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July 16, 2005

Margaret Cho Names Dog For "Chic" Terrorist

This vile terrorist-sympathizer muses:

[My new dog] Gudrun is named after the infamous Gudrun Ensslin who was the female leader of the Baader-Meinhof Gang, an art terrorist group from the 70s. Terrorism was different then. It had a chicness to it, which made it seem less like a dangerous menace and more like fashion.

Margaret Cho seems less like a comedian and more like a lunatic who has wrested a microphone away from a street-preacher.

"Art terrorism." Huh.

A while ago I wrote (on a forum) that I had always had trouble believing Batman stories where, for example, the Joker ran for mayor and nearly won. Or did win.

Ridiculous, I thought. There's no way that anyone would support a psychopathic terrorist -- and I think the Joker qualifies for that description -- for any public office, even in the comic books.

And then, after 9-11, came those who called the mass-murder of nearly 2800 innocent, unarmed civilians a work of art. And defended, or at least engaged in apologetics for, that mass-slaughter.

The Joker thought in those terms, too.

It's sick... but it's undeniably true. There are those in the world -- and they're not an insignificant minority -- who genuinely support mass-murderers.

Especially if they have a bit of "chicness" to them.

This analogy isn't as silly or glib as it might sound. Who didn't think, upon seeing the towers fall, "This can't be real... this is like some absurd comic book" or "This isn't reality, this is just a James Bond movie"?

There are some who are so shallow -- and frankly anti-human -- that they actually elevate a bit of charisma or style or theatrics above the core human value that human life shall not be viciously stolen away.

When I was younger, I thought it was crazy, a silly comic-book plot contrivance. Now that I'm older and wiser and much sicker about it all.

"Art terrorism." "Chicness." Killing people as artistic expression. Murder in the service of fashion.

How far have some sunk, and how much further is there to fall?

Thanks to the Divine Miss M, who has more on an important story I never got to, the Court of Appeals ruling that military tribunals satisfy the requirement of a "competent tribunal," overturning a liberal lower-court ruling.

Ridiculous Fiction Is Now Reality: And let's not forget something else I initially thought absurd. James Bond's arch-nemesis Ernst Stavro Blofeld was, in between acting as an Al-Qaeda-ish terrorist (save without the religious/racial motivation), a well-respected head of a charity relief agency for the aid and repatriation of political refugees.

Again, when I was younger and more innocent, I thought that was just plain dumb. Now I know better.

posted by Ace at 02:28 PM

Comments

She's not really that fat anymore. Too bad she's still stupid and unfunny.

Posted by: zetetic on July 16, 2005 02:37 PM

I think Cho wins the Karl-Heinz Stockhausen award for most inappropriate art-terrorism analogy.

Posted by: See-Dubya on July 16, 2005 03:35 PM

Eh, she's with the same crowd that wears Che Guevara t-shirts, idolizes Castro, and wishes the Soviet Union was still around. Lunatics I tell ya. Stark, raving, screaming, Neptunian moonbats.

Posted by: Enas Yorl on July 16, 2005 03:40 PM

Eh, she's with the same crowd that wears Che Guevara t-shirts, idolizes Castro, and wishes the Soviet Union was still around.

In other words, she's a Democrat.

Posted by: Mark on July 16, 2005 03:42 PM

Just as with tyrannies, you're always going to find constituents and advocates for terrorists. Just don't question their patriotism.

Cordially...

Posted by: Rick on July 16, 2005 03:52 PM

You know what? I'm fatigued. Absolutely fucking fatigued by the left. If it was their gameplan to wear my shit out with their black-is-white, soul-kiss-w/-evil as long as it makes Bush look bad embrace, they win.

I mean, once I saw them openly root against the voters in line on that Iraq election day, downplay it, desparately spin their 'this means nothing, NOTHING!" stories, I knew I was up against a more determined foe than me.

Now a lefty damns her dog after a terrorist, knowing the delicious subversion of it all can only cause her 'hip factor' to increase.

Well that's fuckin it. I don't care anymore. Just don't. Too fuckin tired w/ their daily fuckin nonsense. Evil is good. You win. Where the fuck do I turn myself in? Do I just kill myself? Is that easier for you? Whadya want?

Posted by: Ray Midge on July 16, 2005 03:52 PM

If she really wants to be leftist chic, she could change her name to Margaret Che.

