On Point.

I agree, On Point. Not to "Xtreme", yet suitably lame enough.

Eh. Where's the theme song? I can't believe y'all are gonna pass on all those great names that came out. Oh well. Of the four presented "Hack & Slash" is the least sucktacular. How 'bout "A Poisonous Attitude?"

Can y'all tell Ace that 'but they use it in tech magazines!' isn't a good argument for using the phrase'The Bleeding Edge' as a show name.

Karol barely speaks Englsish and she does not understand that "Bleeding Edge" is the succcessor to "Leading Edge" and if she was capable of reading something more complex than Jackie Collins she might appreciate that.

So, fuck her, she brings a poisonous attitude to the project and I hope to never work with her again.

Greg and Enas, that's why you're fucking retards.

None of them are right, but the Bleeding Edge is the best of the lot.

I think it's just wrong of Ace to be wasting his readers' time since both Bleeding Edge and Hack &Slash have been vetoed. I think he's just mean.

One of these days, Karol is going to have to understand that she is the Robin Quivers of this show.

I hate to be all Buddy Ackerman about this, but her opinion means nothing. I have paper clips that mean more to me than her. This stapler means more to me than her.

This is what you call "creative differences" among geek retards.

They all suck.

use: Bear Attack

And you know, I'm ok with being Robin Quivers. Without her, Stern is a sad, pathetic guy with no one laughing at his jokes.

"On Point" reeks of the ballet. I advise you to veto it with extreme prejudice.

Good grief! Well I hope Karol's talking Englsish is better than Ace's typing Englsish!
I cast my vote for The Cutting Edge then.

Karol's right. Cutting Edge/Bleeding Edge is some cheesy 'what wil they think of next' cable show bout the washing machines of the future and such. Beginning to get an idea of which ones gonna be the brains behind the outfit.

Ray, you know, you can eat my ass any time you like.

If you love Karol so fuckin' much, why don't you just marry her already?

Fucker.

Ace -

My own personal gay opinion is that "The Cutting Edge" is definitely the gay-est. All I think about is that horrible ice-skating movie of the same name starring whats-his-face and whats-her-face where the only memorable quote is "Toe pick!"....

If "Hack & Slash" has been vetoed, I'd go with "On Point"....

I guess....

Bleeding Edge sounds like a slasher flick. If you want to be taken seriously, go with On Point.

no names have been vetoed, except by someone who frankly does not matter. so it's an open field, baby.

If you love Karol so fuckin' much, why don't you just marry her already?

You know what, she does have this Hope Davis thing kinda going on that I like. Do you think you could introduce... Aw, she's probably gonna be too busy carrying your sorry ass through your eXXXtreme nerdfest, anyway.

Karol, don't let him turn it into the over the air, call in D&D campaign he so wants. Fight him Karol. Fight.

Actually none of them come close to ...

Radio Active Glow in the Dark Blogworms from Outer Space !

ray, if you weren't such an incorrigible pussyhound, I'd swear you were a homo.

Cedarford told me he likes Bleeding Edge. I'm just sayin'.

ray, if you weren't such an incorrigible pussyhound, I'd swear you were a homo.

That's Puxxyhound EXXXTREME, isn't it? Homo Extreme?

Really, that X factor/Extreme idea? Top fucking notch. Radical. Scuse me now, my buds and I gotta go grab our snowboards and "Dew it!" exxtreme homo style.

Anyone who went back and looked through the whole list of 2500+ suggestions you got could probably come up with at least 500 names that suck less than these.

But what's done is done, so of these four I'll say "Hack & Slash" is the least sucky, followed by "The Cutting Edge." "The Bleeding Edge" has bleeding-heart lib associations, and thanks to Kerry I'll never be able to hear "On Point" without picturing you as Baryshnikov and Karol as Leslie Browne. Besides, on point is a solo position.

Hahahahaha. I love Ray Midge.

Why not just merge them all together to form one gianormous supername? On the Cutting Point of A Hacking, Slashing, Bleeding Edge?

what happened to "Hoist the Black Flag"? I liked that one.

My point still stands, all these names are just a bit too "X-treme" for Ace. Do not fall for the washed up hippy syndrome that Doonesbury has fallen into.

You are too lame for those already lame names. Just in a different way.

Greg, suck my cock.

Heh. I love how these comment threads inevitably turn into a pissing contest.

I like "On Point," but "Hack & Slash" is pretty good.

The only question is, which one of you is Hack and which one is Slash?

Slublog, the answer to that question is why I like "Hack & Slash"...

The Cutting Edge

Either 'Hack & Slash' or 'Bleeding Edge' are barely acceptable. The others -- gack.

Ace - you listen to utron & slublog! Please don't go for the plain vanillaiosity that is "Taking Point"!

Oh, I see Slublog likes Taking Point. Nevermind. Ignore him. Hack & Slash!

Hack and Slash. Col' got to be. No ampersand.

I like "On Point" because it has a military connotation. It's the forward position in a combat unit - the one most likely to make first contact with the enemy.

Of course, the phrase also means the ballet move where dancers are on their toes, so take that how you will.

HOIST THE BLACK FLAG!

subtle, intriguing, and a hint of sinister

HOIST THE BLACK FLAG with Karol and her sometimes lucid sidekick Ace.

Monty Haul

Ya'll tell me you've never heard of the "Bleeding Edge" in terms of business and/or marketing?

Screw 'em Ace, use it and most intellegent people will know what you're talking about.

By the way, why are you asking us to pick?

We're morons.

Ray's got a good point there.
You could keep the 'X' meme alive if you went with the gayest of the gay for a name:
'Two Hax, On (the) Edge/Point.

Eh, even that's too cool for Ace.

Bleeding Edge - meh. One cannot overstate the jumpification of that shark.
On Point - no snap, no sparkle, no zip.
Oh! How 'bout Sparkle Motion?

