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March 26, 2005

Big Update on the Dubious "Talking Points"

Good stuff.

I'm particularly interested in this:

Update 3: I've just spoken with news sources who argue ABC News only reported the memo was circulated on the Senate floor, and that ABC News never suggested it was of Senate Republican origins. However the headline for the memo posted online reads, "GOP Talking Points on Terri Schiavo." If they weren't authored by Republicans, why call them GOP Talking Points? Even more was suggested when the story was reported on TV. I found the transcript from Good Morning America on March 19, 2005:

KATE SNOW: (Off Camera) ABC News has obtained some talking points that Senate Republicans were circulating, outlining why Republicans should be involved in this case.

graphics: republican talking points

KATE SNOW: (Voice Over) Here's a couple of the points. The pro-life base will be excited, and it's a tough issue for Democrats, which, which raises the question, is this just pure politics, Mr. DeLay?

TOM DELAY: Kate, I don't know where those talking points come from, and I think they're disgusting.

KATE SNOW: (Off Camera) Senate Republicans.

Not only was Kate Snow asking a Republican representative about an alleged Senate memo, she outright said it originated from "Senate Republicans." This does not appear to be true. The actual source appears to be Democratic aides, but ABC News defends its stories as only reporting Republican "use" on the Senate floor. You be the judge.

Show of hands: How many of you believe that if the parties were reversed here that Kate Snow would state, flat-out, that this absurd forgery came from "Senate Democrats," when there is such doubt about that assertion?

I'm developing a new theory about reporters:

They're not so much biased as they are stupid.


posted by Ace at 04:16 PM
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Stupid and Biased, excellent qualifications for a reporter. The lessons of Memogate have definately not sunk in with these clowns

You know I'm half tempted to have the Republicans call for an investigation of the memo. It'd be nice to start grilling democrat aides and press memebers. Of course the rules being what they are,the Dems would grandstand and be the only things covered by the MSM.

Posted by: Iblis on March 26, 2005 04:23 PM

No, no.

Let's not be hasty here.

They are biased.

It just so happens that they are also stupid.

Posted by: jmflynny on March 26, 2005 04:28 PM

IMHO, any career that depends on looks will automatically attract the geniuses among us ... especially tv, they have to still look good when the audience mutes the tv for a moment or two of sanity ...

Posted by: psflanagan on March 26, 2005 05:59 PM

Ace, I'm with you. I think they are mostly stupid. I have this picture of them receiveing the 'memo' and getting so excited that they forget everything they ever learned in journalism school. Like 'Memo, you are so f'n hot! I want to lick your margins!' kinda excited!

Posted by: BrewFan on March 26, 2005 06:15 PM

How about so stupid that they don't know they are biased?

Posted by: Chuck on March 26, 2005 06:43 PM

How about so stupid that they don't know they are biased?

Posted by: Chuck on March 26, 2005 06:44 PM


How about so stupid that they don't know they are biased?

Posted by: Chuck on March 26, 2005 06:44 PM

Chuck, baby:

Drop and give me fifty. NOW!

Posted by: Lipstick Dynamite on March 26, 2005 07:50 PM

A big ABC snowjob to be sure. Why do the biased hacks running the show at ABC continue to insist that we did not hear what was so clearly said? Are they calling me stupid? Fightin' words baby.

Lipstick: I did Chuck's 50 - and I liked it! May I do 50 more?

Posted by: Philip on March 26, 2005 08:38 PM

Phil,

You're my kind of man.

Do another 50 saying: "Kate Snow is my bitch" while you do them.

Then, at ease.

Posted by: Lipstick Dynamite on March 26, 2005 09:26 PM

As the Terri Schiavo tragedy continues, we've learned that most Americans believe that these complex, deeply private end-of-life decisions should be made by families, not the government.

What we've also learned that is that one of the Americans who apparently feels that way is none other than Tom Delay. The Los Angeles Times reports that in 1988, Mr. Delay's own family chose to end life support for their 65 year old father, severely injured in a tragic accident:

"There was no point to even really talking about it," Maxine DeLay, the congressman's 81-year-old mother, recalled in an interview last week. "There was no way he (Charles) wanted to live like that. Tom knew, we all knew, his father wouldn't have wanted to live that way."

Doctors advised that he would "basically be a vegetable," said the congressman's aunt, JoAnne DeLay.

When the man's kidneys failed, the DeLay family decided against connecting him to a dialysis machine. "Extraordinary measures to prolong life were not initiated," said his medical report, citing "agreement with the family's wishes." His bedside chart carried the instruction: "Do Not Resuscitate."

On Dec. 14, 1988, the senior DeLay "expired with his family in attendance."

(Source: LA Times, 3/26/05)

In a further irony for the tort reform crusader Delay, his family filed a product liability lawsuit and later received a $250,000 settlement.

In 1988 and beyond, the Delay family suffered a terrible tragedy, one which should elicit only our sympathy, not our judgment. Surely all Americans can respect their pain, their preferences - and their privacy.

Posted by: Loretta on March 26, 2005 10:46 PM

If Loretta had managed to compare apples to apples, she might have managed to make a point about **hypocrisy.**

But alas, no.

Cordially...

Posted by: Rick on March 27, 2005 09:34 AM

"We never said it was the Republicans; we said it was the GOP! Ha!" The way they're actually defending themselves doesn't appear to be much better than that.

Posted by: Siaynoq on March 27, 2005 02:48 PM

1.) Senator Lautenberg (D-NJ) wrote a letter to Frist, asking Frist to investigate the memo's source. An unsigned memo on the Senate floor violates Senate rules. According to In the Agora website, First stood by his statement condemninig the memo but did not start an investigation.

Write to Frist and ask he start the investigation. That is, unless he has something to hide.

2.) 1 member of Powerline now thinks the GOP may have written the memo.

Posted by: Bonddad on March 27, 2005 06:42 PM

I just re-checked Power Line and can't find any of them thinking that the GOP wrote that memo.

The most I saw was one of them said that IF it was a Republican staffer, they ought to be fired for being stupid. And the context of that was a post that they were exploring and commenting on every possibility, unlikely or not.

Did I miss something?

Posted by: Lipstick Dynamite on March 27, 2005 09:29 PM

I'm asking myself: How can it be that I've never ran through your site before? It's a great one! Soft voice over the net: http://www.pardonmyenglish.com/archives/2005/09/the_state_of_bi.html , through others who went there

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