Posted by: joe-6-pack on July 16, 2005 03:57 PM

If I just keep telling myself that she's just doing it for publicity then maybe I won't bust a vessle in my eye.

She's just doing it for publicity. She's just doing it for publicity. She's just doing it for publicity. She's just doing it for publicity....

Posted by: SirTechsALot on July 16, 2005 04:07 PM

totally! check out this terrorist lover!

Posted by: blue on July 16, 2005 04:14 PM

"Baader-Meinhof Gang"... Izzat the same Baader as in Ruth Baader-Ginsberg?

Posted by: Claire on July 16, 2005 05:23 PM

I'm renaming my dog Margaret, after Margaret Cho. Because she's a bitch, but in a chic sort of way.

Posted by: Michael on July 16, 2005 06:19 PM

Seattle has a _REVERED_ statue of LENIN.

This can't be repeated often enough.

Posted by: Al on July 16, 2005 09:11 PM

Im Surprised She didnt name her dog "Lunch."

Posted by: Nifty - The Long Pig on July 16, 2005 10:21 PM

I'm relieved by this news.

With all of the craziness in the world, it's good to see some things don't change.

Margaret Cho is still a frickin' idiot.

Posted by: Slublog on July 16, 2005 10:57 PM

Would it be chic for terrorists to target incredibly unfunny comedians?

Posted by: Capp on July 16, 2005 11:10 PM

I'm not fatigued anymore.

I am prepared to consider them as deadly an enemy as the jihadists.

I am done putting up with them. I am done arguing with them. They hate us as much as the goddam death-cult loving Muslims, they just haven't strapped on bombs yet.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on July 16, 2005 11:12 PM

Having spent most of my life in Seattle, and a couple of years of that very near the Lenin statue, it was always my impression that it was supposed to be communist kitsch (sp?). What I mean is, I don't think "revered" is the right word for it. Don't get me wrong - Seattle is up to it's eyeballs in the looniest of the left, but the Lenin statue is more a symptom of the "look at how silly Reagan was for thinking these guys were such a threat" brand of disingenuous historical revisionism that has become so common among soviet sympathizers.

By the way, I read a few pages of this Gudrun chick's bio at crimelibrary.com. Basically, she was a pathetic incompetent loser who failed at all of her ambitions, so she turned to violence and desctruction in the name if anti-establishment crap in order to make herself feel special.

This Cho ho really hit a couple of nerves for me - it's not bad enough that she names her dog after a terrorist. She has to name it after one nobody has ever heard of, because, you know, she's just that hip.

Okay, so I'm projecting my ignorance onto everyone else here. That's just going to have to be okay.

Posted by: Tim Higgins on July 17, 2005 12:01 AM

A little bit of online reading revealed that Cho's new beau was one of the three terrorists who committed suicide in Stammheim prison in 1977. Rumors persist that the German government ordered their secret execution, and some part of me smiles when I consider the mental image of Ensslin in her cell seeing several blank-faced uniformed men carrying a rope and figuring out what was about to happen.

Posted by: SparcVark on July 17, 2005 03:07 PM

WTF? Cho was 15 when the last of the B-M were rounded up and jailed. (those who weren't killed)

How would she know anything about the chic-ness of this organization? Probably from the clerk at the "Revolutionary T-Shirts" store.

For you young-uns .. http://www.baader-meinhof.com/index.htm

Posted by: Mike Kelly on July 18, 2005 08:16 AM

I think anyone who wastes there time over a name of a dog and then pettitly talks a bunch of shit about the dogs owner is one pathetic individual.....o wait there is more then one of you doing it...never mind you suck as a group! good job :)

Posted by: Ben on July 19, 2005 11:56 AM

What the hell? Is it a requirement that trolls have atrocious grammar and no ability to spell?

I demand a higher quality of troll!

Posted by: Slublog on July 19, 2005 11:59 AM

"pettitly"????

No entry found for pettitly.

Did you mean pettily?
Suggestions:
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Petitory
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putridly
pettitoes
tattily

Posted by: Master of None on July 19, 2005 01:31 PM

Hmmm...maybe I should test that out over on Kos, Ben.

I'll announce in the comments that I named my dog 'Reagan' and see what the gibbering moonbats say.
The difference being that they would be going apeshit about naming a pet after an honorable man.