If your worried about the "Hack", change it to "Slash and Burn".

That's military, too, but unlike "On Point", it's ungay.

How about "Agent Orange?"

Cutting Edge is not. Better you should just call it "cliche". "Bleeding Edge" has the same problem for me that "Red Current" did, and I don't mean communism.

Say what? Jesus Christ Ace, all of those flat-out suck. Tell me this post was a joke. Please.

How about "You Make Me Crazy?"

You could always just steal the title of that new book "South Park Conservatives."

Ace is just lucky I don't whip out my e-penis right here and now. I'll tell you -- it's huge.

How about "I Don't Do this for a Living."

Slublog, Ace elevated Greg & I to "Fucking Retards". The rest of you are merely morons. Can I bring back "Tarr & Pheather"? Come ON -Built.In.Theme.Song! By the Alan Parson's Project!

And yes, I am listening to the Allah-created "Hello" and Pat O'Brien mashup. It is, without a doubt, the dirtiest thing I've ever heard in my life.

Hoist the fuckin' Black Flag already... but if you must go with one of those nancy-lad choices you list, "On Point" sucks infintesimally less than the other 3.

Enas...how does one reach the rank of "f-ing retard?" Is there an initiation ritual or something?

Ace, if you want folks to think military instead of ballet and still have the same military connotation, how about Taking Point? (Taking Point Memo, lol.)

I know you didn't ask for more ideas, but it sounds as if On Point is getting more people to think about tutus than tough guys.

Failing that, I think any of those would work.

Later,
bbeck

Yes, actually there was. It involved a lot of chanting, smoking hash from a bong made out of human skull, and of course lots of val-u-rite discount vodka. I'm a bit hazy on some of the details tho.

Hey, someone stole my name!

This whole process is starting to develop a distinct Israelis-and-Palestinians vibe. Why not just call it "The Show Which Shall Not Be Named" and be done with it already?

On Point - What is this, the world of Ballet?

The Cutting Edge - No, I get it, it's a barber shop.

The Bleeding Edge - Um, a VERY bad barber shop

Hack & Slash - So, that's what Axl Rose is doing now, who knew. Too bad Dahmer's dead, he could be the first guest.

Don't quit yer day job, or your excellent blogging, Ace. You might want to re-visit the drawing board on this one. Sorry, just one opinion.

Oops! that was me on that last one - sorry. I am an effing retard!

How about "Leading Edge"?

Doesn't sound so menstrual.

hacked and cut-up bleeding eyes...
eennuuff
arg!!

How about

Talking Back or Talk Back - as in a voice speaking counter opinion back to the MSM.

"The Show Which Shall Not Be Named"

A title that goofed on Sullivan would be so fucking sweet. "Raw Muscle Glutes with Ace and Karol," "Bareback Radio" -- the possibilities are endless.

If not, then I vote for "Let's Be Honest." Great title and only the slightest bit insidery.

HOIST THE BLACK FLAG!!!

Seriously, why did that drop out of consideration?

If you're going to do a Sully-mocking name, I think it should be "Milk Loads".

Let's Be Honest would be the best name possible.

As in, "Let's Be Honest, this whole radio gig is gonna clusterfuck so hard neither of you will be able to escape from print media for the rest of your lives."

Ha ha, "Let's Be Honest" is pretty good, too. Almost as good as "Hoist the Black Flag"...

"Let's Be Honest" would be especially good if you worked that in as a catch phrase a lot.

If you're going to do a Sully-mocking name, I think it should be "Milk Loads".

"Milky Loads" is a bit risque for a title, but I think it would work beautifully as Ace's radio name. Sample intro: "Hi, this is Karol Sokal. Welcome to 'Let's Be Honest' with me and my co-host, Milky Loads."

Oh, by the way Ace, you semi-literate moron: it's spelled "POISONOUS," not "Posionous."

If I didn't ultimately think you hapless with the English language, I would say that spelling error was purpose-built to bring me out of the woodwork to insult you.

For which I thank you.

N.B. The omission of "were" in the second-to-last sentence was entirely intentional.

And I'll also reiterate (all kidding aside) that Let's Be Honest really WOULD be a good name for the show, certainly preferable to the four you listed in your post.

Maybe "Milky Loads" could be a character who "stops by" to visit Ace and Karol on slow news days.

"So, uh, Karol -- how was your weekend?"
*ding dong*
"Oh look, everybody. It's Milky Loads."

Ray said: "Scuse me now, my buds and I gotta go grab our snowboards and "Dew it!" exxtreme homo style."

Honey, I thought my big burly muscles were enough to satisfy you... Now you want the guys?

*sniff*

Is this show going to be the type that features instantly-tiresome recurring characters?

Somehow the idea of Ace doing grudging, workmanlike character voices for "bits" makes me laugh, long and hard. Captured by convention!

Name it whatever you want, no one's gonna fucking listen anyway.

"Milky Loads" is a bit risque for a title, but I think it would work beautifully as Ace's radio name. Sample intro: "Hi, this is Karol Sokal. Welcome to 'Let's Be Honest' with me and my co-host, Milky Loads."

Not "Milky Loads", but rather "Milk Loads". As in He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named describing his "killer muscle ass that loves to milk loads with my power glutes".

OK, I'm back from throwing up.

I guess even though "Milky Loads" isn't right, it would still be a good name for a character. And it does kind of capture the basic idea. We'll call it fake but accurate.

"So, uh, Karol -- how was your weekend?"
*ding dong*
"Oh look, everybody. It's Milky Loads."

Thank heavens it's radio. I would really hate to see what that costume looks like. Something tells me - leather.

I can just see Ace & Karol's producer phoning them after the second show, and saying "look, we like the political talk, the witty and articulate banter, but really...the show needs something to sex it up. That something being clever celebrity impersonations. Can you do a good Michael Jackson, Karol?"

