalm.

(Most) Christians long ago gave up on preaching the angry and vengeful God of the Old Testament in favor of God version 2.0.

Posted by: yaminohasha on August 16, 2005 04:45 PM

Heh. One might note that what they need is... um... the person who kind of spurred the New Testament update.

As a wise one once said, "Find them, kill them, and convert their leaders."

Posted by: Shralp on August 16, 2005 04:50 PM

I forgot to make Ace's day - I didn't say, "long time reader, first time caller." Sorry.

Posted by: Dianna on August 16, 2005 04:55 PM

No one's listening eh? We don't count?

Posted by: Silk on August 16, 2005 04:55 PM

So Spencer's saying that rather going from "scriptura et traditio" to "scriptura sola", Islam needs to go the other way, and someone better get a move on with the "traditio" part?

The problem is that "fundamentalism", wherever you find it, is a product of wide-spread literacy, accompanied by only a casual knowledge of history.

Sort of like not knowing that Luther nailed his 95 theses to the church door in 1517.

Posted by: Dianna on August 16, 2005 05:04 PM

Come on. I know the Protestant Reformation happened in the mid-1800's. Give me a break. It's humor.

Posted by: ace on August 16, 2005 05:17 PM

"Give me a break. It's humor."

Which humerus would you like me to break?

Posted by: Dianna on August 16, 2005 05:31 PM

The guy who's on between rush and roger hedgecock interviewed Spencer yesterday. KOGO may not be classic MSM, but it is the highest rated station in San Diego.

Posted by: Kevin on August 16, 2005 07:26 PM

Listening to the replay of the show now. Heather's been wrong on one thing so far: Poindexter most certainly did deserve to be sacked for allowing PAM to be leaked. Developing it, or at least investigating the possibility of developing it, might've been excused. Letting the press get hold of it could not.

Bye son. Update your resume and come back when you get some basic political sense in your head.

Posted by: Megan on August 17, 2005 03:23 PM

"And we're BAAAAAAAACK... hi, I'm Karol"

Okay, that got a chuckle. Oooh, Bob Spencer.

Posted by: Megan on August 17, 2005 03:29 PM

Dr Pipes shout-out! And good comeback by Spencer.

"Islam itself is not moderate."

Indeed.

Posted by: Megan on August 17, 2005 03:36 PM

Spencer: "KAH-fir"
Ace: "So these Kah-FEERs... uh, not sure how you say it..."
Spencer: "Eh. That's close enough."

Love this guy. :)

Posted by: Megan on August 17, 2005 03:53 PM

Ace, you have to have Bob Spencer back on your show. This man rocks my world.

Posted by: Megan on August 17, 2005 03:54 PM

(assuming I'm using that phrase correctly)

Posted by: Megan on August 17, 2005 03:54 PM
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