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April 05, 2005

DU Off the Deep End

Democratic Underground Internet Detectives Link Our Eternal Hero Jeff Gannon To Long-Missing Boy, Rush Limbaugh, Presidential Pedophiliac Sex-Cults, and Satanic CIA Agents

Not a joke, alas.

I wish the MSM would stop treating all "blogs" alike. First of all, DU ain't a blog. Second of all, The New York Times would not be pleased to have the sins of the National Enquirer charged to its account. (Or maybe they would; the National Enquirer is nearly as accurate as the NYT lately.)

I-- uh, I mean Ace -- has said this a dozen times: When the media speaks about blogs peddling insane crazy theories, they're generally talking about left-wing sites. It's the left-wing sites-- including the biggest, "respectable" ones -- that traffic in this sort of insanity.

Have you ever seen this sort of crap in any big right-wing blog? Sure, right-wing blogs traffic in crazy theories, like claiming that Rather used transparently-forged documents to prove his AWOL case against Bush, but damnit, these crazy theories keep turning out to be true.

Start the insanity:

Johnny Gosch may finally have been found, thanks to Rush Limbaugh.

The Iowa paperboy was kidnapped in 1982, with unsubstantiated stories emerging later from his mother that he was abducted into a child pedophilia ring. No trace of him has ever been found, and no suspects have been arrested.

Nearly 23 years later, White House correspondent Jeff Gannon, who wrote for a conservative Web site, was exposed in February as James D. Guckert, a man with no journalism experience and links to several gay escort addresses online.

If you have the time to read a few hundred Web postings, you will see how Johnny Gosch and Jeff Gannon, two completely unrelated individuals, became the same person on the Web. The way the theory developed says much about the anything-goes nature of the blogosphere and self-proclaimed reporters on the Internet, who seem to find accuracy and proof a nuisance in uncovering fantastical conspiracies.

It took the random efforts of scores of Web loggers (bloggers), credulous readers and longtime followers of the case to assign the two men a bizarre, shared backstory involving satanic CIA agents, pedophiles and presidents. And, of course, Limbaugh.

...

The Gannon-Gosch conspiracy theory first appeared on the message board of a liberal political site called The Democratic Underground on Feb. 26. A site regular, using the name TwoSparkles, speculated that Jeff Gannon was victimized by a government-organized child pornography ring.

Then he foreshadowed the future with this note: "I found this picture of Johnny Gosch. I looked at it and almost thought it looked like Gannon! It must be getting late." The image was a school picture of Gosch taken in the 1980s and later enhanced.

The same poster noted that Gannon/Guckert and Gosch had the same initials.

Wow! The same initials! That's... not very persuasive at all.

Before long, other site members were trying to figure out whether the ages matched. (In fact, there would be more than 10 years' age difference between Gannon and Gosch.)

Big deal. We've got that "same initials" thing going.

...

Bloggers [of what political leaning, might I be so bold to ask?] picked up on the theory and soon the yarn was developing on hundreds of sites, many linked to one another. Entire blogs, or Web journals, are now devoted to the subject of whether Gosch grew up to become the disgraced reporter.

The complete concoction goes like this: Gosch was kidnapped into a pedophilia and child pornography ring that serviced the upper echelons of Washington, D.C., society. He was brainwashed by the CIA, trained to be part of a top-secret escort program. Then, he became Jeff Gannon and was given a plum job as a White House correspondent with the online conservative news service to keep him quiet.

Finally, he was "uncovered" by the bloggers.

...

The most fervent bloggers on the Web aren't as interested in linking Gannon to Gosch as they are in presenting their version of a massive conspiracy. The story that excites them is a sordid tale about the CIA operating a pedophilia ring on behalf of dignitaries and politicians and training male prostitutes to serve as spies.

They try to link both Bush presidents to this conspiracy, prove that Hunter S. Thompson's death was not a suicide and investigate a so-called government-sponsored pedophilia operation they claim continues to abduct children.

...

Several bloggers suggest Gosch was brainwashed or has multiple personalities. "He may not have any idea," observed a visitor using the tag "ohmygosch" on http://mparent777.blog -city.com.

Jim Rothstein, a retired New York City police officer and longtime investigator on the Gosch case, said becoming a White House reporter is completely in character for a former victim of the pedophilia ring.

In fact, Gannon/Guckert may have orchestrated the scenario for a greater purpose.

"Is it possible he drew attention to himself during that Jan. 26 press conference to pique the curiosity of citizen investigators?" posited one blogger.

...

But the Internet always has answers. White, for instance, explains why newspapers aren't interested in this story.

"Have you ever heard of Operation Mockingbird?" he asked.

It's another theory. It argues that the press is being controlled by the CIA.

Read. The Whole. Thing. I don't know why I bothered to excerpt at all, except to draw you in.

Insane. Insane. Insane. And yet the media just won't call a spade a spade.

I don't seem to remember them having the same reservations about branding the anti-Clinton crazies -- and some were crazy, let's admit; some of us here might even have had a touch of that lunacy at one time or another -- the addled cranks that they were.