Sorry Lipstick honey. You were away so long, and... well, you know I get lonely. Anyway. I'd love to hear your radio name ideas for our boy Ace here. Any ideas?

I cast my vote for "Let's be honest" as well.

These "final four" contenders are gob-smackingly vile.

The name will now be "Let's Be Honest".

Gob-smackingly-vile final four: OVERRULED.

"Let's Be Honest" works fine, although "Gobsmack Radio" has a certain ring to it...

The Final Four have got to go. I'm already tired of them, and the show won't even premiere for another three weeks.

Ah, Ray, I understand...

I was in Las Vegas and missed you so much that I almost jumped on an Elvis impersonator. The female wrestling tour is a lonely life...

As for suggestions for the radio show, I'm going to have to get caught up on old posts to see what the heck it is before coming up with ideas.

See you around, Sweetie.

Somehow the idea of Ace doing grudging, workmanlike character voices for "bits" makes me laugh, long and hard.

Heh. Me too. I have this image of Karol missing the show for some reason, and Ace decides to fill the void by bringing in a guest host. Except that the "guest host" is obviously just him speaking in a lower octave or something.

"Karol can't be with us this week, so please welcome my guest co-host, 'Hoke.' "
"And hellooooo to you too, Mr. Ace!"

THEY ALL FUCKING SUCK.

Are you trying to make a maniac outta me?
From all those great ideas, these are the four you choose?

Please don't take this the wrong way, but you are fucking retarded.

Take Allah's idea. Its the simple way out of this horrifying funeral pyre of a mess you've made of what should be a simple thing.

DAMN.

I can't take credit for "Let's Be Honest." It was proposed by Turnbuckle in the Name X thread.

He also proposed "On Notice," which is pretty good too.

"Karol can't be with us this week, so please welcome my guest co-host, 'Hoke.' "
"And hellooooo to you too, Mr. Ace!"

The only thing that would make this better (read: agonizingly, career-endingly awkward) would be if "Hoke" was done in an offensive caricature of an African-American voice.

I'm thinking "Ted Danson in blackface" here, people.

Hm. I always thought Hoke had a southern accent.

-And before you tell me to blow you, Ace (since you're in flame mode), let me get my pipette.

Jeff B: ala Arrested Development? GOB's ventriloquist act!

"Wassup ma man?!?"

How about the classic "Integrity Kick". Solid. Powerful. Concise.

The expiration date on "Bleeding Edge" was about 3-4 years ago.

I don't really like "Hack and Slash", but it's the only name that doesn't sound like one of those goofy public access shows I see on local cable. I like:

Poisonous Attitude (Yeah, I stole it from the title, SFW?)

Or, to put an AI spin on Allah's suggestion:

If I'm Honest or If I'm Being Honest

Sorry, but the proposed names are just boring.

Don't wimp out and settle for one because you're tired of trying to come up with a name.

Okay, steal a movie title:

"Almost Famous"

Almost Radio

"The Uncool"

Hm. I always thought Hoke had a southern accent.

Interesting. I myself have always suspected that Hoke (or Ace, as the reality may be) came from Virginia and went to Virginia Tech as an undergrad. I say this because Hoke-Ace made that mind-bogglingly stupid call about Virginia surprisingly going for Kerry (yep, it went for him by -8 points!), and because VA Tech's school mascots are the Hokies. And Hoke's name is prolly pronounced with two syllables, to rhyme with "Malokey."

Does Ace originally hail from the boonies of rural Virginia? This might explain his retrograde conservatism!

H&S, I guess.

Don't pick "On Point" unless you want me to picture you in toe shoes.

Bloody blades theme is cool, though, thought I wouldn' mind you adding bludgeons.

Perhaps anagrams of the suggested names might give us something useful (* indicates ones that seem interesting). OK, this is rather weak, but what the hell. It seems to be a different take on the matter:

"On Point" yields...
Nip on to*
Point No*
Tip Noon

"The Cutting Edge" (dropping "the") yields...
The Cede Gutting*
The Ceding et Gut
The Iced Gent Gut
The Iced Get Tung*
The Dice Gent Gut
The Dice Get Tung
The Edict Nugget*
The Dunce Egg Tit*
The Dunce Get Git
The Duct Egg Nite
The Cud Gent Get I*
The Genic Gutted
The Cute Dig Gent
The Cunt Tied Egg*
The Cunt Tide Egg*
The Cunt Diet Egg*
The Cut End Et Gig* (future sign?)
The Cut Dig Get Ne

"The Bleeding Edge (dropping "the") yields...
The Bed Needle Gig
The Bed Edging Eel*
The Edible Den Egg*
The Edible End Egg*
The Bilged End, Gee*
The Be Edge Dingle
The Bee Gilded ENG (Electronic News Gathering)
The Beg Needle Dig
The Binge de Ledge
The Begin Edge Led
The Bile Egged End
The Bile Edged ENG*
The Big Dee Legend
The Big Ledge Need
The Nib Edge Ledge*

Arrgh. I was all distracted thinking Ace might be a Virginian.

Incomprehensible bit above is "though I wouldn't mind you adding bludgeons"

Arrgh. I was all distracted thinking Ace might be a Virginian.

Yeahp. It's an enticing thesis. He's a VA Tech Hokie!

Because Let's Be Honest: Ace never struck me as the type of guy who would've had the grades or test scores necessary to make it into UVA, in-state applicant or no.

Which has ultimately worked out for the best, unless the idea of an alter-ego named "Cavalier McGreer" appeals to you.

I assume "That's just the fucking way it is" has already been suggested...

How about:

The Ace and Karol (Who Brings A Posionous Attitude To the Project) Show

Totally OT (and not a moment too soon), Tim Blair has a link to an interesting story about circus monkeys dressed as Nazis.

"Nazi Monkey Circus." Hey, that would be a great name for a radio show! Naahh...

Utron:

What's wrong with the Bed Needle Gig? or Point No?

