Has some kind of a copycat feeling to it now doesn't it?

I followed one of the Drudge links to the Washingtonpost bombing article,

and my eye was immediately drawn to the 3 large NARAL ads putting out the screery msg. on Roberts.

The AP/Reuters wire said that one of the explosions what a detonator sans explosives. It almost feels like a politically motivated copycat, either someone trying to incite anti-Muslim sentiment, or trying to bolster Red Ken's argument for an Iraq withdrawal.

The news wire also said a Londoner had a chance to catch the would-be bomber, but got out of his way as he ran by, instead...

I've seen the copycat theory mentioned, but I think there's too little evidence at this point to simply discount the obvious.

Even if it is a copycat, why can't it just be Al Qaeda wannabes who havn't had much by way of training?

IT'S NOT A COPYCAT! THE SAME PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BOMBING 2 WEEKS AGO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TODAY'S. WAKE UP AND STOP UNDERESTIMATING THE ENEMY. PULL YOUR CHILDREN OUT OF COLLEGE AND HAVE THEM JOIN THE ARMED FORCES SO WE CAN HAVE A FIGHTING CHANCE AGAINST THE ENEMY. WE ARE SOFT AND THEY ARE PROVING IT. STOP FOOLING YOURSELVES... A DIRTY BOMB IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME.

From what little I've heard, it doesn't sound all that well planned. More like the work of copycats who think Al Qaeda is just way cool--I think "sassy" is the word of the moment.

It also sounds like this is turning into the 21st-century version of the Blitz, and I'm hoping Londoners are still made out of the same stuff they were sixty years ago. Guess we'll find out.

I'm thinking it was defective bombs. Some of the eye-witness accounts make it sound like the bombers were either surprised that the bombs went off, or were surprised to still be alive after they did go off.

Maybe this shows that with their A-team guys either dead or in Gitmo, they're falling back on B-team bomb makers.

Two of them have been arrested, so hopefully will have some more information soon.

WTF??
Its not for me to say, but IMAO that guy is totally worthy of banishment.

Ace,

If you want to know why they kill those they care about check out my post today. You can hear it from them. It's pretty scary stuff.

Looks to me like an effort to keep the scare on, not provocation. They managed to shut down the underground, and panic a lot of people.

I'd bet, here, on disruption being the purpose.

I doubt they've thought about the consequences. Or they're remembering that the Brits didn't start rounding up the Irish during the IRA's campaign back in the 80's and 90's.

This one is interesting. Btw, the person who got out of the bomber's way was a woman. They guy is listed as 6'2". Funny, but most women aren't going to fling themselves into the path of a charging guy about a foot taller than they are. I might, but I'm not exactly sane.

anonymous libelous commenter,

Warned you once, had to go through the bother of deleting your comment, which is a pain in the ass.

So, you just ignored me and posted it again.

Well, you're banned. Happy trails. Vaya con Dios.

What is it about the caps lock key that angry, venomous retards find so confusing? Rosie wouldn't post like that--she's a gentle, sensible retard. When she's using her indoor voice, anyway.

"Has some kind of a copycat feeling to it now doesn't it?"

Same thought I had. I'm wondering if these are ideologically motivated terrorists, or just nut cases.

Sorry -- last comment was me.

One thing to bear in mind is that encouraging Islamicist copycats is not only not inconsistent with al Qaeda's m.o., it's actually an *explicit* part of their doctrine.

Look up the translations of their own internal documents, and the picture is clear. Remember what al Qaeda means literally - "the Base." It was never intended to be the single central clearinghouse for all Islamofascist terror, but as a leading force, and an *inspirational* force. This sort of "copycat" has always been part of their battle plan.

By which I mean, bottom line, even if these guys turn out to be "just" copycat Johnny Jihad wannabes, that's not really cause for relief or anything.

More Muslims need to speak out -- and act -- more forcefully against this nihilist psychopathy

Moslems are far more scared of terrorist retaliation than they are of British public retaliation, or US public retaliation for that matter. And I believe that most think it a good thing that we (the public) are scared of them, and that they are secretly proud that their dedicated few can move whole nations and strike fear into the whole world.