Posted by: lauraw on July 19, 2005 01:48 PM

BULLSHIT, ACE! 2800 innocent people killed? Lots of those "people" killed were illegal immigrants, Jesus killingJews , felons, women abortionists and American hating Muslims. Not all of them were innocent, ACE. A lot of them deserved to burn up and die the way they did.

Posted by: Ben on July 19, 2005 05:59 PM

Ben, that's about the most vile thing I've read from a poster on this site, or any site.

Seriously, if that's indicative of your thought patterns, then you need medication or a good kick in the ass.

I'm thinking the latter.

Posted by: Slublog on July 19, 2005 06:03 PM

o my bad I ment pettily thanks for the correction lol

Posted by: on July 20, 2005 06:12 PM

o my bad I ment pettily thanks for the correction lol but yea I think ya'll could prolly spend your time doing somthing better then calling some one a fat asian whore or saying she supports terrorism because she named her small Chihuahua after a terrorist also i think when she said *Terrorism was different then. It had a chicness to it, which made it seem less like a dangerous menace and more like fashion.* she was being sarcastic. Also im currently listening to RENT and signing a equal rights for gays petition lol thought that might piss a few of you off

Posted by: ben on July 20, 2005 06:15 PM

I'm not fatigued anymore.

I am prepared to consider them as deadly an enemy as the jihadists.

I am done putting up with them. I am done arguing with them. They hate us as much as the goddam death-cult loving Muslims, they just haven't strapped on bombs yet.

That's great, pal. Nice work. No, really. The sooner we stop distinguishing between Al Franken and Osama bin Laden, the better.

Get a brain, moran.

Posted by: zinlord on July 21, 2005 08:46 PM

I dont hate you! I love everyone but I do hate when people get all hung up over stupid little things and catagorize people. That ain't right! lol but yea so how is everyone? lol

Posted by: Ben on July 22, 2005 03:41 AM

Margaret Cho rocks. I love her. She is the best

Posted by: ken on July 22, 2005 11:44 AM

I agree Ken, I agree.

Posted by: Ben on July 23, 2005 11:40 AM

Totally agree...she's like awesomeness...You actually have to be smart to understand her jokes, but then again...she's laughing last, she's getting paid to diss people.

Posted by: Vernon on July 24, 2005 01:37 AM

It's been nearly four years... Get your facts straight before you talk about September 11, 2001. You misinterpreted Margaret Cho's words and you're calling her a terrorist sympathizer? I lost all respect for your entry, especially after you compared her with the Joker, a comic book villain.

Posted by: Simon on July 26, 2005 02:40 AM

Yet again, the right goes nuts over a comedian who gets paid to be edgy and make you think.

The fact that an entire debate happened on this website and several others over the naming of a dog means it was either a very slow news day or you guys need some hobbies.

She's a comedian, and one of the funniest subjects is politics. She's an entertainer, and an artist. Art is about pushing limits, not decorting your home. It's about holding up all kinds of mirrors to an audience. To make them see themselves in another light, sometimes an unkind light, sometimes a joyous light, sometimes in a sympathetic light. The purpose of art is social commentary. If she hasn't made you think about your life, your government, your job, in a new way ---she hasn't done her job.
She's a patriot too. She loves her country just as much as you do. She just sees it differently. Like anybody who loves something dearly, she's crtical of it, and won't let it be less than it's full potential.

Posted by: on July 31, 2005 02:59 AM

"Also im currently listening to RENT and signing a equal rights for gays petition lol thought that might piss a few of you off"

Nah, not really.

Well, RENT isn't very good. But mostly because of the insipid lyrics that seem to have been spontaneously composed a la "Whose Line ...", the shitty music, and the oh-so-dated late nineties stage design.

Plus, you know, the hamfisted politics.

Posted by: Knemon on July 31, 2005 04:30 AM

Honestly, I'm glad the conservatives who read this are wasting their time bickering over the name of a dog. Half these posts are uninspired fat jokes, bitching about how she isn't funny, or indirect death threats to her...It's good to know the right-wing has things to occupy their time!

Posted by: Evan Lasko on August 10, 2005 10:03 PM

I love you margaret if you are reading this I am your biggest fan. Does anyone know if she has a fanclub??

Posted by: Denise on August 11, 2005 02:52 PM

Republicans Suck. Bush Sucks. Margaret Cho Rules. SUCK IT.

Posted by: Colin on August 13, 2005 03:15 PM

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