KC considering what's come out of all these humongously lengthy "pick-a-name" threads, I'm thinking "No Point" might be entirely appropriate.

I'm bored, and you people aren't being witty enough to entertain me. Anyone else up for the first unofficial Ace of Spades HQ chat on some online service to be determined shortly?

I've got AIM. I'm not witty, though, so forget it...

Don't push it, Slubby. AIM it is. IM me at

Cancer Marney

Anyone who wants to join us, the name is

aoshqunofficialchat001

PS. IM me or Slub if that doesn't help. Neither of us uses this much so we're not sure what y'all would need to do.

On Point makes me think of ballerinas.

gotta think big ace- the name should be chosen specifically to drive t-shirt/coffee cup/thong sales.

On Point- maybe w/a graphic of Touche Turtle it would work

The Cutting Edge. weak, I will not address.

The Bleeding Edge. terrible.

Hack & Slash. catchy, but extremely hollow.

Let's Be Honest- a nice graphic of a woodshed perhaps?

On Notice- just photoshop the "On Air" radio sign

and well, Milky Loads is just genius- can cafepress do spanksocks?

You people suck. Come voice your opinions on Stephen King's corpus so we'll have something substantial to submit to Ace tomorrow.

Erm...Megan, you're forgetting that most of us aren't losers.

Jeff... I'm over my fuckin' RDA for irony, okay?

(Love ya. Come to our chat!)

;)

So Jeff's another one of our troupe of losers tonight! Anyone else up?

Let's be honest--this is what "On Point" brings to mind:

TAPED ANNOUNCEMENT: And now, here on Bumfuggle Community College Radio Station, are Karol and Ace with "On Point".

(Cue theme music. It's "funky" production music, as dictated by the cheap-ass station to avoid paying royalties.)

ACE: Ummmm....welcome to "On Point." Hi Karol.

KAROL: Hi Ace.

ACE: Ummm...how was your wekend?

KAROL: Um, good. Yeah.

ACE: Me too. Mine too. My Bard got fourteenth level.

KAROL: Well, um, okay, we have a great show for you today...

ACE: GREAT show...

KAROL: Yeah. We've got, um, Dean Tercel Montrose of the Bumfuggle Community College Office of Multicultural Affairs...

ACE: ....Great show.

KAROL: He'll be talking about some of the, some of the programs...

ACE: ...programs.

KAROL: ...Programs, yeah, at the um Office of, um, Affairs....And later we'll talk to Women's Studies Professor Margarethe Haarbeinen with her retrospective look at bias in the ouevre of Terry Brooks' Shannara series...

ACE: Called "Our Bodies, Our Elves".

KAROL: But first this important Public Service Announcement.

ACE: This one rocks.

(Cue Ecuadorian panflutes)

ANNOUNCER: The Bumfuggle Community College Women's Center is a nurturing haven for women of all races, sexual orientations, body shapes, and backgrounds. We offer rape counseling services, rape kits, and classes on "If the guy looks at me when I bend over, is it rape or sexual harrassment?" Wednesdays we host a Catharine Mckinnon Reading Group, and Thursdays we meet to bake cookies and discuss Fried Green Tomatoes. Friday night: Lesbian Awareness meets at six PM. Saturday afternoon is Pro-Choice Women for Choice, and Sunday afternoon is Fat Girls with Body Image Problem Day. We also have a hotline for BCC students who think they may be women, or have issues with women, or questions about their identity. So come by the Women's center today, unless you're a man, in which case you can die screaming like a stuck Irish pig.

(Pan flutes, up and out.)

KAROL: OK.

ACE: Whoa.

KAROL: We're back, and this is, umm...

ACE: On Point.

KAROL: On Point, and our first guest here is Dean Tercel Montrose. Dean Montrose, are you there?

(A faint hum.)

ACE:

KAROL: Dean?

ACE: F*ckin' Deja vu here.

KAROL: DEAN? Dean Montrose: Are You There?

ACE: What does this button...

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ANNOUNCER: THIS IS A TEST. THIS IS ONLY A TEST OF THE ....

ACE: MOTHERF*CK! Whoops. Uh, Sorry.

KAROL: Dean Montrose?

ACE: See Dubya wanted "Truth Pimp". Or "Loot their Bodies." But no, Karol, had to go with...

(Phone Rings)

KAROL: Hello? Dean Montrose?

CALLER: (Sounds of smacking) Nope. This is Oliver Willis.

ACE: Motherf---

CALLER: (Slurp snarf) And I just gotta say..."On Point?" What kinda pansy name for a show is that? You guys are SO LAME! Bwaahaahaa--URK. GACK. URK. BLACHHH! Okay, little Heimlich there. (smack) Even better the second time. Yeah, what wsa I sayin'? Oh yeah. "On Point?" Ace, I used to respect you, man. You were my nemesis, my worthy adversary, my Captain Hook. Now you are my Peter Pan, bitch. You and Tinkerbelle have a good show.

SLAM! Zaaaaa.......

KAROL: Dean Montrose? Are you there?

See-Dub, y'all ain't allowed to post anymore tonight unless you join us at "aoshqunofficialchat001" on AIM.

Is that in California?

No, seriously, I do not/cannot do the IM thing.

Jesus, Ace, those titles are too gay even for me!

too gay for even me!

On Point - great images are possible with this one. For instance:

http://prague.tv/galleries/funny-pics7/impaled.jpg

We've got KCTrio as well now. Come one, come all, before you miss the first unofficial AOSHQ chat!

(No, I really have nothing better to do tonight.)

How about the XXXTreme X-Pundits!

Oh, we're off the 'X' thing?

Probably was a better direction than "The Cutting Edge," at least. Oh man. Good times, Ace, good times.

See-Dub, you've outdone yourself.

And Ace, of course, but that goes without saying today, huh...

Boo AIM. hooray Messenger.