Therefore, if we are ever to drive a wedge between the terrorists and "moderate" Moslems we can only do so by boycotting the goods and services that support them (and terrorists through their contributions). When they find that every act of terror is followed by a hard long lasting punitive slap to their own livelihoods they will begin to do something about. When faced with a choice between continued silence and going broke quickly, they will begin to speak out and to withold contributions to the same organizations that were the cause of all their financial woes: the terrorists. We must make it in their self interest to do so, instead of as it is today where the consequences of good behavior will only bring danger to them and nothing more.

THE WEST MUST BOYCOTT!!!

Boycott what 72?
Hummus? Dates? Flying carpets?

Its not like I do a lot of business with these people.

Who cares how they feel about us? The simple truth is they want to KILL US. If you don't have a problem with this, cut off your own head or blow your own brains out. But I want to live. I want my friends, neighbors and countrymen to live. I want my fellow human beings to live. So you won't kill me without a fight. And I will align myself with others who feel the same way.

"But how long will the "understanding" route take? When your enemies don't even view you with the sort of empathy they feel for a dog, how long, precisely, will it take simply to convince them that you are just as entitled to live a life free of random violence and maimings as a dog is?"
And Arabs, in general, hate dogs, so where does that put us?

I haven't discounted the idea that this was an orchestrated act by al Qaeda or "The Secret Faction of alQaeda in Europe" or whatever they're calling themselves this week.

It just seems to me that, if it were the same cell/faction as 7/7, they should have caused more damage. Same devices, explosives, maker, etc. right? This attack looks like smoke and mirrors, almost literally - smoke bombs, loud noises (one commuter equated it to a large balloon popping), detonators and fear. Lots of fear. Almost like the terrorists didn't want to actually harm large groups of people, but intimidate and frighten them. Almost like they were motivated by something else...

I know, I'm reading a lot into it, but it doesn't feel right. Kinda like arson investigations - if no one is injured but property is destroyed, the first question is: who is the benefactor?

Crap, that last one was me...

Maybe this was like the minor leaguers of terrorists, trying to jump on the bandwagon of the prior attacks. It does seem odd that that many atempts would all fail.

Why the difference? Because the Left sees that radical Islamists hate America and the West as much as they do. They mistakenly assume Islamists hate America for the same reasons the Left does, though. But the fact that Islamism is far more likely to bring down the hated American system is good enough for them to apologize for the civilian-targeted violence of terrorism.

Former Leftist terrorists like Carlos the Jackal have converted to Islam and have called all revolutionaries to do the same. British Leftist and Chomskyite Milan Rai has called for the West to do everything Bin Laden and the Islamic extremists demand, thinking that these righteous rebels only seek justice for the wrongs the horrible West has inflicted on the poor oppressed Muslim world for centuries. Doesn't seem to bother them that they're squarely on the side of the people who murdered 3000 people on 9/11.

Heard on Fox about 25 mins ago -

Only the detonator went off, BUT that was just good luck. The bomb was made of the same stuff used on 7/7.

I say it may be the B team, but it's too soon to say copycat.

Reports also say that two men have been arrested, of "Asian appearance." I think in Brit-English that could mean middle eastern.

If left-liberals want to pursue the "understanding" route with the self-made monsters of Islam, let me ask: Do you similary support the "understanding" route when dealing with gay-bashers/gay-killers, lynchers, and abortion clinic bombers?

Why the difference in approach? Why do you urge coercive action (jailing for life) for some monsters and endless compassion and leniency for others?

A while back, I went out to dinner with a friend (honestly, she is my friend, she’s just a hopeless moonbat) who told me that I was a “monster” for ordering the lamb. The same person told me that Iraq was a war we could never win because “you can’t win if you don’t respect the feelings of others.” A couple weeks ago, she was hammering me with that idiotic Amnesty International report on Gitmo. She called Donald Rumsfeld “that evil, evil man,” and I had enough. I asked her if she had ever watched the videos of Daniel Perl and Nick Berg being beheaded, or if she knew anything about the specifics of the torture methods Saddam Hussein had used, or if she’d ever read The Gulag Archipelago. Of course she hadn’t.