Thanks to DB.

ALSO: thanks to Russ from Winterset. He actually tipped me first, but I didn't get around to reading his tip. I thought it was just a link to DU moonbattery -- i.e., the site itself -- which I gotta tell ya I'm sick of wading through. But it was an eariler tip to this article.

Sorry to not credit you, Winterset. I, Hoke Malokey, am a douche.

Update:

PRESIDENT BUSH: Hello, is this the Democratic Underground? I'm so fuckin' into you. I want to make you crazy. Make. You. Craaaazy.


posted by Hoke at 04:26 PM
Comments



all this time i really thought Hoke was a real, different person.

i feel so used

Posted by: hobgoblin on April 5, 2005 04:29 PM

I guess the answer is "Yes. Yes I did see that. I also saw Star Wars Kid, too. A long fucking time ago!"

Posted by: spongeworthy on April 5, 2005 04:30 PM

Johnny Gosch = Jeff Gannon = James Guckert = ?

Jade Gold

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos on April 5, 2005 04:31 PM

Well, we've got a real Andy Kauffman thing going on here.

Layer upon layer of postmodern comedy.

And pooter jokes.

Posted by: Smitty on April 5, 2005 04:35 PM

Maybe its Jeff Gordon. The rainbow warrior. Im pretty sure theres some redkneck version of Kos out there working on that angle.

Posted by: on April 5, 2005 04:35 PM

My source tells me Hoke = Ace.

Posted by: on April 5, 2005 04:37 PM

What? No David Icke connection?

Posted by: Shawn on April 5, 2005 04:38 PM

Okay, here's the deal:

There really is a Hoke.

In fact, he commented today.

But Ace couldn't post under his name today, being that he's "retired," so he asked Hoke if he could post under his. Hoke was SUPPOSED to post a couple of times just to get the Andy Kauffman thing rolling, but thusfar, he has dropped the ball.

So, there you go.

At least, that's my theory.

Posted by: Smitty on April 5, 2005 04:39 PM

I have always thought that Jeff Gordon was a little, um, light in the tires, if you know what I mean.

A childhood spend in the forced companionship of pedophiles? Yeah, that seems about right.

/DU retardation

Funny how the left is subtly and not-so-subtly maligning their "allies" the gays. "Gannon=male prostitute b/c he was abducted by gay pedophiles!"

That would be downright bigoted if it came from the right about, say, the Americablog guy.

Posted by: hobgoblin on April 5, 2005 04:41 PM

Smitty (Worst. Character. Ever.),

You're starting to worry me that everyone who comments here is just another version of Ace.

Am I real?

Can I convince the student loan folks that I'm just a figment of Ace's late-stage syphilitic imaginings?

Posted by: hobgoblin on April 5, 2005 04:44 PM

Awww, I never got a chance.

Posted by: Smitty on April 5, 2005 04:45 PM

I hear Ace has gotten himself a gig in Vegas now that hes retired.

Posted by: on April 5, 2005 04:46 PM

Jim Rothstein, a retired New York City police officer and longtime investigator on the Gosch case, said becoming a White House reporter is completely in character for a former victim of the pedophilia ring.

WTF?

Posted by: John from WuzzaDem on April 5, 2005 04:46 PM

As stupid as the initials thing sounds, there's actually something to it. When investigators are searching for a person in hiding, they often start by looking for people with the same initials. Supposedly people want to have that little bit of their past life to hold onto, so while they will otherwise completely change their name there is an almost irresistible urge to keep the same initials.

The legit part of the Gannon story shows this tendency, as while his pen name is quite different it still has the same initials.

Of course the fly in the ointment with regards to this story is if he were abducted and his name were changed you'd think he'd have little say in the matter. I guess the counter would be maybe they let him pick, or maybe they gave him one name and he changed it later. But then why not change it all the way back to the original name? Nah, it doesn't make any sense.

Not to mention that that rest of the story doesn't make any sense either...

Posted by: Bob on April 5, 2005 04:47 PM

Wuzzadem:"Jim Rothstein, a retired New York City police officer and longtime investigator on the Gosch case, said becoming a White House reporter is completely in character for a former victim of the pedophilia ring.

WTF?"

You didnt know about this John? Heres a pic of Helen Thomas' van that she drives to the White House in every day.

Posted by: on April 5, 2005 04:55 PM

There's only one thing wrong with that theory: I'm Johnny Gosch.

Posted by: iowahawk on April 5, 2005 04:56 PM

What is most offensive about the story to me is this part: "The most fervent bloggers on the Web aren't as interested in linking Gannon to Gosch as they are in presenting their version of a massive conspiracy."

Shouldn't that be "the most fervently liberal bloggers" or someting like that?

Seriously, think about what the sentence as written actually says: The more you're into blogging, the crazier you are. Period.

Is this insinuation accidental?

Posted by: Bob on April 5, 2005 04:58 PM

There's only one thing wrong with that theory: I'm Johnny Gosch.

That makes no sense at all. your initials aren't "JG"

Helen Thomas' van - Heh.