Megan, I don't see that chat listed at the AIM chat site.

Later,
bbeck

bbeck,

aoshqunofficialchat001

has had half a dozen people work it out tonight - if it's not getting on for you, IM me at

Cancer Marney

on AIM and let's see what we can do. :)

All those names suck, but hey... at least you can hope the rest of the program is better by comparison.

Jeff B. :

If Ace is a Hokie it's probably due to the fact he had hopes of an education and the possibility of getting laid by a girl who didn't actually file her nails during sex.

Granted, he likely struck out on both counts, but it still beats the hell out of being a Wahoo.

Let's face it, with all the problems Ace already has, I can't imagine him wanting to deal with being an alumni of what really amounts to nothing more than Va Tech's bitch. Yes she dresses herself nicely and speaks in big words between bong hits, but a Wahoo by any other name would smell as skank.

Bill, what are you doing pissing around over here? Don't you have a blog or something? For god's sake boy, get yourself a porn mag and use your free time usefully.

While you're here, you might as well answer this: What's the over/under on Ace & Karol's show actually sucking worse than yours?

And hey, wouldn't it be hilarious if nobody could tell Ace & Karol's voices apart?

Oh, and just because I really have nothing better to do with my life, here's another title suggestion:

Sawed off AK - Shooting from the lip

how about the ''fake but accurate radio'' show
starring: lucy ace ramirez-rodham-heinzkerry- bushitler-ratzinger-sullivan, esq.

that'll get you right into the media mainstream

Megan, I downloaded AIM and IMed you to no avail. The chat room name isn't anywhere on the AIM list that I can find. Perhaps we'll try again some other time.

Later,
bbeck

I did the same Beck - just IM Cancar Marney, dont look for the room

I did the same Beck - just IM Cancer Marney, dont look for the room

bbeck -

Ace is here (w00t) and we've got a few more people from comments - I'm not sure what might be messing up your connection.

Double-check for any extraneous spaces or odd characters and try again if you're still on. If not, I hope to see you another night, because you really do have a nice rack. ;)

Even after one too many over priced drinks, I say:

Both "Edge" ones are out.

"On Point" sounds like Anderson Cooper's next CNN program....

"Hack & Slash" conjures memories of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre or a hack-e-sack.

I'd go with the latter if absolutely necessary, but Ace, unless your partial to one of the four, I suggest hittin' the old drawing-board again.... Doesn't seem like there's a solid consensus among many people.

.... Not that you're looking for one.

'Politcal Science Fiction(s)' or 'Poly Sci-Fi' w/ Karol and Ace.

Hack and Slash

Hoist the Black Flag

On.All. Four.Choices.

I second Bear Attack.

"Bleeding Edge" sounds menstrual.

"Let's be honest" is almost professionally gay.

I like--

Talk or Die.

Shut Your Open Wound.

The Panic Room.

The Misanthrope's Corner.

(but misspell Misanthrope)

Okay, I'm beginning to think that no title will work.

Last possibilities...

The Show With No Name. I like this, as it references "Blondie" from the spaghetti westerns, but it's a bit too cute I think.

Shock & Awe? Come on, that's pretty good, right?

..."least worst" of the four options is:

Hack & Slash.

The others are awful.

Karol has a problem.

In all due respect, if anything is due at all.

too many suggestions... but these four are NOT it... they are gob-smacking vile as Jack said.

If all the previous ones were discarded, Let's Be Honest is better than these finalists. If the audience read your blog, the Show that Shall Not Be Named would be good as well...

The Bleeding Bad Karol and Ace Show

The You like potatoes and I like tomatoes Show... ;-)

You Hack and I Slash

The Ace and Karol Hack and Slash Radio Hour
(so violent... - it's show for serial killers)

the Chip 'N' Dale Political Newshour...

The Twit N Twat Show...

You Hoist and I Foist Show

ok, ok, too many suggestions...

But, I don't like any of the four...

and, I don't care for "Let's Be Honest" since it seems to announce that you haven't been.

As in, "no, the purse isn't stolen" when no one asked if it was.

What was the point of all those other suggestions (names, previous thread) because these four aren't nearly the better of the lot. And, I still think Karol has a problem -- just name your show and let her name her show and then...

I don't know but the best ideas get rejected and then there are these four? I don't get it.

Don't know why, but I've got "Ineffable Train Wreck" stuck in my head. Rolls trippingly off the tongue and all . . .

These selections, however, are proof that Manhattan is way out of it. I mean, really, really out of it if "Bleeding Edge" and "Pointing Edge" and "On Point" and "Let's Be Honest" are the title ideas to work wtih. I mean, really, really, REALLY out of touch, lost in space, just overwhelmingly too trendy. I never thought you were about those, ace, so I'm flabberghasted here. "Hack and Slash" works to a degree but it does drag about two generations older. You might as well call it "Bleeding Edge Tech" or something....

I'd say "The Bleeding Edge" is out. Karol really doesn't like the blood thing, and, as someone said, it may have been a hip thing to say in a 1999 issue of PC Gamer but it is well past its expiration date.

As for all the titles which are "better" ...

well, I don't know. Some titles were good. But this is a compromise sort of thing; I can't just name the show whatever I like. The name has to appeal to Karol as well.

"Let's Be Honest" is a cute catchphrase, but it's not a show title. It sounds a lot like Joan Rivers' catchprhase "Can we talk?"

Maybe it's time to whole hog with the cutesy poo stuff. E.g., "Keepin' It Real w/ Ace and Karol." "Straight Shootin' w/A&K," etc.

The apostrophe in place of the "g" is essential.

Dear angry Ace of Spades readers,

Just because Ace blames the rejection of your name ideas on me, doesn't mean that I'm actually the one doing the rejecting. Just a thought.

Also, as some of you have pointed out, it's unlikely anyone is going to use our show name and will likely just refer to it as 'Ace and Karol's show', or something. It's kind of a formality, that's why I'm looking to keep it simple and avoid mentions of blood or hacking and slashing.

