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August 01, 2005

King Fahd Dies

I've been told, frequently, that King Fahd was one of the "good guys" -- liberalizing, Western-oriented, etc. -- before succumbing to the stroke that removed him from decision-making, but this FoxNews piece makes clear that the story isn't so simple:

He assumed the throne just three years after two events in 1979 that would fuel extremism in Saudi Arabia: Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini founded the strictly religious Islamic Republic in Iran just across the Persian Gulf, and radical Muslims briefly took over the holy mosque in Mecca, proclaiming the Saudi royal family not Islamic enough to rule.

Those developments, coupled with Fahd's reputation as a former gambler and womanizer, made the liberal-leaning king move toward appeasing the powerful Saudi religious establishment, including the morals police who enforce strict social codes that oblige women to wear veils and ban men and women from mingling.

Saudi Arabia did not want Shiite Iran to be seen as more Islamic than the Sunni kingdom, birthplace of Islam. So Fahd took the title "custodian of the two holy mosques" — referring to Islam's holiest shrines at Mecca and Medina — and he poured millions of dollars into the religious establishment and into enlarging fundamentalist universities.

H/t to Blaster's Blog.


posted by Ace at 12:36 PM
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Can you see that? The little jig I'm dancing? I can't make the trip, you see, but in my mind it's on the fucker's grave. It's a fun little jig.

Posted by: James on August 1, 2005 03:44 PM

Ace, that article isn't....well, it's not complete. I'm not defending or dissing Fahd, it's just that it misses the point. In the late 60s, Nasser was kicking the Islamic Brotherhood dissidents out of Egypt, and the then king, Faisal, was pretty much forced by virtue of Saudi Arabia's standing as the center of Islam to accept these radical Islamist exiles. By and large these radicals all went into teaching and in 10 years, Saudi Arabia reaped the results with an increasingly radical population. When Bad Day at Black Rock happened, Fahd did the same thing Faisal did 10 years before--he folded, and did whatever they wanted.

Few if any of the Sauds are devout Muslims. But in over 60 years, none of them have figured out how to handle the Islamists. They all just assumed--as America and the West did as well--that once modernization came around, the populace would become more secular. That hasn't happened and *that* is the problem. If the Sauds didn't placate the Islamists, they'd have trouble with their own people. Their own people don't despise the Sauds because they are repressive and Islamist. They despise the Sauds because they are pro-American and don't give the people more rights that they would promptly use to turn Saudi Arabia into an even more anti-Western country.

As for Fahd modernizing things, I think it's more accurate to say that he spent heavily on the infrastructure. Faisal was much more liberal on women's rights and secular government than Fahd was--primarily because Fahd had much more trouble with Islamists. Genders are heavily segregated now, and I've been told that Western women have to wear burqas in public. Women wore jeans or at most a long skirt when I lived there and there was no segregation.

The article is also wrong about Fahd's influence on education, because while he was the first minister of education, it was Faisal and his wife who started public education.

But at least it got Fahd's father's name right. The New York Times couldn't manage that much.

Posted by: Cal Lanier on August 1, 2005 07:27 PM
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