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July 13, 2005

Planet Discovered In Triple-Sun System

Cool:

newly discovered planet has bountiful sunshine, with not one, not two, but three suns glowing in its sky.

It is the first extrasolar planet found in a system with three stars. How a planet was born amidst these competing gravitational forces will be a challenge for planet formation theories.

"The environment in which this planet exists is quite spectacular," said Maciej Konacki from the California Institute of Technology. "With three suns, the sky view must be out of this world -- literally and figuratively."

The triple-star system, HD 188753, is located 149 light-years away in the constellation Cygnus. The primary star is like our Sun, weighing 1.06 solar masses. The other two stars form a tightly bound pair, which is separated from the primary by approximately the Sun-Saturn distance.

"The pair more or less acts as one star," Konacki told SPACE.com.

The combined mass of the close pair is 1.63 solar masses.

Using the 10-meter Keck I telescope in Hawaii, Konacki noticed evidence for a planet orbiting the primary star. This newfound gas giant is slightly larger than Jupiter and whirls around its central star in a 3.5-day orbit. A planet so close to its star would be very hot.

The rest of the article explains, pretty interestingly, why it's hard to explain how this planet formed. Apparently gas giants can't form except far from a sun, past a point called the "snow line."

Also, the article contains assertions by scientists that "there are almost certainly no vampires whatsoever" on the new three-sun planet.


An artist's bullshit conception of
the new planet. Note the uncanny
absence of vampires.


posted by Ace at 08:32 PM
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"Note: absolutely no vampires in view."

Damned if I'm moving, then.

Posted by: Megan on July 13, 2005 08:37 PM

How soon can we send some moonbats to populate the place? If it's a barren wasteland as described, it'll fit right in with their view of life. As a matter of fact, it'll fit right in with their ability to think at all.

Posted by: Carlos on July 13, 2005 08:49 PM

What about thetans? Because I heard from this guy named Tom that thetans are worse than vampires. Cost more to get rid of too.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on July 13, 2005 09:14 PM

So, we've finally found Tatooine? Out in the ass-end of space? Cool.

Posted by: lawhawk on July 13, 2005 10:13 PM

Actually lawhawk, binary systems are quite common, and a number of planets have been "found" orbiting around them.

This is big news because it's the first planet found around a *trinary* star system. Like Ace said, cool.

Still, one thing I haven't heard a good explanation for is how come so many of these systems found include planets incredibly close to their stars. Very few (if any) planetary systems involve planets in the so-called "habitable" zones like here at home. And, even when planets are found further out, there's still usually one of these crazy characters racing close-in around their star.

I'm wondering if all these folks are doing their math right, because otherwise, we may really be getting pretty unique.

Then again, since these systems are all found through gravitational observations, i.e. wobbling, that's made it a lot easier to find systems with big honkin' giants, much larger than even Jupiter. It may be the case that these super-giants will inevitably end up falling close in to their stars over time, thus giving us these wacky orbits.

My guess is, as our measurements improve and we can find more systems with Jupiter-size planets (and eventually smaller), we will probably find more systems laid out like ours. Or perhaps not.

Damn, the universe is a wild place, huh? I only wish I could stick around to learn a whole lot more. Damn mortality, ruins all the fun.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on July 13, 2005 10:22 PM

I don't believe a word of it. These "scientists" are just whoring for grant money.

Posted by: Ted on July 13, 2005 10:39 PM

Let's invade it.

Just think how much that will annoy Michael Moore.

Posted by: Slublog on July 13, 2005 10:47 PM

If I remember my Popular Science level astrophysics correctly, most of the planets found so far have been gas giants (because they have an easy enough size to detect gravitationally). However many of them have been found in the inner system, in complete contradiction of the established theories.

Of course the old theories were created by looking at our solar system and assuming all of the rest of creation must look the same. It seems a little myopic nowadays.

Posted by: HowardDevore on July 14, 2005 01:10 AM

Howard - yep, the easiest planets to find are large gas giants in close orbit around their suns. And that's what we've been finding.

As you say, that has led to a certain amount of re-thinking for the planet-formation theorists.

Posted by: Pixy Misa on July 14, 2005 02:11 AM

Did vin diesel crash land on this planet?

Posted by: Kevin on July 14, 2005 04:26 AM

Actually, some extra-solar planets have been found when the plane of their orbits take them in front of their parent star from our point of view. This method produces a distinct pattern of brightness dropoff, but also favors planets close to their star. It is hard to discover alien Neptunes or Plutos in this manner due to the length of time between transits.

Posted by: Kingslasher on July 14, 2005 07:06 AM

I blame Bush.

Posted by: on July 14, 2005 09:17 AM

It will take some advancing of telescope technlody before we can spot any terrestrial extrasolar planets...the gravitational forces of a star would likely pull apart any rocky planet big enough fro us to see now, so what we usually find is gas giants. There are probably millions of smaller rocky planets at more reasonable distances from their suns that we just can't see. Hopefully, that will change soon.

And yeah, this wouldn't be a planet you would want to crash land on. Bloodthirsty creatures would be the last of your worries.

Posted by: brak on July 14, 2005 09:29 AM

Damn you Kevin for beating me to the obvious Vin Diesel/Pitch Black remark.

I swear I'll get you for this. Mark my words!! *shaking fist excitedly* I'll get you!!

Posted by: Birkel on July 14, 2005 09:47 AM

Yes, but what would a pair of split-crotch panties cost there?

Posted by: Chris on July 14, 2005 10:54 AM

Isn't this all just a little too convenient? HELLO!!
KKKarl Rove is being investigated, people. All roads lead to Rove, everything is related to Rove and Rove is the cause of all effects.

In summation; I question the timing.

Posted by: lauraw on July 14, 2005 11:28 AM

I think I see....YES! It's a Unicorn!

Posted by: on July 14, 2005 12:26 PM

Well at least you're not spotting a Unicron...

Posted by: HowardDevore on July 14, 2005 01:05 PM
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