"Keepin' It Real w/ Ace and Karol.

that's good. And it features your names on it, good brand marketing.

Not too old-fashioned, not too hip that it's ridiculous tomorrow. my vote after the new selection of finalists.

Um, I was joking about "Keepin' It Real." That's something you'd use for a half-hour talk show hosted by Ahmad Rashad that airs after Conan O'Brien.

Focus, people, focus.

So I guess "Hoist the Black Flag" is out. too bad

How about:

Red Brains in a Blue State
or
Moments of Lucidity

How about just plain ol' , "Gob-Smacked"?

If you're going after He Who Shall Not Be Named, you'd have to call it Milk Duds.

Also in the Ahmad Rashad vein: It's All Good w/ Ace and Karol.

Everything is in fact Karol's fault. I plan to make this clear during every show.

In fact, a good title would be "It's Karol's Fault."

Hoist the Black Flag isn't really out of the running. A lot of people like it, and I sort of like it, although I still don't know if a show title should be a sentence.

I don't know what Karol thinks about it... not sure I asked her.

How about "Pick a Fuckin' Name Already Show"?

Jive Talkin'! w/ Ace and Karol.

Please note the exclamation point. It's crucial.

"Cutthroat Commentary"

See, the Pirate Theme can work:

Walking the Plank
Bilge Rats
Scurvey Scum
Grog n' Gossip
Bilge Bile

Or the Poker theme:

Ace Is High, Hearts are Played

I wouldn't mind "Cutthroat(s)," but Karol apparently isn't into the whole Heavy Metal Album Cover imagery thing I'm going for, so that sort of thing is preemptively vetoed.

I've been told no swords, no hacking, no slashing, no blood.

Allah, I kind of like your suggestions.

How about, Wazzzzup!!! with Ace and Karol?

I think we may be drifting towards Hoist the Black Flag, by the way. Not to tell tales out of school, but Liz the Producer likes that the best, Karol says it's "good," and I'm okay with it.

Step One: Please the "suits"

Liz is basically a very, very corporate sort of person, so all she thinks about is "branding" and "synergy" and stuff.

"Wazzzzup!!!" is true to the spirit, but it lacks the all-important apostrophe.

How about Hangin' with Ace and Karol? Or, if you're set on the black flag thing, Hoistin'?

"Synergy?"

Oh, for frig's sake...don't go all corporate on us.

just kidding. I said that to annoy Liz. She's the exact opposite of corporate.

Although I do intend to complain about her being the "suits" keepin' me down.

Allah,

You're killin' me. "Hoistin'!" might be the winner.

I'm glad to see Ace defer to a woman. That's just the way things ought to be.

I vote for hoist the black flag...not great but definitely the best of the choices.

It's not defering, it's a carefully orchestrated game of pretending I agree and pretending I'm deferring and then, "Oh no! NPR already has a show called On Point," jeeze louise, I guess we're just going to have to go with that title that I don't like (but really I do).

This is the way women have to be dealt with. Honesty is for chumps.

YES!!!!

HOIST THE BLACK FLAG

This is the way women have to be dealt with. Honesty is for chumps.

Sure. Except my wife. She's a psych nurse and if I try to pull that crap I get my ass kicked and a earful of psychobabble.

Not worth it in the end.

Deferrin' to Corporate Power! w/ Ace and Karol.

Stone-Cold Chillin' w/Ace and Karol

Fo' Shizzle, My Nizzle w/Ace and Karol

Stickin' it to Da Man! w/Ace and Karol (made possible by a grant from the Ford Foundation)

Debatin' Issuez! w/ Ace and Karol

It's not defering, it's a carefully orchestrated game of pretending I agree and pretending I'm deferring and then, "Oh no! NPR already has a show called On Point," jeeze louise, I guess we're just going to have to go with that title that I don't like (but really I do).

I don't know about this...something tells me YOU are the one being manipulated here. I mean, afterall, you are being manhandled by TWO women. And lets face it, men can't come close to the level of manipulation of a woman and TWO women - PLEASE!

Me thinks Karol and Liz likes Hoist the Black Flag and they are just stringing you all for kicks and laughing at you behind your back at how crafty they are and what an idiot you are.

But don't feel bad...happens all the time.

Pimp My Show w/ Ace and Karol

They all Suck, Suck, Suck. Except mine. More!

Think Tank
Brain Trust
Grok the Schlock
Face the Ace
Republican Indeed Only
Net Magazine
Speaker's Corner
Ergonomic Opinion
Opinion Nation
Voice in the Wilderness
I, WYSIWYG
Token Manhattan Conservative
Deception Boilerplate
No Small Potatoes
User Friendly, Sometimes
Political Smart Bomb
Locution, Locution, Locution
Barbaric Yawp Enlightenment (cool Walt Whitman reference)
I Think, Therefore I Grouse (rant, complain, lecture, etc.)

uh, rdbrewer, as it were

Let's be honest a second:

Is Karol an equal partner or is this really an Ace vehicle with an "Ed McMahon" /"Robin Quivers" sidekick.

Cause if it's an "Ace" vehicle, you might as well strap on some nads and just name it what you and the suits want.

I'd just call it "Aces High" or "Aces and Eights" (The Dead Man's Hand) or something, and tell Karol to get with the program (no pun intended).

If it's an "equal partnership" well, those kind of shows tend not to work. Is Stern an "equal partnership"? How about Imus? Or Limbaugh? Hannity? Dr. Laura? Dr. Phil? Dr. Dean Edell?

You know what is an equal partnership? All Things Considered. Do you really want the NPR vibe?

I think that's one of the big problems Goldstein/Indc Bill have right now. Two captains and no first officers makes for an unbalanced lineup.

Kickin' It! w/Ace and Karol

All these suggestions, and these 4 shitty ideas are all we have to choose from?

