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Oh, That Liberal Media: WaPo's Terry Neal Relies on PFAW For Orin Hatch Quote; Actual Record Contradicts PFAW "Account"Must, must read. This is everything that's wrong with the mainstream LIBERAL media in one story. His actual words made it clear that he did not support filibusters at all, and he specifically said: I personally do not want to filibuster Federal judges. [President Clinton] won the election. He ought to have the right to appoint the judges he wants to. If you had liberal professors in college, you know this for a fact: Yes, you could argue with them when it comes to final exam time. And, if you present a perfectly-argued essay with very few gaps in logic and sufficiently backed up by evidence, they might even give you a good grade. But they are going to be reading your essay much, much more carefully, and little slips here and there are going to cost you. On the other hand... if you just parrot back to the professor the crap she was spouting all semester, you can turn in a rather shoddy effort and get an A. If you're principled, you may have chosen the former course. If you were me, on the other hand, you almost always chose the latter. And so it is with our *very* liberal press corps. If a conservative group had presented Terry Neal with a "quote" allegedly from Chuck Schumer displaying hypocrisy on the issue, you'd better believe Neal would have checked and re-checked that quote to make sure the conservative group had gotten it right and wasn't misrepresenting him. But when the target is Orin Hatch... well, Terry Neal just giggles with delight and, without any questioning or even a simple three-second Google search, writes "Great Job-- A+++" at the top of People For the American Way's essay. And then prints that essay up in the WaPo as his own "story." Thanks to Traffic Santa, who I'm afraid may have me on his "Naughty" list. posted by Ace at 01:51 PM
CommentsSo he's busted. PFAW has made a fool of him. Do you think he's ashamed or do you think he's snickering because only a few bloggers know PFAW tooled him? Do these people know from shame? If it were me, you couldn't pound a needle up my ass I'd be so embarassed, but I'm thinking these folks aren't wired that way. Posted by: spongeworthy on May 3, 2005 01:59 PM
i chose the latter too. not unprincipled, just smart enough to know how to play their game. Posted by: anna on May 3, 2005 02:04 PM
I agree anna, I don't think it's entirely unprincipled, especially if you know you won't get a good grade otherwise. Then it's simply practical. But who cares what Orin Hatch has to say about filibusters when there's a war going on? Perspective, people. Posted by: Jason on May 3, 2005 02:24 PM
Wait a minute here. Why is it every time a journalist fucks up, if he is liberal its some kind of conspiracy amongst the press. But when Hannity, or O'Liely get it wrong on a daily basis, the right eats it up, and tunes in for more. Liberal Media does exist, but they are by far in the minority. Posted by: JD Walsh on May 3, 2005 02:57 PM
JD, Terry Neal isn't some radio pundit spouting off the cuff and extemporaneously. He is, as he will proudly tell you, an accredited journalist. How did this quote make it through the MSM's much vaunted "multiple layers of fact-checking and editorial oversight," I wonder? Did not a single editor anywhere in the process actually fact-check the actual quote? Obviously not. Why not, JD? Because, maybe, it was too good to check? I won't even mention the possibility they DID fact-check it, DID determine the quote was erroneous, and then just ran with it anyway because it made the point the liberal reporter (and his editors) wished to make. Ooops. Guess I did mention it. But forget about that. Go back to the original question: Why did no one even think to check? Posted by: ace on May 3, 2005 03:14 PM
No need to provide links to examples, JD. We'll just take you at your word. Posted by: The Warden on May 3, 2005 03:14 PM
JD, you're the first person on this thread even to mention conspiracy. Ace drew a fairly specific parallel with the liberal bias in college, where regurgitating the professor's point of view is graded much less critically than any attempt to dispute the prof's interpretation of the facts. Most of us had experiences in school where the ideological coercion was a lot more overt, but Ace didn't push the parallel nearly that far. Possibly you think faculty For the record, I don't listen to Hannity; his stuff is a bit shrill for my tastes. Although I doubt he's ever done anything as childish as calling someone "O'Lielly." Posted by: utron on May 3, 2005 03:17 PM
If you're principled, you may have chosen the former course. If you were me, on the other hand, you almost always chose the latter. Or, if you're me, you tried to spout the same nonsense back at the professor, but you never paid attention to what he was saying, so you got a bad grade anyway. The O'Pompous Factor: An Integrity-Free Zone. JD: it's not any particular invidiousness on the part of "liberal" media that annoys most conservatives. The problem is much simpler. Most journalists happen to have liberal politics. All people, no matter what profession or creed, tend to accept uncritically ideas with which they agree, and scrutinize ideas with which they disagree. Thus, unless they are VERY CAREFUL INDEED, most reporters will (subconsciously) tend to cast their stories in a left-wing light. And it's also human nature that most people aren't VERY CAREFUL unless someone is riding their asses about it all the time. So, by criticizing liberal reporters, conservatives help maintain the balance of nature. Posted by: Pompous on May 3, 2005 03:40 PM
Let's start with a simpler point -- how about spelling Orrin Hatch's name correctly? C'mon -- the guy has only been in the Senate for decades... (Not that Hewitt did any better, mind you.) Posted by: JSinger on May 3, 2005 06:12 PM
Spelling Orrin Hatch's name incorrectly is actually also part of the story. Hugh did not spell it wrong- he quoted the story. The reporter spelled it 'Orin.' And what makes that interesting is that the leftwing group he got the misquote from makes the same spelling mistake. Think about what that means. Posted by: DeputyHeadmistress on May 4, 2005 11:11 AM
Headmistress: That's what I'd also thought at first, but rereading suggested that Hewitt hadn't noticed the error. He's subsequently corrected his post, and mentioned that he hadn't caught it. I'd initially looked at the PFAW site and decided that Neal had introduced the error, not them, but -- you're right. They spell it "Orin" in one place and "Orrin" in another. Posted by: JSinger on May 4, 2005 01:01 PM
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