The answer to your question, I think, is that people on the left want to bask in their own moral superiority (similar to self-righteousness, but not identical) without going through the hard work of actually confronting evil, or the ethically tricky business of fighting it. The more you can invest trivial matters with deep significance, the bigger the boost to your self-regard. Conversely, moral equivalency is a brilliant tactic for avoiding any issue that might require real effort, or even real seriousness. The combination of the two is the ethical equivalent of Demarol, and we’ve been dosing ourselves with it for a long, long time—starting way before the Sixties. The people on the left who argue like this were probably perfectly decent kids. But they started taking hits off the ethical crack pipe and, tragically, they never grew up.

lauraw

I know of two Moslem businesses in my neighborhood, one of which I used to patronize 15 years ago, and never will again. How else do Moslems support themselves here in this country? We do more business with them than we know, and probably on purpose. But that can be found out and publicized, the mechanics of it all are very doable. The essential point here lauraw is that this really is the only way that the general public can make them feel the pinch every time there is a terrorist act. We must lean on them to the point where they begin to say, oh no, not another one, and business is down 60% already! Perhaps its time we speak out and stopped paying the Imam his 5% cut to aid the Abu Nidal children's fund.

This is probably a tad inappropriate, but where will we find the first person to posit that this was set up because the Roberts nomination didn't sufficiently distract from the most important story in the world -- Valerie Plame?

-Valerie who, now?

Heh

The more you can invest trivial matters with deep significance, the bigger the boost to your self-regard.

Well put utron.

Officers asked employees to look for a black or Asian male, 6 feet 2 inches tall, wearing a blue top with a hole in the back and wires protruding>/i>

They're Fembots!

Heard on the radio they think all four bombs failed, only the detonators went off.

"Reports also say that two men have been arrested, of "Asian appearance." I think in Brit-English that could mean middle eastern."

It generally means "Pakistani." Pakistanis are referred to as "Asian" in Britain, which I guess is technically correct, though we in the States think of "Asian" in terms of kimonos, pork chow fun, and flyin' kung-fu maneuvers.

Utron,

What I find ironic about your story is that if your friend really thought you were a monster then why would she dine with you? Likely answer: the desire to treat animals humanely is satisfying as a means to feelings moral superiority rather than a moral end in itself (which is not very rewarding in a public sense). A fairly common phenomenon I've witnessed, being a vegetarian and knowing many others.

In actuality, I derive my moral superiority from the simple fact that I realize ST:TOS is superior science fiction compared to Star Wars, and that people who think otherwise are monsters and/or simps.

hoping to provoke an additional backlash against Muslim immigrants.

What additional backlash are we speaking of? Doesn't there have to be a backlash for there to be an additional backlash? A convience store by me has a Moslem counter guy who used to seem humble and concerned when he was first hired, and later when there was a terrorist incident. Now that it has been a year and no one has said a single word about it or done anything except be nice to him, he is not just unconcerned, he has that same contemptuous fuck-you-white-pussy sort of contented truculance that blacks now have, and it's not even his fucking country!!!

And we deserve their contempt for being so spineless and impotent in the face of grave danger and insult!

"If left-liberals want to pursue the "understanding" route with the self-made monsters of Islam, let me ask: Do you similary support the "understanding" route when dealing with gay-bashers/gay-killers, lynchers, and abortion clinic bombers?

Why the difference in approach? Why do you urge coercive action (jailing for life) for some monsters and endless compassion and leniency for others?"

The answer, riffing off of Peter Paul and Mary (yugh) is:

'Where have all the fucking loser from hell Marxists gone
Gone to defending radical Islam every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

The answer my friend is not blowing in the wind
It's that the fucking moron loser from hell hate-filled Marxists will never learn
No no they'll never learn
For they believe that the enemy of their enemy is their ally

And in the meantime they can play sabotage Quisling Fifth Column games on behalf of their ally against the countries and values that they pretend to be loyal to. (See Big Media/msm for innumerable examples of this.)