I'm shocked, disgusted, AND appalled.

How about.....

RadioActive

Well, we're equals, but the show was pitched as an Ace show, so the sensibility has to skew more my way than hers... again, it's how it was pitched.

I can't do anything about it at this point, even if I wanted to. I swear!

Big Pimpin' w/Ace and Karol

It's All 'Bout the Benjamin's w/Ace and Karol

"RadioActive"

Well, it's a cool song by The Firm, but... it's a little too cute.

And it's a little embarassing, because we're not on the radio.

tinkerbelle,

Don't be ridiculous. I am a master of manipulating women, except when it comes to getting them to give me some sex.

Gettin' Jiggy Wit' Topical Issues and Interesting News of the Day, w/Ace and Karol

Uh, oh....desperate horny bastard alert!

Well, shit. Give us some insight here. I think most of the posters here favor titles with a bit of attitude like some of these suggestions -

Sound and Fury
Talk or Die
On Notice

Does these strike Karol as juvenile?

"does these"

God, am I a retard. Maybe you should name your show "For Retards Only"

Hey, we must remember Allah's apostrophe rule, so the title should be "For 'Tards Only."

Man, I'm in an evil mood today.

The real insight is that Karol isn't knocking down as many of these as I'm hinting. I'm knocking some down, but I like blaming other people, where useful.

Sound and Fury -- this is one we both could live with but were very much "ehhh" on. It's like when a guy wants to see "TimeCop" and the chick wants to see "Fried Green Tomatoes" so you both compromise and wind up seeing something you both hate, like "Regarding Henry." Which, you know, really should have been called "Retarding Henry," because that's what it was about.

Talk or Die -- never even considered. It's just... well, a little too P. Diddy. It's funny as a parody of P. Diddy, I guess, but the show's name can't just be a reference to something else. It has to stand for something independently.

On Notice-- never considered. It means nothing at all except to people who read this site. And even among those people, it's not like "On Notice" is one of the more beloved Paul Anka quotes.

Look, if you didn't know about this site and you went to the Talk Right site (they advertise all over) and saw a show called "On Notice," would *you* click on it?

Raisin' Our Media Profilez w/ Ace and Karol

where have the exclamation points of yesteryear gone, I wonder?

That's Hot! w/Karol and Ace

Let's Do It w/Ace and Karol

Gettin' It On w/ Ace and Karol. But the "o" in "On" has to be pronounced as a long "o," and it has to be extended an extra second. So that the title actually sounds like, "Gettin' It Owwwn."

Don't be ridiculous. I am a master of manipulating women, except when it comes to getting them to give me some sex.

uh- evidence that you are no master. Isn't sex the only important thing to men? Usually that's what men master FIRST. because, frankly, they don't really care about anything else.

because, frankly, they don't really care about anything else.

I beg to differ. A well-lived life has to be about more than sex.

It absolutely must include beer and pizza. And those are things I care deeply about.

E.g., "Hey everyone, it's Ace. I'm here with Karol, and we're gettin' it owwwwn."

Tossin these out here. Going w/ a politcal tie ins, although previous show possibilites seem to be moving to something broader.

Muckraking w/ K+A

Crass Roots Movement or just 'crass roots'

Pork Barrel radio.

How about Slamming Liberals?

How about just Slammin'! w/Ace and Karol

I still like Hoist the Black Flag and it could drive people to your site (that is if anyone other than those that read this blog listen to the show). and aren't you always begging for more hits on your site?

Maybe this way you won't have to gravel to Instapundit and pimp yourself to him for a link.

You can become an independent whore

Parrotin' Republican Talkin' Pointz! w/ Ace and Karol.

Slammin' is good..better than "On Point"

Totally OT: It may be time to raise the Sullivan Freak-Out Advisory.

Ace,

"On Notice" isn't necessarily an inside joke. When it was first suggested, I didn't even associate it with Paul Anka.

Ace said about "On Notice": On Notice-- never considered. It means nothing at all except to people who read this site. And even among those people, it's not like "On Notice" is one of the more beloved Paul Anka quotes.

Look, if you didn't know about this site and you went to the Talk Right site (they advertise all over) and saw a show called "On Notice," would *you* click on it?
___

All I can say is that goes triple for On Point. Plus On Point lacks any inside-joke value. Plus its an NPR show. Please tell me On Point is off the table. Put a line through it. Don't make me write another radio play showing you why that won't work.

Good grief, you people have your own right-wing talk show gig and you want to call it "On Point"? Ace, if you were awarded absolute mastery over Heidi Klum for one week, I think you'd have her spend it cleaning out your garage.

The Jack Meeoff Show, starring Ace and Karol

See-Dubya,

I think "On Point" has been dropped as a real possibility. There's an NPR show called that.

I played my trump.

'Didi Mao!' w/ Karol and Ace.

Just "Black Flag" ...without the hoistin'?

HTBF is the best of all the gay stuff listed.

"On Notice" isn't necessarily an inside joke. When it was first suggested, I didn't even associate it with Paul Anka.

Then what does it mean? What's the grabby nature of it?

I have to say, it's pretty pedestrian and boring. Worse than On Point, because at least On Point has a double (or even triple) meaning.

Slublog,

I have sent an email to Kevin at Wizbang suggesting that the Freak-Out be elevated.

Eh, the gag is getting pretty old now.
You've spent more time finding a name than the show will be on air.

The Circular File
Flyover Country
The Technomage Conspiracy
Click on ME!
Lesbian Fantasy
Too Cute with Ace & Karol
I'm not gay, just questioning with Ace & Karol
Geek Eye for the Straight Guy
Conservative Corsairs
Red America's Raiders
ARGHHH!
Tipping Point
Vanishing Point (nah been used)

Still Ballin' with Ace and Karol

>I like blaming other people

Blamin' Other People /w etc.

