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April 19, 2005
A Necessary Re-LinkingThis cannot be helped. Sorry. Over at future co-host Karol's site, Dowtown Lad (please don't give him traffic; be a sport, huh?) is, in the comments, once again accusing me of being homophobic. His evidence for this? 1, I accuse Andrew Sullivan of being hyperemotional, which is a stereotype used to mock gays. Well, it's true-- I do accuse him of that. But it's not my fault that Sullivan has chosen to make himself into a stereotype. If the man is going to use the most egregiously hyperbolic language to express his "outrage" at everything under the sun, what am I to do? Pretend he's as laconic as Clint Eastwood on hashish? Every hysterically-emotional word I used in my parodies comes straight from Sullivan's keyboard, as I demonstrate here. 2, he whines that one post is titled "Andrew Sullivan is an Ass," and you know, writing "ass" within ten words of the name of a known homosexual means that you're, you know, talking about homo-stuff. Well, for one thing, that title comes straight from the Professor Bainbridge article I'm linking there. For another thing, when I want to make a sodomy joke, I know how to do so, as longtime readers of this site can well attest.
I've got nothing against gay men. I just wouldn't want them marrying my daughters. Why no similar statement about lesbians? Does any straight guy really have to make this sort of a declaration about lesbians? Come on. Straight guys love lesbians. If only that love weren't so painfully unrequited. Columbo Says "Oh there's just one more thing..." Update: I'm not the only one who's noticed that Andrew is, let us say, a bit high-strung. Don Luskin, I think, first pointed it out, and I realized he was right-- and this was in the days of "Good Conservative Andrew." But I still knew that Luskin was right to point out that, in between hectoring people about civility, Sullivan employs the most emotionally-charged language and nasty ad hominem attacks. And "Excitable Andy" was not coined by me. I wish I'd that one to my credit. Nope, that was the work of the notorious homophobe Mickey Kaus. "I'm not making this stuff up."* *Where? posted by Ace at 08:37 PM
CommentsIn reality - Sullivans comments about the Pope are some of the most interesting ones on the blogosphere out there. Downtown Lad must be jockeying for email of the day. He's an idiot. Oliver Willis is stupid. Overlooking his stupidity and pretending it's not there is reverse racism. Andrew Sullivan gets the vapors. That's just the way it is. Posted by: Nicholas Kronos on April 19, 2005 08:51 PM
Bah, DL is a fucking swine. I remember I read an analogue to the anti-American (well, treasonous, really) comment I referenced in this thread in the comments on a Gay Patriot post - like I said, spend a little time around these people, and it stops even being remarkable. Anyway, I'll just let y'all guess the identity of one of the few people to defend those sentiments. On to other things (because whenever DL is mentioned even in passing I feel like scrubbing my hands with Lysol) - if you want to hat-tip me, Ace, here's a better reason than a phrase I'm sure someone beat me to coining... Posted by: Megan on April 19, 2005 09:08 PM
Oh, and if anyone's offended by "negative stereotypes" of gay people, you might not want to click on my first link - or, if you do, skip my posts (and probably Marty's as well). :P I've had much more contact with that diseased "culture" than Ace has, sadly enough, and "hyperemotional" is just about the least significant criticism you can fuckin' make of it. Posted by: Megan on April 19, 2005 09:13 PM
Yeech. Mannettes like DL and Andy make the gang on Queer Eye For the Straight Guy look like a gang of Navy Seals. Posted by: Andrea Harris on April 19, 2005 09:21 PM
Don't be fucking suckers. This is how the game is played. Declare your sexuality (race/religion/favorite color) to be central to all your politics (as Andrew has) and then whenever criticized, you can be comfortable knowing that you can counter-attack by declaring your critics homophobes. Did you catch that? Isn't a neat trick? His ideas about EVERYTHING are immune from criticism, unless you want to be called fag-basher. Typical leftist tactic, and given Andrew's contrived "journey" that way, perfect form. Posted by: AndrewF on April 19, 2005 09:22 PM
I don't care if my son marries a lesbian, as long as he shares her with me. Posted by: Ellis D. Tecnine on April 19, 2005 09:31 PM
"Not making this stuff up" - Dave Barry, yes? Posted by: Enas Yorl on April 19, 2005 09:38 PM
Not what I was thinking. I was thinking of a movie. Posted by: ace on April 19, 2005 09:42 PM
Gay guys love ace. It's a fact. Posted by: on April 19, 2005 09:44 PM
Fuckin' April again, right there with the funny. I would like to be April, just for a day even. Fuckin' April... Posted by: spongey@home on April 19, 2005 09:47 PM
Latest Sullivan post: "If the insular cardinals believe that they have helped save the faith in the West, I fear they are mistaken. They may have ensured its final death rattle." No, he's not melodramatic. He purports to claim this religion as his own: "When in the past, I have been at Mass, I have felt as a reality the presence of God." Yet this 2,000 year institution may be in its "death rattle" because a 78 year old conservative scholar is becoming Pope? Despite the fact that in Sullivan's own experience this same institution can command through ritual the very "presence of God"? John Paul II was the third longest-serving Pope, yet he presided over the Church a little more than 1 percent of its existence. And a Pope not much different from JPII but who will be lucky to serve a half decade Sully warns may kill it. Does Sullivan tend to the hysteric? I rest my case. Posted by: Nicholas Kronos on April 19, 2005 09:50 PM