Posted by: John from WuzzaDem on April 5, 2005 05:03 PM

"Thanks to DB."


I bet its DB Cooper that tipped Ace to this story. Come on- think about it... Operation Mockingbird...Paul Anka...it all makes sense...

Posted by: on April 5, 2005 05:04 PM

Eh, makes you wonder what the real story is behind the Charles Lingbergh Jr Kidnapping.

Posted by: Cameron_Ludlow_Jr on April 5, 2005 05:08 PM

Must.Resist.Cheap.Ace.Hoax.
Must.Not.Read.Ace
Damn.

Posted by: twreck on April 5, 2005 05:09 PM

For one thing, the pro-Sharon neoconservative Jeff Gannon cabal brings about the theocrat Ashcroft's suspension of our civil rights. It is not heartening that the 15-minute speech delivered Monday night by President Bush is determined by capitalist interests which lead to the final subjugation of the Middle East, beginning with the $90bn invasion of Jeff Gannon . On the other hand, the appropriation of Arab resources can be regarded as the police state which has come to pass. As Norman Mailer pointed out, the Pax Americana of the future leads our attention to this calamity brought to us by a horrific onslaught, known as Jeff Gannon .

Posted by: on April 5, 2005 05:11 PM

Maybe thats more compassionate conservatism, the band of house correspondents is a dumping ground for kidnapped children who have spent years being brainwashed by the CIA after years of molestation.

Sure, if Clinton had come up with it, it would be a testament to the altruism of the left wing, since Bush is in office, it is regarded as some kind of conspiracy.

Posted by: DelphiGuy on April 5, 2005 05:12 PM

the secret about the hidden CIA sex farm will soon be revealed.....once again proving that Spinal Tap was way ahead of its time....

Let's rock and roll
Working on a sex farm
Trying to raise some hard love
Getting out my pitch fork
And poking your hay

Posted by: johnny on April 5, 2005 05:15 PM

If I was the evil CIA/right-wing pederasts and wanted to keep Gosch/Gannon quiet, I wouldn't buy him off with a chintzy press pass. I'd kill him and feed his body to the hogs.

Posted by: Moonbat_One on April 5, 2005 05:32 PM

Googling the sites that took this seriously is entertaining. Haven't seen any sites I recognize yet...which isn't really a shock since I only know about 6.

Posted by: Elric on April 5, 2005 05:50 PM

Is it worth pointing out that the "same initials" theory could also take us right to Ace's favorite Broadway character, the indefatigable JAME GUMB?

Posted by: Il Padrino on April 5, 2005 06:19 PM

J.G.

J.G.

Hmmm.

Who else has the initials J.G. and seems to know his way around gay porn c0ck?

Posted by: hobgoblin on April 5, 2005 06:38 PM

The worst part of this story is that Johnny Gosch's mom was driven abso-fuckin-lutely batshit after spending 20+ years looking for her little 12 year old boy. She's gotten to the point where she would probably buy into any theory that involves her Johnny still being among the living. She wrote a book a few years ago about how Johnny is still alive, but he can't come home because of crimes he committed as part of the child sex ring he was abducted into in Mexico. It's sad, really. The story is complete guano on the surface, but the fact that they're dragging Noreen Gosch into this thing makes these DU trolls complete fuckin' demons, IMHO.

Posted by: Russ from Winterset on April 5, 2005 06:46 PM

HOKE: To give an impressive but artificial, false, or deceptive quality to: "hoked up some phony allegations."

Hmmmm.........

Posted by: on April 5, 2005 08:18 PM

"Hoke", "douche" is such a negative word. "dingleberry", "spaz", or even "squeakhole" would be better words for this case.

I don't blame you for not wanting to go to the DU. It's like going to the dentist without novocaine, but they don't even give you a toothbrush & a box of floss when you log off that site.

Posted by: Russ from Winterset on April 5, 2005 08:36 PM

Lesse what the score is now...

Conservative Bloggers:

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott resigns over controversial statements concerning Strom Thurmond

Bush Nat'l Guard memos exposed as fakes, forcing Dan Rather's retirement

Eason Jordan's spurious accusations exposed, prompting resignation

Bogus "Schiavo Memo" exposed, Wash. Post and Howard Kurtz backpedal off a sheer cliff

Ed Morrissey exposes biggest gov't scandal in Canadian history for all the world to see, prompting Canadian judge to trample free speech

Liberal bloggers:

Jeff Gannon

James Guckert

Gannon/Guckert

Guckert/Gannon

'Nuff said.

Posted by: marcus on April 5, 2005 09:52 PM

GANNON IS GOD

Posted by: on April 5, 2005 10:03 PM

DU=2/3 of DUH!!

Posted by: on April 6, 2005 12:00 AM

Please help me, citizen reporters! Tonight I go to town with Assad and a Saudi prince! The Al'Saud family has fuckin' microscopic dicks! Then I have to steal Azerbaijan secrets and train the newest recruit, Barrack Obama, in the secrets of love-making! SAVE ME!

Posted by: JG on April 6, 2005 06:43 PM
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