The BOP Hour

Honestly? I think "On Notice" sounds like what you get for having overdue library books or something.

Good to see the ASFOA might be upgraded. I'm getting the duct tape...

'Rough Draft' w/ Karol and Ace.

(Maybe pirate stuff inevitably sounds swishy.)

Starboard is the right side of the ship, so perhaps something can be made of that.

"All Hands Starboard."

"The Starboard Rake"

Or something with Salvo.

Or something with Broadside.

Arrrgh Wasps!

I say this when I step on something pointy.
It's sticky enough to be repeated,
because I now hear it across lawns on fine summer days from homeowners and tradespeople with minor injuries.

No flag hoisting is a drawback, but blag flag is used to kill wasps, so people could imagine you hoisting a can of it...

Jeezus, you people are dummer 'n a bag o' hammers!

Just kidding but i wanted to slip a line from "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?", in somewhere.

Seriously, "Hoist the Black Flag" stinks. The joke in the biz will be "...White Flag".

Broadside
Point Blank

"Keepin' It Real w/ Ace and Karol." - not gooey

The BOP Hour :-)

HTBF - if nothing better, it sounds too fantasy, though. If you are trying to reach to an unknown audience, not good.. sounds too fringe... would you go find out what a show titled HTBF was about only by this title? I would imagine it was something sponsored by Disney for 8-12 yr olds... with your hosts... Captain Hook and Tinkerbell... - I don't associate Black/pirates with Republicans or conservatives, but then if you are trying to create this pirate brand thing.. or your audience already knows your site... that works

Maybe HTBF strikes more of a chord with a potential male audience.

Black Flag Conspiracy

"Salad Tossin'"?

Joan of Arrrgh! has talent.

My choice of the four sucky ones: Hack and Slash.

My choice of the other suggested ones: Hoist the Black Flag.

If you don't want a four-word sentence as a title, seeing as it's a bit unwieldy, we could go with the meaning of hoisting the black flag:

Take No Prisoners

Give No Quarter
or just
No Quarter

Nerdy/Literary reference:
From Hell's Heart

I just realized my suggestions sound more like band names than show names. Try:

This is Ace and Karol, and we're Takin(g) No Prisoners

This is Ace and Karol, and we're Givin(g) No Quarter

Sorry im so late to the party but may I add another?

DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION

cuz fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

Hey Ace, you might want to veto that whole black flag thing

Hoist.

the

Black

Flag.

That's it!

"Late To The Party"

Describes Ace, anyway.

Don't forget to spit on your hands either.

Thanks all. I've decided to set up a blog myself. I should try to include more words, but sometimes brevity is shorter.

In view of Delphi Guy's post, I guess it should be

tear down the black flag

Amos & Andy

Burn the Black Flag
Shred the Black Flag
Defile the Black Flag
Defecate on the Black Flag
Spit on the Black Flag
Gag a Terrorist with the Black Flag
Line the Parrot Cage with the Black Flag

Jack off on the Black Flag

"On point" is a ballet term.
"The Cutting Edge" is bor-ing.
"Hoist the Black Flag"--didn't you already have reader complaints about this one?

"Gob-smacked" (suggested above): yes.

Ooh, Turnbuckle's good.
"Let's Be Honest," "On Notice." Two winners.

If folks have a problem with the color of the flag, then why not just use "Hoist the Flag" or "Hoisting the Flag?" That could mean lots of things: patriotism, piracy, surrender, BS...

Later,
bbeck

Hoist the Black Flag.

By a lot.

Or, if you want to sound like every other lame show out there, one of the others.

X-talk

As in dirty crosstalk with an x factor.

OK, "No Quarter" works, too.

"On Notice" isn't necessarily an inside joke. When it was first suggested, I didn't even associate it with Paul Anka.

'Then what does it mean? What's the grabby nature of it?'

It means you're on fuckin notice! Is the Paul Anka tape the first time you heard this term? He sure as hell didn't invent it.

Ehhhhh, I don't know why I'm arguing. You clearly don't like it. If I'm going to argue for something, it might as well be one of my own suggestions. I've got a big fuckin' ego to feed, and it sure ain't gonna happen if I'm shoveling food into someone else's pie-hole.

I'm still of the mind that 'Hoist the Black Flag' would be the ideal choice for the show's name.

Oh and WOOHOO!! 250!!

Okay, time for the marketing Guru to chime in.

Hoist the Black Flag won't work...too many billions spent on linking that with killing cockroaches and aerosol poisons (unless that was what you were going for).

If you want to stick with the the pirate thingy, go with something more direct like "The Jolly Roger" or "Walking the Plank".

I agree with previous comments about variations of the "The Edge"...too overdone (I think Squiggy has a talk show called "On the Edge").

However, let's play with that for while. I think you should go with something that hits a little more close to home like "On the Ledge" or even "Jump". Your fans will love the naked honesty.

X-talk - nice! I would click on it to find out what it was, as long as the link gave some context that it wasn't XXX-talk.

The Ace Conspiracy

HTBF works if it appears with more info giving people a bit of clue of what the black flag means.

Jump! is cool too. Although it works better for an extreme sports show.

It looks like HTBF has won, though.

Master Debates w Ace & Karol

You'll never guess where I got that "Hoist the Black Flag" shit from either. Ready?

It was on a t-shirt some Mexican guy was using to mop up sweat at my gym.

go with Black Flag...."the cutting edge" was a damn figure skating movie, and "on point" is boring

Someone has probably already mentioned this, but Black Flag is bug spray (the cheap alternative to Raid).

It was also the name of no-neck Rollins' kick-ass thrash-metal band. BFD.

how about ''STRAIGHTen up and fly RIGHT''radio

How about

"On Target",

or

"In The Crosshairs, with Ace and Karol"?

Sad... just effin sad!
X...attack...cutting edge...on point...sharp as a tack...
ABANDON SHIP!!! You're sinking at the dock...