ace, do you do this stuff for a living? Posted by: Dave in Texas on April 19, 2005 10:09 PM
Declare your sexuality (race/religion/favorite color) to be central to all your politics (as Andrew has) and then whenever criticized, you can be comfortable knowing that you can counter-attack by declaring your critics homophobes. Hey, this could work for me. I'm half Mexican. Any comments on immigration will henceforth be regarded as racist. No arguments, or I'll pull an Oliver Willis on you. Posted by: Slublog on April 19, 2005 10:33 PM
Nicholas, Good day, sir. Posted by: Sean M. on April 19, 2005 10:34 PM
Geez, what a waste of time. DL is a crackpot; he doesn't deserve refutation. Posted by: someone on April 19, 2005 10:38 PM
Andrew Sullivan should go into the business of writing trashy romance novels. Do you have any idea how much money he could make with pages of purple prose like that? Wouldn't even have to ask his readers to pay for his vacation. Posted by: NF on April 19, 2005 10:39 PM
Who's Andrew Sullivan? Never heard of the poncy fop. Posted by: rho on April 19, 2005 10:50 PM
What, is there something wrong with being gay? If they don't like being criticized they should do what every other good American does...sue! Fucking Butt Pirates. Posted by: Iblis on April 19, 2005 10:51 PM
DL just showed up at the Blogtower and started in with his usual invective. Anyone who wants to come over and set him straight (pun intended) is welcome to do so. http://allalongtheblogtower.blogspot.com/2005/04/ Posted by: Jack M. on April 19, 2005 10:53 PM
For all the "I am alienated from the Church types".... What, exactly, do you love about the Church? No, "it reminds me of my youth" doesn't count. No, "I always wanted to get married in church" doesn't count. No, "I find comfort in being in a church" doesn't count. What is it, spiritually, doctrinally, that attracts you to the church? Because it sure as shit isn't the teachings, except maybe in a very egalitarian-friendly, "Love thy Neighbor" kind of way. All of the touchy feeley, none of the responsibility. Andrew, and others of his stripe, are looking for the Church to validate every last detail of their lifestyles. And no, not just homosexuality wise. They want a church that confirms to them that God agrees with their worldview. Talk about being fucking self-absorbed. Posted by: AndrewF on April 19, 2005 11:19 PM
The real question is: has Benedict the 'teenth bumped Bush out of the fascist chair? Habemus Popehitler? Posted by: rho on April 19, 2005 11:38 PM
Hey, this could work for me. I'm half Mexican. Who fuckin' let you on my site? You're taking work away from real American commenters. Posted by: ace on April 19, 2005 11:43 PM
Andrew Sullivan is a hysterical, screaming little girl. I know a fair number of gay men. They are men who are gay. Emphasis on men. Andrews is a hysterical, screaming little girl. Is suspect that even if he were straight, he'd still be a hysterical, screaming little girl. Some folks are just like that. Posted by: holdfast on April 19, 2005 11:46 PM
Heheh. I love comment registration. DL (Dork Load) left a stupid comment in my moderation queue, which of course I deleted. It wasn't even a very good insult; frankly I'm disappointed. If it had been really skanky I'd have dedicated a blog post to it. Your loss, DL! Posted by: Andrea Harris on April 20, 2005 12:04 AM
Hilarious DL (Doofus Lip) comment from the Alarming News site: And Jack - Don't you dare try and take my Jewish identity away from me.He didn't -- I did! Nya nya stole your identity! And I ain't given' it back! Posted by: Andrea Harris on April 20, 2005 12:09 AM
Wow. I just made the mistake of engaging in "dialogue" with DL over at Karol's place. It's a wonder he can walk upright with that chip/boulder on his shoulder (rhyme unintentional). PLEASE rest assured that his invective does NOT reflect real Judaism. Posted by: speedster1 on April 20, 2005 12:20 AM
Yeah..that "taking my Jewish identity away" thing was really something else, especially since all I did was repeat something he had posted on this site back when he could post on this site. What a freakin' tool. I don't think he appreciated my reply very much either. ;) Posted by: Jack M. on April 20, 2005 12:23 AM
I'm not excitable! Stop saying that about me! If you don't stop saying that, I'll cry! Posted by: Andrew Sullivan on April 20, 2005 01:21 AM
That link doesn't work, Jack. Posted by: CraigC on April 20, 2005 02:00 AM
I blame Blogger. It should have worked. Anyway, he disappeared. He made one comment and skulked back to Karol's place, so if you want to see him in action hit that thread. Posted by: Jack M. on April 20, 2005 02:29 AM
Did Downtown lad really get banned from this site? What in the world did he do? I can't imagine what he could have done to get kicked of this site. Posted by: tnkerbelle on April 20, 2005 11:15 AM
Ahhh, the Lad . . . the "man" (not questioning his gear, just not sure he's real) who said: "If you don't agree with the gay lifestyle 100% then you're a homophobe" over at Totten's. Yeah, being viscerally disgusted at the promiuscuity and irresponsibility of the bathhouse makes me a homophobe. Yep. 'phobe me up! Lad, I know you're reading this, and you're even more of a hysterical little girl than Randy Andy. Posted by: hobgoblin on April 20, 2005 12:26 PM
Has anyone considered that the best "cure" for homosexuality would be same sex marriage -marriage works wonders for the "breeders" Posted by: Son of a Pig and a Monkey on April 20, 2005 02:53 PM
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