The "Why they hate us" update is right on. Israel and the U.S. are the scapegoats for the misery and backwardness of states governed by Islamofascists and klepocrats. I don't think we'll make much progress until we handle the Saudis like Reagan handled the Soviets: call them on their tyrannical, theocratic bullshit, but keep the oil and diplomacy flowing. What we don't need is Bush holding hands with Crown Prince Abdullah in the rose garden.

lauraw

PS - I'd bet my next paycheck that many if not most of those Moslem owned businesses contribute to Moslem "charities" that are fronts for terrorist organizations. The idea that we are inadvertanly helping terrorists through patronizing Moslem businesses should be repulsive to anyone in this country.

Re: why they hate us ( the entire civilized world)

We're ALL Jews now.

(I've been a Jew for 55 years already. I mean, the rest of you: Welcome to the tribe.)

(Still off my meds)

In actuality, I derive my moral superiority from the simple fact that I realize ST:TOS is superior science fiction compared to Star Wars, and that people who think otherwise are monsters and/or simps.

long post with "When will they ever learn" is mine. Don't want anyone else to be blamed for it.

Well at least Blair knows where the blame lies. Somebody better clue in team Bush.

Dulce, if we're now all Jews, does that mean I have to have a little taken off the top AGAIN? I don't have much to spare.

They view us, as the Nazis did their foes -- Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, Slavs -- as subhuman, dehumanized, nonhuman, and not deserving of the normal compassion and empathy one human feels for another.

And they feel a special contempt for us because we've become so cowardly and so PC that we never do anything or dare not even say anything to them about it here in our own fucking country!

In the history of the world only the vanquished acted as subservient and frightened not to "offend" as we have all been trained to do by Liberalism. And it is only human nature to hold subservience and fear in contempt, especially if your psyche remains still rooted in 600-700 AD. For our behavior, we deserve their scorn.

We risked blood and treasure to save Muslims in Serbia; that won us no fans whatsoever.

The truth is even worse: that war was a direct result of Bill Clinton's need to "suck up all the oxygen" in the media to divert attention away from his scandals. And at the time he decided to do something about, the Christians had expelled or killed 90% of the Moslems from their country! Clinton's intervention put them all back and many Christians had to flee for their lives, leaving the country in a permanent state of siege between the two. He also bombed the Chinese embassy on purpose to divert attention away from the growing evidence in the press that he had sold nuclear warhead technology, allowed Loral corp to transfer missile technology to and sold a Boeing metal processing plant that could be used for making missles to the Communist Chinese! And now thy're threatening us with our this very same technology! We shall be living with the consequences of his crimes, his treachery, his incompetance and cowardice for a very long time to come.

Islam is the most intolerant, tyrannical, brutal and ignorant movement since the days of Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Polt Pot. If it weren't so dangerous and pathetic, it would be laughable that Liberals wonder why they hate us so, and hope that if we're nice to them that they'll leave us alone. They continue to try to pacify them and cling to the notion that if we can find the right way to please them or appease them they'll leave us alone and just go after the Isrealis, who after all stole their land from them. (This is Liberal self delusion and cowardice at its worst. Moslem hate is like the Rock of Gibraltar, unchanging and impervious to the weather or climate of public opinion and Liberals are, as always, dangerous fools and useful idiots in the cause of the brutal, the violent, the barbaric, and the treacherous.

Nathan B. - Israel and the U.S. are the scapegoats for the misery and backwardness of states governed by Islamofascists and klepocrats. I don't think we'll make much progress until we handle the Saudis like Reagan handled the Soviets: call them on their tyrannical, theocratic bullshit, but keep the oil and diplomacy flowing. What we don't need is Bush holding hands with Crown Prince Abdullah in the rose garden.

Don't separate the US from the West and modern world and say it's us & Israel. It's not two countries, especially 2 countries as different as the US and Israel are. Israel has special issues - the land thefts, water thefts, a 38-year military occupation and a century of ill-will between them and Muslims. The US has no colonial baggage, no history of thefts, and decent relations with Muslims up to about 30 years ago.

As for the Saudis, they are a mixed bag, like the Germans or Japs. They have done things in the last half century that have been incredibly valuable for US interests, other times they have hurt us. Crown Prince Abdullah happens to be one of the good guys.

Only a century of ill will between the Jews and Muslims, C?

Do tell.

I guess they used to be the best of friends before that.
You ignorant fucking douche.
Tell me about Abraham, you pissy little antisemitic child.
To other posters: I'm already sorry I broke the embargo.